Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1110 Spoilers Discussion

[Albino 👑]

"Needing Sanji to motivate him" is an outrageous statement 😂😂 You're acting like Sanji is one of Zoro's power-ups, like some kinda temporary strength buff lmfaoo.

Zoro didn't "need" Sanji to motivate him. He just needed to get serious.

If we assume that Zoro used KOH vs Lucci (he didn't), then this is what your powerscale would be feat-wise:
Serious Base Zoro > G5 Luffy >> casual KOH Zoro ~ casual base Nitoryu Zoro ~ Awakened Lucci.

Do you see how little sense this makes? You cannot scale characters using low-end feats, otherwise, you end up with foolishness like the above.

G5 Luffy was canonically outperformed by base Zoro vs Lucci. Does that mean that we disregard every other G5 Luffy feat and focus on his low-ends? Of course not. G5 Luffy is obviously stronger than Base Zoro, even if base Zoro has better feats vs the same opponent.

And base Zoro is canonically far stronger than Lucci. If Zoro fights Mihawk and it lasts 10 days until Zoro finally gets serious and one-shots, then of course it would mean that Zoro is capable of low-diffing Mihawk. Because there was absolutely nothing stopping him from ending the fight at any time he wanted.

We're not saying that Zoro vs Lucci was low-diff. Zoro raised the difficulty of the fight by playing around for so long. What we're saying is that Zoro is capable of low-diffing Lucci, as he showed that he can casually dispatch him the second he gets serious.

Luffy is also capable of low-diffing Lucci. He didn't need to use G5, he could've embarrassed Lucci with ACoC and G2/3. But he didn't - he decided to use his most taxing power-up and increased the difficulty of the fight. Oda does certain things for plot, but the powerscale is very obvious.

He wanted to make it so clear that Lucci wasn't a match for base Zoro, that even the one time Lucci got the upper hand, Oda said it was due to a distraction and Lucci still did no damage. Even I'm surprised that he gave Lucci nothing here lmao, he wanted him to be totally outclassed by base Zoro. It's honestly an insane feat of strength, as Lucci is genuinely YC1.

Yes in that very moment he needed sanji to talk shit. If he didn’t Jinbe would have jumped in and brought zoro back
If neither were there Zoro would still be fighting

Zoro was motivated to win the whole time but didn’t he just needed something to push him further. Against apoo it was Kiku’s arm and against Lucci it was Sanji
Him needing that push doesn’t change the fact he was trying to win

No offense but I really don’t care how close you think Luffy and zoro in each form. At the end of the luffy is at least on the same level as mihawk and zoro isn’t. Zoro will one day get at that level him not being there now is fine

"B-But do you really think..." There it is, the usual cope when shit on panel doesn't match the forums and plebbit.

You saw Zoro dodging Lucci's 2 hands attacks and one tap the guy and immediately decided that dodging 3 nameless finger pistols, needing multiple named attacks and leave the fight without winning to faint around the corner is so much better.

At least start bringing up that Luffy is the MC or that he's fighting people that Zoro could also be fighting but isn't because Oda is scared of Zoro becoming too popular, make it a challenge.

Okay
Do you think Lucci won his fight with Luffy?

 

[𝓓𝓡 . 𝕋𝒆ñ𝐦𝐚]

Why? Because black lighting lol?

Luffy vs Kata had black lighting
Luffy vs Ulti had black lighting
Koby's Honesty Impact had black lighting
Kuma's Punch had black lighting

Stop clowning yourself bro.

None of them were thick black lightning

 

[kumae]

Brook was so Good in WCI
I love it when he is solely the MVP of the arc imo
He stole road poneglyph despite being guarded my YC 2 Smoothie
he fight big Mom 1v1 respectfully even got praise from her
He "Sleep" With Big Mom
He is the one who destroy Mother Caramel portrait
Oda did dirty to him on Wano, he should've been the one who defeat atleast Apoo or someone

Just like LOda did with nico robin in wano he'll do it with Brook when the BBP fights happen
Laffite is the most mysterious BBP just like Brook
We haven't seen all his powers just like Brook
And he has all those connection with him
Im super excited for that fight more having in mind he is RHM or LHM and LOda didn't made both so similar to just avoid it

 

[Paperchampion23]

Yeah i fucked up who had the 4 lol. Definitely not in planet order if this is accurate

 

[ConquistadoR]

Why? Because black lighting lol?

Luffy vs Kata had black lighting
Luffy vs Ulti had black lighting
Koby's Honesty Impact had black lighting
Kuma's Punch had black lighting

Stop clowning yourself bro.

It's probably CoC, even though you don't see Lightning streaks off the sword after the attack like this.

 

[сука]

Overrated ???
He pizza diffed an admiral meanwhile your boi was going extreme diff with an insured leopard.
The cope is hilarious.

your mind is going extreme diff with your suicidal thoughs whenever Zoro is on panel

I can smell you and your miserable life through the screen so don't talk about cope lol

 

[Dragon777]

May not a power up, but he’ll need time to figure out the trick to their invulnerability just like the straw hats needed time to figure out Enels Priests Mantra.

Time you don’t get mid buster call

That is totally possible, but it is ultimately on Oda. They can have a stroke of luck or a genial idea or not. Also, the Buster Call is not really threatening to them and the Giant Pirates are already doing something about it.

 

[Peroroncino]

Why? Because black lighting lol?

Luffy vs Kata had black lighting
Luffy vs Ulti had black lighting
Koby's Honesty Impact had black lighting
Kuma's Punch had black lighting

Stop clowning yourself bro.

why do you bother arguing with copers? he won't change his mind, he knows you're right but won't admit it so he can feel better, let it go

 

[GUI VI]

Hype wise absolutely top tier hype. I just am genuinely waiting for them to actually look good fighting a high tier or top tier.

Nasujuro looks the best so far and all he did was one shot pacifistas.

Nasujuro just beyond negg diffed Pacifista and Ju Peter just catched G5 Luffy

Gorosei are just starting!!

 

[HA001]

Yes in that very moment he needed sanji to talk shit. If he didn’t Jinbe would have jumped in and brought zoro back
If neither were there Zoro would still be fighting

Zoro was motivated to win the whole time but didn’t he just needed something to push him further. Against apoo it was Kiku’s arm and against Lucci it was Sanji
Him needing that push doesn’t change the fact he was trying to win

No offense but I really don’t care how close you think Luffy and zoro in each form. At the end of the luffy is at least on the same level as mihawk and zoro isn’t. Zoro will one day get at that level him not being there now is fine

Okay
Do you think Lucci won his fight with Luffy?

Luffy isn't on mihawks level
Shanks isn't on mihawks level

 

[Cross_Marian]

None of them were thick black lightning

So what’s the difference between black lightning and black lightning with green smoke?

 

[SakazOuki]

What level do you have gorosei right now?
For me, they are comparable to admirals

It’s still too early to imagine the Gorosei as individual fighters
From a narrative standpoint it’s clear they work as a group to eradicate any threat to the WG, with Saturn summoning the other elders at the first sight of danger being evidence to that. They’re a group of primordial demons that pop up somewhere and wreak havoc with their hax. Godvalley was likely a victim of the same tactic.

From a powerscaling standpoint, we first need to figure out how their hax works

 

[Paperchampion23]

There is someone who pointed out that Warcury is the 3rd actually
the top 1 is between Ju peter or Venus since we didn't see it very clearly than others

And in that case, its probably 1 for Venus and 2 for Jupiter since we can likely tell who their matchups are in the future lol (if Imu is Luffy's)

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yeah i fucked up who had the 4 lol. Definitely not in planet order if this is accurate

Its the order they sit/stand in the gorosei room

Ju Peter in the far left - 1
Nasujuro to his right - 2
Warcury in the middle - 3
Mars next - 4
Saturn to the far right - 5

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Zoro did use CoC here. But he only used it once and it proves how the one shot was possible if Zoro unleashed only one CoC attack.

 

[Dragon777]

What level do you have gorosei right now?
For me, they are comparable to admirals

YC1+

 

[Aknolagon]

Everyone agrees that the teleporting, demonic skeleton horse dude with clairvoyance and ice powers is a swordsman, right?

We should ask @Konstantis since he gave Nasajuro the WSS title. But shanks isn't because hakiman right ?

 

[GUI VI]

YC1+

Lol no

 

[Garps tekkai]

Except for Ghandi they look like they belong into Luffy's timeskip training on Rusukaina. Dunno how hyped I should be if there are wild creatures around - Sea kings, Mountain god.. - that are likely more dangerous..?
Conceptually they also seem to be intended to be around the same lvl and heavily centered around their DF and it seems like half of them wouldn't even benefit much from being an advCoC user, so it also makes me doubt that Mercury and Venus have it, only ones that could makes great use of it in hybrid.

And finally Zoro got the job done. Was to be expected. Kinda surprised that Lucci's moveset got no exposure at all tho. Atleast he could have given them a page or two, where they exchange some named moves..

 

[HA001]

Nasjuro has a weapon only the king of the pirates world's strongest swordsman and man can at this moment claim to match
The gorosei were always top tiers