ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1123: The Void Fortnight
- Thread starter Hako Sama
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Its hard to believe how Oda shit on his self inert this chapter. He is saying PK has stronger CoC than Shanks when Shanks specializes on CoC. Perhaps Shanks fans will finally start to value his swordskills 
This is Shaka straight up saying the Mother Flame powers the Seraphim, right?
Meaning... the flames the Seraphim/Lunarians have ARE connected to the Mother Flame?
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Can't wait for Sanji vs Kizaru rematch in elbaf or marineford
Oda making lame excuse for Sanji not to fight Kizaru in egghead (Dr. Vegapunk dying wish)
Oda making lame excuse for Sanji not to fight Kizaru in egghead (Dr. Vegapunk dying wish)
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Look at the situation from the Gorosei's perspective. They didn't know what he was gonna say. They assumed its worst-case scenario and took action, which cost them nothing by the way.
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We believe in Blackbeard, Oda's favorite real life pirate and the greatest pirate in the history of mankind. They took down Roger's equal , captured the greatest marine ever - they will crush good guys like Shanks - The bad boys are coming for the world 
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On a serious note, I still believe Oda is a great writer when he puts his heart into it
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On a serious note, I still believe Oda is a great writer when he puts his heart into it
Yonkou Luffy, after facing/humiliating an admiral (who was said to be lethal and stronger than kaidou according to experts), and several Gorosei, in the end he is unharmed, and clowning around:
The same guy who needed an immediate blood transfusion + medical treatment after the fight against Kaidou:
And slept for 7 days:
Yonkou Luffy, after facing/humiliating an admiral (who was said to be lethal and stronger than kaidou according to experts), and several Gorosei, in the end he is unharmed, and clowning around:
The same guy who needed an immediate blood transfusion + medical treatment after the fight against Kaidou:
And slept for 7 days:
Only Lanji and Franky went all out, completely irrelevant.
Barely anything in this arc is comparable to what happened in Wano, a couple of haki bursts, cutting Egghead in half and little more.
Only Lanji and Franky went all out, completely irrelevant.
Only Lanji and Franky went all out, completely irrelevant.
Kaidou is about 50x stronger than Kizaru to say the least.
I would say post-timeskip or even marineford/sabaody was the beginning of the decline, but even then you could just handwave the stupid or badly written stuff because they simply felt like a few dirty pebbles falling into a still mostly clean pond. Since Wano or maybe the second half of WCI (@Buusatan94 once wrote a pretty good breakdown of how Whole Cake went wrong), its like Oda has just been making more and more dumb decisions or creating plotlines that don't lead to anywhere, and it was around Wano when he started adopting the subverting expectations mentality that's killing some western entertainment. He went from throwing dirty pebbles to chucking garbage in the pond.
Was it his involvement with Netflix? Was it heavier mandates from JUMP/Toei? Has he simply grown distant from One Piece because he could no longer make the other manga stories he wanted to make? Or can it all simply be chalked up to the new editors for being Oda fanboys who are too young and unwilling to reign him in when he comes up with dumb ideas?
Was it his involvement with Netflix? Was it heavier mandates from JUMP/Toei? Has he simply grown distant from One Piece because he could no longer make the other manga stories he wanted to make? Or can it all simply be chalked up to the new editors for being Oda fanboys who are too young and unwilling to reign him in when he comes up with dumb ideas?
I would say post-timeskip or even marineford/sabaody was the beginning of the decline, but even then you could just handwave the stupid or badly written stuff because they simply felt like a few dirty pebbles falling into a still mostly clean pond. Since Wano or maybe the second half of WCI (@Buusatan94 once wrote a pretty good breakdown of how Whole Cake went wrong), its like Oda has just been making more and more dumb decisions or creating plotlines that don't lead to anywhere, and it was around Wano when he started adopting the subverting expectations mentality that's killing some western entertainment. He went from throwing dirty pebbles to chucking garbage in the pond.
Was it his involvement with Netflix? Was it heavier mandates from JUMP/Toei? Has he simply grown distant from One Piece because he could no longer make the other manga stories he wanted to make? Or can it all simply be chalked up to the new editors for being Oda fanboys who are too young and unwilling to reign him in when he comes up with dumb ideas?
Was it his involvement with Netflix? Was it heavier mandates from JUMP/Toei? Has he simply grown distant from One Piece because he could no longer make the other manga stories he wanted to make? Or can it all simply be chalked up to the new editors for being Oda fanboys who are too young and unwilling to reign him in when he comes up with dumb ideas?
The most shocking thing would be that he revealed that Joyboy was the first pirate and fought the WG, but even during that part, Vegapunk refuses to paint any side as evil and tries to paint them both as fighting for their own ideals, and the common view of pirates among civilians in the OP world is that they're all evil, so naturally people are probably going to assume Joyboy was the bad one. So you're still right, Vegapunk's message had nothing that actually made the WG look bad, and them doing this over the top arrival just to get nerfed by 800 year old rope haki feels completely pointless.
Most of the message doesn't make the WG look bad and the most nerve wracking thing it achieved was repeating "THE ONE PIECE IS REAL" line but with way less emotional impact for the reader than Whitebeard.
Most of the message doesn't make the WG look bad and the most nerve wracking thing it achieved was repeating "THE ONE PIECE IS REAL" line but with way less emotional impact for the reader than Whitebeard.