Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1087 Spoilers Discussion

[Jaguark101]

It's so nice to see agendas flyin left and right again
It's like it never left

Its nice to see the forum back to its usual shenanigans.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I am not

Yes you are. The use of emojis and the lack of substantiating your claims are pretty dead giveaways.

 

[Killerj]

Aokiji can put Kaido to sleep w his boxing skills alone

 

[Ninjashadow0209]

And again Marines Admirals needs a help to defeat someone, and people still thinks they are Top tiers?

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Wait, i lost something, Kuzan is a Swordsman?

No but Shiryu is. You can't take a direct hit against a top tier swordsman and we know that's impossible, no one blocks everything.

 

[Marine Piece]

Yes you are. The use of emojis and the lack of substantiating your claims are pretty dead giveaways.

I am the guy who back his claim the most, what are you on about?

 

[Julius]

I noticed a pattern

When an Admiral is caught off guard, he is a bum

When another top tier unrelated to Admirals is caught off guard, it means he is disadvantage fighting multiple enemies, because he is too strong

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

At the same time this pretty much confirms Kuzan > Shiryu, as he played the role of fodder cleanup while the two top tiers went at it. Not that we needed it but it's there for the special ed.

The game ain't even finished, and you're already asking for medals? At this point, Kuzan>Shiryu, sure. But Shiryu is just getting started and this might be the end of Kuzan's accomplishments.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

And again Marines Admirals needs a help to defeat someone, and people still thinks they are Top tiers?

Garp is going against an entire crew here. A yonko crew mind you.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Linyagi

I mean did I say anything wrong though?

 

[Pot Goblin]

conejo blanco should piss on his grave

 

[MonsterKaido]

Slow down a bit

Current Kuzan matching Old Gapr in haki and physical strength is great but doesn't mean he's above Prime Garp

Prime Garp (top haki + top physical strength ) > pre ts Kuzan >~ Current Kuzan > Old Garp

As redon said , lots of context is missing. Let the raws drop then we can evaluate properly.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I am the guy who back his claim the most, what are you on about?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Even I didn’t think admirals were this durable, with Aramaki and now Kuzan no selling ACOC attacks.

Really puts into perspective how crazy hard WB’s fruit can hit when you’re offguard.

Akainu (and admirals) got unfairly downplayed for something that would seriously hurt any other character in the same situation.
Like people BM or Shanks would just no-sell an enraged WB cheapshotting them with Gura and island splitting punches? Shit would stunt anybody for anyone that isn’t of bad faith.
Fucking Oden the wanked Gary stu got KO by a base club swing to the back of the head. Akainu was not shown to be KO.
WB’s health has no much to do with his AP when all out and enraged (Or by this logic healthy Zoro would have one shotted Kaido since he scarred him with 30 broken bones and struggling just to stand)

 

[OPKnK]

This chapter might prove that Roger wasn't a swordsman, ain't no way Garp had a real 1v1 against someone with a sword.

It possible garp was about 30 to 40 years younger lol.

 

[Tejas]

Aokiji can put Kaido to sleep w his boxing skills alone

Could not even put down Old Garp with Shiryu help

 

[Raiden7]

Sorry but it would be moronic pirates trying to fight fair.

I didn't say anything about it. It wasn't an criticism to Shiryu (I leave the sneak attacks bashing to some other fandom). I'm just bored about this "narrative approach" from Oda.

 

[Dragon777]

And again Marines Admirals needs a help to defeat someone, and people still thinks they are Top tiers?

Yeah, not counting the fact he defeated Garp the Fist in a fistfight lol.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Floyd Mayweather would beat his old ass

Duh. He and the other guy can't block or dodge for some reason.
Hits kind of stale too.

 

[Ninjashadow0209]

No but Shiryu is. You can't take a direct hit against a top tier swordsman and we know that's impossible, no one blocks everything.

Yet, Garp still was able to fighting.