Who's the smartest genius (no cheat codes allowed)?


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People are making a big deal about resources but those resources didn't fall on VP lap on their own.

He worked for it


He was arrested by WG. He utilize this to work for them and capitalise their resources whereas Judge escaped

He wasn't born with df. Either he build social network to get his hands on or searched for it

Ohara books - He risked his life to pay visit to O'Hara after the incident. And, when he saw Giants taking the books he didn't give up. He once again took risk to visit to Elbaf knowing well that if WG found even a trace of this he is dead.


If you think this is fraud then most characters are - Sanji born with exo+ Zoro got Enma + Luffy got Nika + many marines got their df through WG (CP9 is classic case)
 
this isn’t about sanji fans don’t try to spin it im going to destroy your argument in 3 points

-the vinsmokes is a 23 year old project seraphim is 2 years max
-Judge still isn’t government funded he has to rule his kingdom and be a scientist he is busy compared to vegapunk
-as far as we know judge has no lunarian dna laying around while vegapunk had king prisoner for years
Is your first point in favour of the Vinsmokes lol? If anything it makes Vegapunk much more impressive since he managed to accomplish so much in such a short amount of time
 
I don't know jack shit about football but I do know both of them are exceptionally good. The notion that anyone can be Messi or Ronaldo just by working hard and being physically more capable is wrong on many levels IMO. I am sure there are other football players who are bigger than these two, work just as hard, and are still not nearly as great as these two.
People need skill along with hard work to become what they become. Most people are missing 'skill' which is IMO, the most important factor.
 
I don't know jack shit about football but I do know both of them are exceptionally good. The notion that anyone can be Messi or Ronaldo just by working hard and being physically more capable is wrong on many levels IMO. I am sure there are other football players who are bigger than these two, work just as hard, and are still not nearly as great as these two.
Definitely that’s why people choose different disciplines in life. It’s a really complicated topic but when it comes down to it, if we exclude people who are unfit and go for simple labor/ academic positions, or athletes who are better in other sports, we are left with the few football players we have. And if you’re gifted and most importantly have the eager and right mindset you will compete at high level.

You’ll always be left with a select few at the top of the food chain. In football you have the likes of Messi & Cristiano, one was just born different even among the elites whereas Cristiano is your average elite but through hard work and motivation he became an elite among elites standing next to Messi.
 
The crazy thing about Seraphim is they are capable to grow up.

Vegapunk could literally become single handendly with these creations one of the three great powers. Adult vetsions of Warlords enhanced by lunarian cells, their fighting style, kizaru's beams and other side enhancements like Jinbei's dive df.
 
Definitely that’s why people choose different disciplines in life. It’s a really complicated topic but when it comes down to it, if we exclude people who are unfit and go for simple labor/ academic positions, or athletes who are better in other sports, we are left with the few football players we have. And if you’re gifted and most importantly have the eager and right mindset you will compete at high level.

You’ll always be left with a select few at the top of the food chain. In football you have the likes of Messi & Cristiano, one was just born different even among the elites whereas Cristiano is your average elite but through hard work and motivation he became an elite among elites standing next to Messi.
The overall point is true but there is no difference between Messi and Ronaldo, both of them worked their ass off to be who they are now:endthis:
 
Is your first point in favour of the Vinsmokes lol? If anything it makes Vegapunk much more impressive since he managed to accomplish so much in such a short amount of time
no. judge isn’t working on any projects since then

it’s not more impressive judge also achieved similar feats of the vinsmokes in 2-3 years period and the seraphim aren’t finished yet so you have no point here
 
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