Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1047 Spoilers Discussion

[Thabeast]

Why would Zoro kill Kaido if he fully loses?

These guys think Zoro will just execute Kaido after he's down
Well they starting to believe in ZKK in some form at least, that's a progress

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

That’s the thing big mom relied on her homies, while Kaido relied on personal power.

However, let’s look at the other side of the table, the WG seemingly chose to rely on Technology and Powerful Devil Fruits as their main form of power.

Haki is fine, but it’s not the ultimate weapon. We got proof of that earlier with Robin and franky both beating haki users in combat

Thats right.
But how did roger fight against WB only with haki .
Its hard to imagine for me.
Lets take WB for example there is literally no one at marineford war without a devilfruit that could fight seriously whitebeard except maybegarp if he didn't sit the whole time.

 

[IIskandar1997]

The manga tells us King's durability and defense is beyond Kaido.

King clashed direct with Zoro's ultra tiger, stronger attack than dragon twister, with his body and sustained no damage to his wing or head.

King took a Death Liong Song to face, Zoro's go to attack when dealing with characters or objects hard to damage or cut, and King sustained no damage.

Manga facts supports King has a greater durability and defense than Kaido.

 

[Ballel]

Just finished my lil sketch if it's still viable?

If u go back to my post (not what u quoted ) then there's a viable link there, I updated it. But seems like no one wants to join anyways

 

[Krusher1357]

If u go back to my post (not.what u quoted ) then there's a viable link there, I updated it. But seems like no one.wants to.join.anyways

Damn :/

 

[The White Crane]

Admirals aren’t getting replaced by Robots. Mihawk is a mere Warlord for a reason

Still salty that G5 is afraid of slashes, huh?

 

[comrade]

I mean, people might misrepresent Kaido's statement here. Kaido said that "abilities" (Devil Fruits) are not what is essential for conquering the world, but Haki is, which I think was common knowledge for a long time. Chinjao said long time ago, that the battle for the throne is decided by those with the color of the supreme king. Doesn't mean that someone with crazy Haki won't gain an advantage if he consumes and awakens the Azure Dragon Fruit. People supplement whatever fighting style they have with Haki. Some fighting styles depend more on Haki, some less. As for Roger, who was a swordsman, his fighting style was heavily dependent on Haki, which amplifies his swordsmanship. Inb4 we will see new versions of Haoshoku that work entirely independent of one's fighting style (e.g. creating structures out of haoshoku, weaponizing haoshoku lightning or even dominate the opponents will or DF to a great extend).

 

[Ballel]

Damn :/

Maybe it's too late.
Should have made it around 8 😅

 

[Finalbeta]

My friend Beta

How have you been man? :cheers:

 

[Krusher1357]

Maybe it's too late.
Should have made it around 8 😅

There's always next time

 

[CbShadow]

And the manga changed his durability. Just like it changed Luffy's DF to an mythical Zoan type.

What happened back then is irrelevant now.

 

[Finalbeta]

Still salty that G5 is afraid of slashes, huh?

Ascribing Mihawk as mere warlord is unfair given Teach was one and regardless Mihawk accepted that because he was ultimately just bored

 

[Ballel]

There's always next time

I like this game

 

[Krusher1357]

I like this game

Hopefully I'm actually free next time. Skribbl is fun asf

 

[nik87]

These guys think Zoro will just execute Kaido after he's down
Well they starting to believe in ZKK in some form at least, that's a progress

The first step towards ZKK is the hardest.
Once they start believing it's possible, then they can level up to how it will be done.

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

Admirals aren’t getting replaced by Robots. Mihawk is a mere Warlord for a reason

There is a diffrence between yonko and not world anymore for a reason
You can't strip a yonko title because the WG feels like it they were chosen by the people not an organisation thats corupt from its core

 

[Gears Kaios]

 

[CbShadow]

No that is your inference, ignoring King is using stamina to put himself in that temporary state and that Zoro never fought a non distracted serious Kaido 1vs1.

No, you're wrong. I provided a scen showing non-flame mode King take Zoro's ultra tiger with no damage. With or without it he's still took an attack with no damage.

Who cares if his flame increases his durability and defense. Kaido is as durable as he is because of his DF.

 

[Rmstorm]

I mean, people might misrepresent Kaido's statement here. Kaido said that "abilities" (Devil Fruits) are not what is essential for conquering the world, but Haki is, which I think was common knowledge for a long time. Chinjao said long time ago, that the battle for the throne is decided by those with the color of the supreme king. Doesn't mean that someone with crazy Haki won't gain an advantage if he consumes and awakens the Azure Dragon Fruit. People supplement whatever fighting style they have with Haki. Some fighting styles depend more on Haki, some less. As for Roger, who was a swordsman, his fighting style was heavily dependent on Haki, which amplifies his swordsmanship. Inb4 we will see new versions of Haoshoku that work entirely independent of one's fighting style (e.g. creating structures out of haoshoku, weaponizing haoshoku lightning or even dominate the opponents will or DF to a great extend).

Which is why Oda stated Luffy was a CoC Specialist.

 

[Rottkins]

Kaido copeing
But for real why do we know many top tiers without a fruit and going strong ?
Shanks,Rayleigh,Roger,Garp.
Luffy without his fruit on his first fight on wano against Kaido would gave us a dead Luffy .
Why do this guys come this far without a devilfruit i think there is something else to haki we did not get jet

Mihawk and Vista I would add to it but I'm not sure is Vista is a user or not :zorothink: