Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1154 Spoilers Discussion

[nik87]

@Boiroy @nik87 @EmperorKinyagi

Oda knew what he was doing when he picked Shiryu to end the career of the guy who ended Rocks' career.
Supreme Janitor for a reason. People are not ready for a guy stronger than prime Blackbeard.

 

[Paragorn]

The admiral aren't top tier they are between low and mid top tier (yamato-loki level). The real top tier (zoro, luffy, ben, shanks) defeated them high diff at worst

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That would make them above Kuzan then, the C3 were all relative until Sakazuki beat Kuzan

The C3 were relative in Marineford. Sakazuki and Kuzan then fought for 10 days straight pushing their wills and fruits to their limits. Odds are both awakened their fruits in that timespan and Sakazuki just held out a bit longer than Kuzan could.

 

[BestGen]

That's why Mihawk said he doesn't want to be a Yonko, it's like lowering his level for him... Mihawk is the WSS, a superior title.


That's why Mihawk isn't interested in being a Yonko; he's the WSS, a superior title.....................

True, he's a yonko underling

 

[Blackbeard]

Tbh, its fine.

Added spark of life in the dying forum

But I hope we don't get to hear xyz > Xebec after leeching off...lol

Only @Blackbeard has that right

Pisshawk fans already pushing him above thanks to his sword silhouette

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Easy solution. Xebec was simply that strong. He was never a warlord or an emperor. His strength is not tied to these titles, that's why it fits to give him this feat. Oda is clever with these things.

He'll now have us speculating how that particular Rocks that killed an Admiral compares to the current Top Tiers, but to reach your conclusion presupposes that we know how strong "Rookie" Rocks actually was.

The question they don’t want you to ask is why Oda chose to have an Admiral as the standard by which we judge the literal strongest Pirate of all time lmfao. This guy subordinated all Yonko and the two pirate kings ganged up on him to take him down, but let’s hyper focus on the fact that Oda decided that just one Admiral to use as Xebec’s measure of strength. Lol

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

The C3 were relative in Marineford. Sakazuki and Kuzan then fought for 10 days straight pushing their wills and fruits to their limits. Odds are both awakened their fruits in that timespan and Sakazuki just held out a bit longer than Kuzan could.

Seems like they were already awakened before that.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Oda knew what he was doing when he picked Shiryu to end to career of the guy who ended Rocks' career.
Supreme Janitor for a reason. People are not ready for a guy stronger than prime Blackbeard.

There are some fools who still say that Aokiji was above Shiryu, the admiral hunter.

 

[gz89]

So are we going to say Rocks >> Yonko or Admirals < Yonko now? Just curious about the general consensus.

Prime Sanji > Admirals/Yonko is all that matters.

 

[SkySanji]

So are we going to say Rocks >> Yonko or Admirals < Yonko now? Just curious about the general consensus.

Yonko >> Admirals

 

[Reborn]

You know Mihawk > Rocks is factual as he seems to be a sword user

Different eras

 

[Paragorn]

admiral vs top tiers

http://imgur.com/BLHETPt

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The question they don’t want you to ask is why Oda chose to have an Admiral as the standard by which we judge the literal strongest Pirate of all time lmfao. This guy subordinated all Yonko and the two pirate kings ganged up on him to take him down, but let’s hyper focus on the fact that Oda decided that just one Admiral to use as Xebec’s measure of strength. Lol

Because no other strength based title existed.
Yonko - Didn’t exist till post Roger’s death
Warlords - Didn’t exist till post Roger’s death

Top tier on the sea? There were no big named top tiers that were aware of back then outside of Rox.

The admiral title is the only one he could use.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

If any this chapter showed one thing
Oda has no issue feeding an admiral to a character when they deserve it, so we can finally admit yonko Luffy went all out on Egghead and his pathetic performance was due to his lack of strenght and not some imaginary nerf? Rookie Xebec > generic admiral > Yonko Luffy ~ Prime Kaido

 

[MarineHQ]

The question they don’t want you to ask is why Oda chose to have an Admiral as the standard by which we judge the literal strongest Pirate of all time lmfao. This guy subordinated all Yonko and the two pirate kings ganged up on him to take him down, but let’s hyper focus on the fact that Oda decided that just one Admiral to use as Xebec’s measure of strength. Lol

Oda wanted to say hey this guy is very obviously something special, not your average Yoncuck fodder so he gave him an unprecedented feat for the pirate world.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Seems like they were already awakened before that.

I doubt it. I refuse to believe Sakazuki (who gave zero shits about collateral in Marineford) was holding back awakening the whole time.

 

[nik87]

Different eras

DIfferent eras do not prevent Mihawk from being stronger than people from any era.

 

[Nadel]

True, he's a yonko underling

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Different eras

lmao if you think it is going to stop them

 

[Paragorn]

You know Mihawk > Rocks is factual as he seems to be a sword user

You know, every single character which holds a sword is automaticly weaker Mihawk.

 

[gz89]

The question they don’t want you to ask is why Oda chose to have an Admiral as the standard by which we judge the literal strongest Pirate of all time lmfao. This guy subordinated all Yonko and the two pirate kings ganged up on him to take him down, but let’s hyper focus on the fact that Oda decided that just one Admiral to use as Xebec’s measure of strength. Lol

There were no Emperors/Warlords during that era so Oda chose to sacrifice an Admiral to establish that young Rocks was a beast.