Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1145 Spoilers Discussion

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The number of people who will fight against God Knights increases every second, but you are still waiting for M3's arrival. Gaban, Dorry, Broggy, Jinbe, Brook, Saul, Robin, Nami, Usopp, and now Franky and Ripley are present, and additionally, Bonney may use Nika's power; there are so many possibilities, how can you ignore them?

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Kurozumi Wiwi said:
Maybe "'mid" was the wrong word, his AP is fine for his tier. But it's not enough against top tiers or characters with special durability
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Yeah, I can agree with that.

That's why he isn't a top tier. He has top tier endurance/hp, physical power and combat speed approaching top tier. Has to lack in something lol, that was attack power (relatively).

King has top tier attack power, and physical power approaching top tier. Then he has to choose between either top tier durability or top tier combat speed.

I consider Marco and King to be the gatekeepers at commander level for this reason.
They are close, and have at least two stats in top tier range, but quite not there. (I will refrain on commenting about King further, depending on limitations of flame on mode)

Then there are other strong commander level dudes like Katakuri, Jozu, rooftop Luffy/Zoro. Who had a single stat in top tier range - CQC for Katakuri and rooftop Luffy, raw/physical power and situationally (active) durability for Jozu, armament haki for rooftop Zoro.
 
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RayanOO said:
Crocus found the OP too Seagull also

there is only one PK Roger not Ray not Oden

it’s a moot point



Did he find it ?

no

Roger did, Roger influenced the world and made something impossible possible



And who found the OP, who was labeled PK for it. Who paved the way for the new gens ? Who started the golden era of piracy to find the OP ? Spoiler alert : it’s not Sengoku or Oden



Oda wanted to draw many things and he indeed drew them

But Roger is still Roger

If Oda had kept the same story with Vikings he would have made Roger the Viking King or something like that and Roger would still be the top dog. Just with a different setting. His role would be the same.



All important characters indeed

But less important than Roger, less driving for the plot, and with a weaker narrative



Roger isn’t Minato, Roger is Hashirama

the one who beat Madara, who created the leaf village, and Naruto wanting to become Hokage

And as Roger there isn’t a single ninja in the old gen or mid gen superior to Hashirama. No one.

Only the old legends and new gens surpassed him like Roger will be surpassed by Joyboy and Imu and Luffy etc.
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Dude, finding One Piece is a Collective Effort, can He find it without his Crew?
I told you "Pirate King" is an Epithet given to the Captain, not because finding One Piece is his Feat Alone,
And Pirates are only a Small Part of OP World Inhabitants, becoming Best Pirate Captain is only One Peak Achievement among many,

Defining Pirate King as Peak Greatness (so far) is something We both agree on, but you're the one who don't like the idea of anyone being his Equal for no reason at all,

And you tell me "Roger proved the Impossible Possible?" No He didn't if you don't believe He has Equals, it means He is an Impossible Guy, not an Inspirational Figure who encourages People,

How did you determine that They are less Important than Roger? Because He shared Luffy's Dream & because of Inherited Will?
I told you the guy wasn't even the Most Important Character in his own "Becoming Pirate King" Flashback & you tell me He is Unmatched?

Hashirama was freaking God of Shinobi, in a Verse where 90% of Military Force are Ninjas, and every single one believed Hashirama to be Strongest Ninja in history of all Villages, and He founded Will of Konoha & Village Overall, He is literally like Joy Boy (Who also have Legends way before his time if u haven't realized yet),

What Percentage of People in OP World believe Roger to be Unbeatable?
You think WG & CDs & Royalty affiliated with them believe Roger is Top 1?
You think Vikings or Giants or Samurai or Minks or other Isolated Races & Communities believe Roger is Top 1?
You think Marines believe Roger is Top 1?
You think Pirate Island or Anyone who followed Xebec believe Roger is Top 1?
You think anyone in BM Empire believe Roger was Top 1? (Mont d'Or for example confirmed that He isn't seen like that)
You think anyone who called WB "Father" thinks Roger was Top 1?
You think Rebels think Roger is Top 1?
... etc

And Roger isn't just about being a Warrior, it's also a Story about "Heart", that's what makes Roger stand out,
Just like Hiriluk stood out in Chopper's Side of Story from Rest of Top Doctors, or any of other SHs Stories.
 
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