Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1154 Spoilers Discussion

[soupongo]

Nah

Vergo gonna be revealed as Imu's son

Haven't you found it suspicious that vergod has a black form, and imu is completely black too...

I don´t see skin color

 

[moreha9685]

Ngl

It's sad as fuck to see yet another character becoming a nepo baby with special lineage.

BB was way more interesting when he was unrelated to Rocks

@Baldwin

Oda really wasn't subtle at all when naming BB's ship.

I still like more the fan theories where either Buggy (same lineage, without the will) or Croc (same plan for a utopia to replace the WG at all costs) are Rocks' son, while BB is someone inspired by Rocks' legacy and who is just as messed up, if not more.

It made sense, too.

Luffy inherits Roger's will, and is chosen by a freedom-god DF.
BB inherits Rocks' will, and is chosen by a chaos-god DF.
No blood needed. And it reinforces both the themes of inherited will and returning cycles of liberation/destruction.

IMU becomes the system/status quo that both Luffy & BB want to topple, albeit with different means and for different reasons.

BTW, If Roger-Shanks-Luffy are variants of JoyBoys, two failing, while the third finally succeeds, who was the middle counterpart in the Rocks-???-BB equation?

 

[SkySanji]

Pulling shit straight from your ass?

Roger was 39 in godvalley

He was in his prime

Roger and Whitebeard factually hit their Prime post-God Valley.

Xebec killed an Admiral long before his Prime before he even became a Pirate, basically, an Admiral was to Xebec what Arlong was to Luffy.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

I don´t see skin color

Get your eyes checked then clown

 

[soupongo]

Oda really wasn't subtle at all when naming BB's ship.

I still like more the fan theories where either Buggy (same lineage, without the will) or Croc (same plan for a utopia to replace the WG at all costs) are Rocks' son, while BB is someone inspired by Rocks' legacy and who is just as messed up, if not more.

It made sense, too.

Luffy inherits Roger's will, and is chosen by a freedom-god DF.
BB inherits Rocks' will, and is chosen by a chaos-god DF.
No blood needed. And it reinforces both the themes of inherited will and returning cycles of liberation/destruction.

IMU becomes the system/status quo that both Luffy & BB want to topple, albeit with different means and for different reasons.

If Roger-Shanks-Luffy are variants of JoyBoys, two failing, while the third finally succeeds, who was the middle counterpart in the Rocks-???-BB equation?

Dragon

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Roger and Whitebeard factually hit their Prime post-God Valley.

Xebec killed an Admiral long before his Prime before he even became a Pirate, basically, an Admiral was to Xebec what Arlong was to Luffy.

fAcTuAlLy

No roger didn't retard

That's some pure headcanon

Oda said wb hit his prime at 38

Guess what age Roger was in godvalley? 39

Why the fuck would Roger not be in his prime in godvalley?

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Xebec killed an Admiral long before his Prime before he even became a Pirate, basically, an Admiral was to Xebec what Arlong was to Luffy.

Once again pulling shit from so far up your own ass lol

You don't know jackshit

You don't know whether rocks was in his prime or not

Stfu with your retarded headcanons

 

[Reborn]

Ngl

It's sad as fuck to see yet another character becoming a nepo baby with special lineage.

BB was way more interesting when he was unrelated to Rocks

@Baldwin

BB top 1 soon, Mr L

 

[park_min young]

Oda went the boring route with Xebec. My theory that Xebec was a Joyboy descendant or the OG protag seems way more interesting than this. He really kept it simple, there are evil D clans and the good ones.

 

[D. Plant]

Good point about Noah, but the way Redon worded it was very interesting. Can't wait for the full summary. Maybe he saw a symbol or a mark that would give us a clue about something? Or did some of the Giants' appearances give him an aha moment? Something about them caught his attention, thats for sure.

That could be the case, I have checked the Galley la logo, it sorta looks similar to a viking ship.

 

[SkySanji]

fAcTuAlLy

No roger didn't retard

That's some pure headcanon

Oda said wb hit his prime at 38

Guess what age Roger was in godvalley? 39

Why the fuck would Roger not be in his prime in godvalley?

People hit their primes at different times, Roger's prime was post-God Valley.

Xebec at his absolute weakest, pre-Pirate, barely in his twenties killed an Admiral, there's no dancing around this, it is Oda taking a shit on the Admiral rank's portrayal.

 

[soupongo]

Oda went the boring route with Xebec. My theory that Xebec was a Joyboy descendant or the OG protag seems way more interesting than this.

If he isn´t, who could be? Either Roger, or Garp.
Xebec is most likely, since Saturn himself mentioned Teach´s special heritage while he never said anything like that about Luffy

 

[MonochromeYoru]

People hit their primes at different times, Roger's prime was post-God Valley.

Xebec at his absolute weakest, pre-Pirate, barely in his twenties killed an Admiral, there's no dancing around this, it is Oda taking a shit on the Admiral rank's portrayal.

None of this shit is factual clown

As I said, you are just speculating. So don't call it fAcTuAl

 

[park_min young]

If he isn´t, who could be? Either Roger, or Garp.
Xebec is most likely, since Saturn himself mentioned Teach´s special heritage while he never said anything like that about Luffy

I guess there’s still hope?

 

[Reborn]

Oda went the boring route with Xebec. My theory that Xebec was a Joyboy descendant or the OG protag seems way more interesting than this. He really kept it simple, there are evil D clans and the good ones.

I feel there is more to this.

Evil D clan and good D clan - makes whole ancient kingdom thing grey and not Black or white

 

[Lifeismeh]

Why hide rocks face all this time just to show it in a Loki's flashback lol

Anyway, kind of boring revelation. Rocks being BB direct father is too on the nose imo

 

[SkySanji]

None of this shit is factual clown

As I said, you are just speculating. So don't call it fAcTuAl

Everything I have said is factual.

An Admiral was no diffed and killed by Xebec before he even began his Pirate career, the lowest of the low.

 

[zzShinichi]

Nobody notices but this just kills Rocks is Buggy's father's theory

 

[Reborn]

If he isn´t, who could be? Either Roger, or Garp.
Xebec is most likely, since Saturn himself mentioned Teach´s special heritage while he never said anything like that about Luffy

If I have to guess then

Elder touched two key aspects
Luffy has special df - Nika

BB has special heritage - ancient kingdom royalty

 

[soupongo]

If I have to guess then

Elder touched two key aspects
Luffy has special df - Nika

BB has special heritage - ancient kingdom royalty

Exactly lol, I think Teach is kind of Vegeta coded if you consider that, his homeland was wiped out and he may feel entitled to be *above* the other D clan members. And having a villain be related to Joyboy is cool. It´s the opposite of the Ace-Roger thing.

It will never be a good look for the ancient kingdom that 20 seemingly unrelated kingdoms united against it, though it will most likely just be wholesome chungus land

 

[Paragorn]

All weaker than Kaidou, including ones so unthreatening that Big Mom doesn't even mind saying where she's going — that's how much fear he imposes.

Purely speculation lol