Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[Blazing Lion]

OMG, first the cope from Sanji fans who refused to accept the new bounties even going as far as to say that there was a mistake by the provider and they messed up the order or waiting for confirmation. And now the Shanks/Luffy fans who are trying to spin this Mihawk hype/portrayal into some sort of yeah Mihawk has this but Shanks is stronger with the most ridiculous excuses.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

True. Wonder if that's how we'll pay off the foreshadowing of Zoro cutting diamond. Shiryu gives his sword the Kira Kira no Mi

Oda really wasted the Shilliew killing jozu and take his DF theory


It's far better than current Jozu who is removed from existence

 

[MarineHQ]

Kind of like the theory that Blackbeard actually ate some type of Mythical Zoan not yet revealed before he got on Whitebeard ship. Would explain the weird body comments and him being unable to sleep.

I also tend to think this and that BB ain't getting another Devil fruit since he already has 3

 

[Shiroyru]

I also tend to think this and that BB ain't getting another Devil fruit since he already has 3

WBPs never noticed he can’t swim?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Oda really wasted the Shilliew killing jozu and take his DF theory


It's far better than current Jozu who is removed from existence

I never understood that theory. Zoro himself said there was no point to cutting diamond

 

[comrade]

The difference is Shanks is restricted to putting Haki in his sword in a sword duel and is not restricted to only putting Haki in his sword in a pirate duel..

Where else would he put that Haki? And since when is a swordsman restricted to putting Haki into his blade? There is no rule banning Shanks from shooting Haki beams.

 

[Swallalala]

If I was that fussed about that I'd not have come back. Wanos end of itself was ass and I dropped one piece faster than your parents dropped you off at the orphanage when you were born.

Wanos end was only ass because You left the forum

Why the marines didn't say Shanks who surpasses Mihaws when they shown shanks bounty
@Shanks @Red Admiral

Because Shanks doesn’t need Mihawk to get hype.

Unlike Fraudhawk who lives off Shanks' hype lmao

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

The Revolutionary Army on Kamabakka had a white snail to block interception attempts. Why did Oda introduce such a thing if he can't handle it?

Because The RA just let them being tapped purposely

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

OMG, first the cope from Sanji fans who refused to accept the new bounties even going as far as to say that there was a mistake by the provider and they messed up the order or waiting for confirmation. And now the Shanks/Luffy fans who are trying to spin this Mihawk hype/portrayal into some sort of yeah Mihawk has this but Shanks is stronger with the most ridiculous excuses.

It's become a Worstgen speciality of sorts

 

[MarineHQ]

WBPs never noticed he can’t swim?

You think Oda would worry about something like that ?

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

I never understood that theory. Zoro himself said there was no point to cutting diamond

Zoro clearly mean diamond is an expensive thing and cutting it would be such a waste

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

Shanks haki > Mihawk haki

 

[Shanal]

Unlike Fraudhawk who lives off Shanks' hype lmao

Shanks' biggest flex is that he's rivals with the guy who has only 3.6b bounty despite not even being a captain of anything, all while the crew he's part of is significantly worse than RHP.

Literally less of a bounty gap between them than than Roger/WB, and WB was Emperor of his own empire :cheers:

 

[Jackteo]

Because The RA just let them being tapped purposely

Why?

 

[dirtyLarry]

I mean speak for yourself. There are still plenty of One Piece youtubers who don't do that., even if they could

And look at their viewership numbers - only a small fraction of that of Ohara, GrandLineReview etc.

You miss one point - big youtubers like that earn their money with that.

Views = Money (directly from youtube and also from better sponsorships)

Again: If you want to blame someone, blame the fandom. Those are the guys that - for whatever reason - love watching dumb hype/clickbait videos. Those are the ones that dictate what youtubers who want to be successful do.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

 

[MarineHQ]

Because The RA just let them being tapped purposely

That's kind of stupid though especially for someone like Dragon

 

[BleakAsh]

Gold

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Why?

A challenge to Marines and if they can do anything about it

 

[Geo]

OnePiece that's the most reliable but it depends how you wanna interpret what marines stated.. if you wanna take that as a solely skill ie; superiority in swordsmanship .. which can mean either that Shanks doesn't utilize anything else but his sword in combat not even kicks or guns.. then thats plain superiority to Shanks then its baseless given the factual discrepancies and the drought in that decade to really conclusively say that Mihawk is still superior let alone now over 10 years later where Shanks is completely different and has monumental defeats under his belt... its just a disconnect of realities of 2 different times

Marines are a flawed organization and they contradict in story realities and we see them do so as well so there is no point in taking anything ambiguous from them as a factual instance of realty

You are talking in circles.
It is literally stated by the author that Mihawk is the world strongest swordsman so how is it baseless that he is superior to Shanks

Bounties and informations derives from infamy is just face value information.. but realistic..

Mihawk vs Shanks isn't that obvious or straightforward

Yeah you can keep that headcanon. Mihawk's infamy is from Oda.

It is obvious and straightforward as stated in the manga

thats your prerogative to take things literally.. i don't or many don't here as well

And like I said, it is irrelevant if you do or don't. It is the author's words.

We all know why some of you don't, and it is not because there's something valid to your claims.

ironic where the burden of proof is on you to prove that Marines are not taking old duels and Mihawk's existing status into account + Shank's arm and are using plausible in story instances where Mihawk and Shank's have said to have fought and shanks had shown inferiority in competence



the argument completely changes if you includes hax like haki, kicks, sabotage into account.. then its not only about skill or swordsmanship its about who's superior to whom regardless of skills of swords.. but rather everything taken into consideration.


and we both know we can't prove that coz we don't know how it will go down.. nir do the marines ..

I'm not even saying Shanks is superior I'm just saying the assumptions based dodgy claims ain't a smart way to play this out

You are the one who made the claim without any proof then you ask another person to prove you wrong lol.

The coping has reached delusional levels now. Swordsmanship includes hakj

No you are just crying that your headcanon was contradicted by the manga. There's no assumption that Mihawk is the strongest swordsman...it is fact