Who did More to capture Garp?


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If Redon's weird translation (who says "Most of me"?) is replaced by TCB wording Kuzan's dialogue as "It took most of us to beat him" or something similar, how would you guys scale current Garp, Akainu and Kuzan in comparison to each other?
 
Flirting:



VS

Harrassment:

Kuzan: "Well it took most of me just to get near..."

Why is a top tier getting shat on for - apparently - trying his best against an old legend but Mihawk gets excused for not showing restrains to Pre TS Luffy who is pretty much a rookie fodder? :milaugh:
It’s crazy that apparently everything mihawk or zoro say that doesn’t help the wank agenda = they’re lying or just dumb

But every other character words are 100% fact
They probably think kaku was telling the truth. After all what does zoro know since he was wrong about enma making him stronger, lunarians being invincible flame on, and about trying to end the fight fast against Lucci

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I see Admiral fans are taking a page out of the Zboy playbook and denying what the words coming out of their idol’s own mouth
What you expect from Coping team @MarineHQ @SakazOuki @Elder Lee Hung @Kurozumi Wiwi ? they will just their headcanons to deny that LMAO , i like how they mention old hag's help for Kaido vs Oden but nah shitryu's sneak didn't happen .

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That was the moment of his defeat you genius. You can't retaliate when you are defeated, so again, where is your proof. It doesn't make sense from the panels nor from a logical standpoint.


It does actually. It's Oda's way of saying that it doesn't have any influence in the perceived PL of both fighters. It was a means to a shorter end, an end with the exact same result.
Kuzan if Shiryu never gave Garp that "grievous wound" (Aokiji's own words):
 
Blackbeard the blackhole and whiryu the void are the strongest devil fruit user. ladmirals can cry all days they cant change what is to come. I also expect their final attack to parallel each other like with king and kaidos magma like flame. Awakened Whiryu will actualy be > Garp unlike kuzan who already peaked yet got beaten by the old version of the marine hero. Whiryu pre awakening almost oneshoted the garp.

CoC less bums for a reason .
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It does actually. It's Oda's way of saying that it doesn't have any influence in the perceived PL of both fighters. It was a means to a shorter end, an end with the exact same result.
Been saying for a whole year
Coby escape couldn't take hours but also an old legend like Garp getting packed quickly in 1 vs 1 would be an awful treament, the stab was merely a plot device to give Garp some excuse.
By only giving Kuzan the credit instead of BBP, with Teach literally saying only Kuzan is able to perform such feat, Oda's intent on the overall fight should be viewed is clear.
 
@ConquistadoR you put your eggs in the wrong basket. This is the guy you think highly of.

He went serious against Yamato in Hybrid and she held it down and then G2/G3 Luffy pushed him into drunken mode and wasn't even dominated in it but chose to go into G4 willingly.

You all were fooled by Kaido taking attacks from 9 guys that could never hurt him. They never had the means for it. Luffy stated even his attacks post rooftop weren't deep enough.

But the Yamato fight was really the worst of all. Old Garp might actually one shot Yamato with blue hole.
 
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