Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1124 Spoilers Discussion

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Kizaru didn't went all out. At the very least he has yet to showcase his final strongest attack and yet to be defeated completely like most villains are.

But the mental Nerf thing is so stupid. Also unlikely that luffy will be the one to fight and beat Kizaru again. It will be Zoro/Sanji if Kizaru appears as an antagonist again.
 
Bro mental nerf is turning into another ZKK-level lunacy. Why would Zoro be mentally nerfed against Kizaru or Kizaru be mentally nerfed against Zoro? Mental nerf happens only against a friend, not against an enemy.
I am just clowning

Only one Kizaru was nerfed was against Vegapunk (or not really as he impaled him same spot where Saturn pierced him previously)

He gave up the fight because he was sad after getting pizza diffed but that's about it

Kizaru may have other more powerful attacks but so has Luffy.
 
I am just clowning

Only one Kizaru was nerfed was against Vegapunk (or not really as he impaled him same spot where Saturn pierced him previously)

He gave up the fight because he was sad after getting pizza diffed but that's about it

Kizaru may have other more powerful attacks but so has Luffy.
To be fair, it's the entire scenario.

Kizaru had conflicts about killing vegapunk, and Luffy was the only one in the way at the time.
Everything Kizaru was doing, from fighting Sentomaru to fighting Luffy, was to eventually kill vegapunk.

It's reasonable to argue that he couldn't perform at his best the entire duration, due to his mental state and conflict.
 

ZenZu

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The Luffy vs Kizaru was resolving around who will stop the other from accomplishing his mission(saving / killing Vegapunk). It was not a conventional 1 on 1, and even then Kizaru failed until he received back up with Saturn's arrival

If you have Akainu above Kizaru, so is Kuzan. They were the fleet Admiral candidates, they were the ones with antagonistical dynamic and df powers, they were the ones who stalemated each other for days before Akainu barely winning, they are still the admirals most relevant to the plot right now(the only ones relevant to the quest for the One Piece).

And I'd even argue even Fujitora might end up above Kizaru.
Nah I have Kuzan below Kizaru, both were nerfed from going all out but Kizaru's feats suggest Kuzan isn't keeping up. I need to see awakening from Kuzan moreso than Kizaru.

Like rn there's little to no arguing that Luffy loses to Kizaru, I can't see Luffy losing to the version of Kuzan we witnessed. Kizaru's speed is nuts.

I think G4 vs Kuzan would be super competitive, not so much against Kizaru.
 

ZenZu

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Preach. Every admiral is above Pizzaru
The weakest Admiral beats Luffy while focused elsewhere? :shocked:

I'm tryna give Luffy respect here and say this was a Kizaru exclusive thing, because his speed's just too busted to deal with. Meaning Luffy can actually beat other Admirals, we need to look at Kizaru as 1:1. But you're suggesting clowning G4, and outlasting G5 while unfocused is the mark of the weakest?? :shocked:

We are so cooked Luffybros.
 
What if Fujitora is actually the second strongest after Akainu? Gravity df + top tier swordsmanhip + top 2 CoO in all likehood.

I don't believe that's the case but it could turn out to be.

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