Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1048 Spoilers Discussion

Will ZKK happen?

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Gorosei Informer

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AverageNamiEnjoyer said:
Want Oda to start focusing on her now.
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Tbh I've felt WCI, Wano and Elbaf could all have been important arcs for Nami for various reasons, I've also suspected she might be like Dorothy from Wizard of Oz. There's a reason he's keeping her full name and parentage and lineage/full backstory or history a secret. Nami is going to be extremely important in future including finding Laugh Tale.

I like the idea of her, Robin and Jinbei all being crucial to find it in their own ways and Zoro's sense of direction may end up working in their own favour ironically too lmfao.
 
OnePiss

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Superior to you said:
He can either fix it by killing many characters which is opposite to oda, making kaido win and luffy truly loose unlike every other arc. And many other things which i can't type. It will make the arc much better and unpredictable. It would be fun to read if it goes opposite. But no so many people think it will end like with Doffy punch and that's it im 98% sure kaido is not getting defeated from this luffy punch.
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How can he fix it when the rest of the arc is still going to be filled with padding and fake outs just like how it has been now.

He wants the Scabbards to die but no one gives a fuck if they die anymore because of many times they’ve been killed in fake outs.

So many people believe this cause they fucking hate Wano. That’s it
 
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AverageNamiEnjoyer

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OnePiss said:
We have to wait for Nami focus only in final arcs

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She have second most panels in the series by a large margin yet she just gets side quests whilst she waits for endgame arc

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Waiting for Kaido to be defeated. There is serious lack of Nami Screentime. At this point I will even take Nami crying scene but give us something.
 
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Ghostly Reflections said:
Tbh I've felt WCI, Wano and Elbaf could all have been important arcs for Nami for various reasons, I've also suspected she might be like Dorothy from Wizard of Oz. There's a reason he's keeping her full name and parentage and lineage/full backstory or history a secret. Nami is going to be extremely important in future including finding Laugh Tale.

I like the idea of her, Robin and Jinbei all being crucial to find it in their own ways and Zoro's sense of direction may end up working in their own favour ironically too lmfao.
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I feel like Jinbei is gonna be crucial to the endgame of the series as well. I think this fisherman stuff is gonna be a lot more important then people think
 
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Twin Milf said:
Hint?
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I recommend reading @KiriNigiri's "Zoro's Second Confrontation With Kaido". It makes the case that Zoro has unfinished business with Kaido at much greater length.

I do not intend to rehash anything that was already covered in the above post, so I'll focus exclusively on the other reasons to believe that Zoro might yet slay Kaido.


The Necessity of Kaido's Death
I'd like to briefly recap the evidence in favour of Kaido's death (and why it's likely by beheading). If you've not read it yet, I recommend reading @Garp the Fist's "The Grand Kaido and Wano Death Compilation. It makes this argument at a much greater length.

Scabbards
The Scabbards expressed their desire to "take Kaido's head":


They stressed the need to "sever his windpipe":


They reiterated that the battle with Kaido is not over until he has been slain:

Oden
Oden himself has spoken of the need to kill Kaido.

He said that he came to cut off Kaido's head in his sleep:


He reiterated that he intends to behead Kaido:


Yamato
Yamato consented to Kaido's death:

Ace
Yamato said that Ace came to kill Kaido:


Ace himself stated that he's here to take Kaido's head:

Kaido
Finally, Kaido himself has repeatedly expressed his desire for (a glorious) death.

His introduction chapter is titled "Suicide":

He's searching for a place to die:


His hobby is suicide, and he laments that he survived his latest attempt:




He stated that because the Scabbards remind him of Oden, he could have let them kill him:


He believes that "death is what completes a person":

Conclusions
The necessity — you could even say the inevitability — of Kaido's death has been mentioned by at least five separate (groups of) characters:
  1. The Nine Scabbards
  2. Oden
  3. Yamato
  4. Ace
  5. Kaido himself
And even the Narrator!

If there's any character in One Piece that is destined for death, then it is without a doubt Hundred Beasts Kaido.


Zoro the Dragon Slayer
Now that I've covered why Kaido will die, I'd like to look at the evidence in favour of Zoro being the one to perform the deed. As I mentioned earlier, I'm not going to repeat anything that was covered in @KiriNigiri's "Zoro's Second Confrontation With Kaido" so please read it if you haven't already.

Character Statements
Yasuie
Yasuie's words at his execution have still not yet been vindicated:


This is pretty suggestive of Zoro being the one to take Kaido's head. This is what is normally called foreshadowing.

Supplementary Canon Material
One Piece Website
The official One Piece website said that Zoro's blade might save Wano:

One Piece Magazines
One Piece Magazine Volume 5 said that Zoro might slay an Eastern Dragon:


In case there was any ambiguity about the Dragon they were referring to, they described Eastern Dragons with a picture of Kaido:


One Piece Magazine Volume 6 said that the Second Ryuma might have already been born:


It goes without saying, that Ryuma's most iconic legend is slaying a Dragon over the Flower Capital:

Shounen Jump Covers
The Shounen Jump cover for Issue 47 had the caption: "two pirates kill the evil spirit" with a picture of Zoro and Luffy crossing swords in front of Kaido:

One Piece Anime
The One Piece Anime Eye Catcher for Episode 973 featured Zoro slaying the Punk Hazard Dragon:

The Anime also spoiled that Kyoshiro is Denjiro.

Shimizu from Toei commented that the ending of Wano will be "surprising":
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1196070795950190592

Trivia
One Piece Treasure Cruise described Zoro and Luffy as the saviours of Wano:

Interlude
Unless Oda has been consistently lying through his characters and supplementary canon material, he has set up Zoro to cut down Kaido and become a "saviour" to the people of Wano. Nothing Zoro has accomplished so far (blocking Hakai, scarring Kaido), qualify him for the title of a saviour. Especially when none of the Wano inhabitants witnessed his feats. If Zoro is to be recognised by the people of Wanokuni as a saviour — if he's to be acknowledged as the Second Ryuma — then he needs to replicate Ryuma's legend and deliver the country from its darkest hour.

Narrative
Leaving aside Yasuie's words and the supplementary material, Zoro seems to have been set up for something monumental/important in this arc. Even if he's not going to be recognised as the Second Ryuma, he needs to do something monumental that would cause the people of Wanokuni to acknowledge him.
  • He promised that he would round up the Samurai, but failed to do so.
  • He was scorned as a Grave Robber that stole Shusui and caused misfortune to befall the country.
    • He's requested to be taken to Ryuma's grave after the end of the battle.
  • The Scabbards (e.g. Kawamatsu) did not consider him to be someone worthy of receiving Enma.
Zoro needs to be recognised by the people of Wano. This requires him to accomplish something that they witness. As of now, Zoro hasn't had any such accomplishment.


Conclusions
Recent chapters have tempered my faith in ZKK, and I now think it's much less likely than I did a month ago. That said, I am not yet willing to write it off. Leaving aside whether Oda follows through with killing Kaido off, I still think it's more likely than not that Zoro will get his dragon-slaying moment where he cuts him down.



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Ghostly Reflections said:
Tbh I've felt WCI, Wano and Elbaf could all have been important arcs for Nami for various reasons, I've also suspected she might be like Dorothy from Wizard of Oz. There's a reason he's keeping her full name and parentage and lineage/full backstory or history a secret. Nami is going to be extremely important in future including finding Laugh Tale.

I like the idea of her, Robin and Jinbei all being crucial to find it in their own ways and Zoro's sense of direction may end up working in their own favour ironically too lmfao.
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She got very little Screentime in Dressrosa than huge focus in Zou and Whole Cake. I expect she will play important part in next arc.
 
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