Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1154 Spoilers Discussion
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You know how Kaido liked to break others will by defeating them and have them join him? He was trying to do it with Kidd and Luffy.
I think he learnt it from Xebec.
BM, WB and Kaido - knowing they are monsters - I don't think they would just submit themselves. They probably were drawn to Xebec hype of killing an admiral and tried to fight him. But it's likely Xebec defeated them and had them submit to him or follow him
I think he learnt it from Xebec.
BM, WB and Kaido - knowing they are monsters - I don't think they would just submit themselves. They probably were drawn to Xebec hype of killing an admiral and tried to fight him. But it's likely Xebec defeated them and had them submit to him or follow him
It's really weird that people just conveniently forget that Oda confirmed that both WB and Roger were already in their prime 36 years ago, aka just two years after God Valley.
There's just not a lotta logic in thinking they both grew massively over these two years. Some growth is expected, but I highly doubt it was all that much.
There's just not a lotta logic in thinking they both grew massively over these two years. Some growth is expected, but I highly doubt it was all that much.
It's really weird that people just conveniently forget that Oda confirmed that both WB and Roger were already in their prime 36 years ago, aka just two years after God Valley.
There's just not a lotta logic in thinking they both grew massively over these two years. Some growth is expected, but I highly doubt it was all that much.
There's just not a lotta logic in thinking they both grew massively over these two years. Some growth is expected, but I highly doubt it was all that much.
No it was not, unless you want to cling to MF where WB himself said he cant be strongest forever. Kaido was strongest individually, he was literally the WSC.
Yeah someone like BM, we have no clue about who were pirates back then and if there were pirates or not. From what has been shown the Emperors have existed as part of the world system. Unless you are suggesting that WG had control of the whole world and then pirates managed to take away the control from them in the New World. We are entering headcanon territory since anything is possible. Ryuma was alive centuries ago and even in his time there were pirates. Joyboy was the first pirate so the pirate legacy stretches to at least back then.
A BM of that time? Yeah for that Oda would have to create another unique monster just for them to be defeated by Rocks.
Xebec is at that level because he was portrayed as such, he was portrayed as Rogers greatest rival with the WSS (or to be) under and a to be WSC under him. Xebec is at that level because he was ranked by Kaido along with Roger/WB/Shanks.
The difference is that Oda has constantly used the Yonkos or monsters like these to show them as top tiers at the expense of Admirals. Oda could have simply stated (which may still happen) that Xebec managed to escape after barely defeating/killing an Admiral and the word hypetool would not be used. Bring me one example of an Admiral looking better against a Yonko at the end of a conflict/confrontation. No whataboutism.
As of now as depicted in the manga it is here is guy named Rocks equal to/same tier/same category as Roger/WB/Shanks/Oden and he killed an Admiral in his younger days before he founded the Rocks pirate group.
Yeah someone like BM, we have no clue about who were pirates back then and if there were pirates or not. From what has been shown the Emperors have existed as part of the world system. Unless you are suggesting that WG had control of the whole world and then pirates managed to take away the control from them in the New World. We are entering headcanon territory since anything is possible. Ryuma was alive centuries ago and even in his time there were pirates. Joyboy was the first pirate so the pirate legacy stretches to at least back then.
A BM of that time? Yeah for that Oda would have to create another unique monster just for them to be defeated by Rocks.
Xebec is at that level because he was portrayed as such, he was portrayed as Rogers greatest rival with the WSS (or to be) under and a to be WSC under him. Xebec is at that level because he was ranked by Kaido along with Roger/WB/Shanks.
The difference is that Oda has constantly used the Yonkos or monsters like these to show them as top tiers at the expense of Admirals. Oda could have simply stated (which may still happen) that Xebec managed to escape after barely defeating/killing an Admiral and the word hypetool would not be used. Bring me one example of an Admiral looking better against a Yonko at the end of a conflict/confrontation. No whataboutism.
As of now as depicted in the manga it is here is guy named Rocks equal to/same tier/same category as Roger/WB/Shanks/Oden and he killed an Admiral in his younger days before he founded the Rocks pirate group.
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