Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1049 Spoilers Discussion

[Fleet_AdmiralKoby]

If it said End of Act 3 in the chapter id be inclined to think Luffy defeated kaido
but Kaido still hasn't used his Final Wisdom King Attack nor has Kinemon and Zoro are awake to see Luffy Victory
not to mention Ending the battle on 1049 Instead of 1050 kinda sus

Imo Kaido gets Back up after his Flashback and Awakens and Packs Luffy
Act3 ends with luffy defeat being the Tragedy

 

[Peenix]

Featwise comparison between Kaido and Big Mom

- Kaido fought the 9 scabbards, 5 SN(including Kid and Law) who were more focused on Kaido, a stronger Luffy than the one who was fighting with the other SN, Yamato, an even stronger Luffy with mastered Adcoc and was still fighting ready

- Big Mom attacked 5 SN who were more focused on Kaido and ultimately lost to Kid and Law(with bomb plot) and the only difference between rooftop Kid and Law and current Kid and Law being their awakening

That was until Big Mom was defeated

Then his opponent(Luffy) got even stronger, awakening his fruit

While Kaido got even more feats:
- Powered states in drunk mode
- More adcoc control
- Future sight
- Island scale power and lethality in his dragon-magma state

Featwise Big Mom struggles to push Kaido to mid diff

Here's the thing about arguing with feats: fans put way more thought into this kind of thing than the author does
If the story suggests that they're about equal, than it is what it is

 

[JoNdule]

His fighting ability >>> hers

She counter his fire and powers easily
Kaido is easily countered by BM.
Useless fire against someone who can make homies form anything.

Once again
Her CoC won't be = kaido if kaido mid diffs her
Stop your blind hates

Shanks , BM, sickbeard, Roger, primebeard , Luffy are all on same level
Nobody mid diffs the other

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Tbf, Big Mom was still kicking after an awakened attack straight to the chest by law who has very powerful abilities followed by an electromagnetic cannon by Kid. Law's gamma knife almost killed Doffy but his awakened attacks did nothing to big mom. Oda didnt fumble her durability but her AP is mediocre compared to Kaido and she looked like a damage sponge

To me Big Mom never learned to fight properly (maybe because she a natural born monster), she has the raw power but don't use correctly. Now idk if Oda did it on purpose or that just bad writing from him.

 

[Shisui]

Big Mom vs Kaido is an extreme diff. No top tier is mid diffing another top tier

 

[Jailer]

BB getting the Gura Gura always seemed pointless since it'd be incapable of harming Luffy's rubber body,

He can do that with haki gura punches which bypasses his rubber ability and as a bonus throw in his yami power.

 

[Peenix]

Have you missed everything what Kaido went thru and still kicking while Big Mom dropped down to Law?

No?
Everything about them forming an alliance in the first place suggests they're on par with one another

 

[Seth]

No?
Everything about them forming an alliance in the first place suggests they're on par with one another

 

[Franosuke]

People be blinder than Fujitora if they can't see the blatantly obvious and even right in our faces parallels and symbolism set up by Oda deliberately. Plus he fucking LOVES Zoro so its guaranteed anyway.

Man it's just like...these guys are already dead set on even denying the possibility, so no matter what you throw in their faces, they'll find a way to dismiss it

First it's "Zoro can't undermine Luffy," then when you explain how ZKK can happen without undermining Luffy, it's "that's lame"

They ask for hints, then when you provide hints, it's "those aren't hints." But even if it was explicitly stated that Zoro would kill Kaido, they wouldn't believe it anyway lmao

 

[Peenix]

He can do that with haki gura punches which bypasses his rubber ability and as a bonus throw in his yami power.

He has a rubber body bro
Using the Gura Gura on him isn't gonna do shit, even with haki

 

[Seth]

She lost to Law, Kid and nukes

Not saying Kaido aint beating her but mid diff is way too low

He indeed beats her in a Mid diff. She is so fucking lackluster as a "Yonko level" character.

 

[Peenix]

They wouldn't be forming an alliance if Kaido could mid diff her
They fought for three days. The actual story suggests they're relatively equal

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I mean I agree Big Mom was clearly done dirty, but the coping and the mental gymnastics is just too good.

 

[hayze moya]

 

[Jailer]

He has a rubber body bro
Using the Gura Gura on him isn't gonna do shit, even with haki

How could WB's gura punches harm Akainu's magma body then?

Imbue them with haki and has yami as a bonus, more than enough means. And especially if he awakens both df's.

 

[Seth]

They wouldn't be forming an alliance if Kaido could mid diff her
They fought for three days. The actual story suggests they're relatively equal

The portrayal and feats show otherwise.

She was irrelevant in this raid. If not for Kid or Law she would be reduced to O-Lin plot again.

Nothing suggests they are equal. Kaido doesn't even see her on the pedestal he has Oden, Shanks and etc.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I've brought this up before, but the problem with BM and Kaido is Luffy lmao

Anytime you are Luffy villain, your status is massively elevated as a character and fighter. In basically every single case.

 

[MonsterKaido]

who?

Monet

 

[Paperchampion23]

He has a rubber body bro
Using the Gura Gura on him isn't gonna do shit, even with haki

Darkness fruit cancels out your ability btw.

 

[HAJI]

Featwise comparison between Kaido and Big Mom

- Kaido fought the 9 scabbards, 5 SN(including Kid and Law) who were more focused on Kaido, a stronger Luffy than the one who was fighting with the other SN, Yamato, an even stronger Luffy with mastered Adcoc and was still fighting ready

- Big Mom attacked 5 SN who were more focused on Kaido and ultimately lost to Kid and Law(with bomb plot) and the only difference between rooftop Kid and Law and current Kid and Law being their awakening

That was until Big Mom was defeated

Then his opponent(Luffy) got even stronger, awakening his fruit

While Kaido got even more feats:
- Powered states in drunk mode
- More adcoc control
- Future sight
- Island scale power and lethality in his dragon-magma state

Featwise Big Mom struggles to push Kaido to mid diff