Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread
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I think that's a unique circumstance that Kuzan can freeze a large body of water so fast. It wouldn't translate into him or his admiral peers being able to destroy continents instantly. That's even beyond the scope of the Gura fruit.
Though the top tier logias are weapons of mass destruction in any case.
Though the top tier logias are weapons of mass destruction in any case.
Yep, if you stick to manga facts instead of riding hype waves, you will always do a lot better in this game.
Oda has selected only 3 characters in his 1100+ chapters long story to wield the titles of World's Strongest.
He could have chosen the Pirate King or his greatest rival Rocks or Marine Hero or even Imu to wield those titles.
He chose not to give those titles to them. Instead, he picked Whitebeard, Kaido and Mihawk.
Whoever thinks anyone from the old generation is capable of beating Kaido is failing at reading comprehension.
“Not a single wound of retreat on his back” 
And WBs back was clean at time of his death
You guys are willfully choosing to ignore context around that phrase
This situation is not that different from SNs running from Apoo (there is difference but not that much), no sane person is putting Apoo above Luffy, Zoro, Kid.
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Yes, but this doesn’t really bring anything new to the table. We already know that Garp was for sure stronger than BM at the time, who was almost a decade younger. It’s expected for someone like Garp to no-sell an elemental attack with haki, and it even looks like he used advanced Conqueror’s btw. Old man and geriatric Garp was doing the same, if not worse, to Kuzan, so it’s hard to imagine a younger Big Mom posing much of a threat to prime Garp with her projectiles.
If Whitebeard hadn’t run away with BM, gotten mocked by Garp, and then given an excuse by Oda, then things would look really bad for Big Mom but that’s not the case. In fact, her portrayal comes off as second to Whitebeard’s, even though she’s younger than Shiki. Whitebeard and BM has been paired up throughout the chapter. We’ll have to wait for the translations, but in the Dragon scene, it was her and Whitebeard doing the bickering about some shit. Both had their little brothers in the crew, both also dismissed wasting time on Garp, and that directly contrasted with Kaido, who was portrayed as the weaker and more naive one.
@Ven437, think it’d be clear in the upcoming chapters that Whitebeard and BM could have been the top dogs. Shiki’s not getting much attention as I initially expected. At most, I can see him clashing briefly with Ray. If he doesn’t show acoc then it’s over for him ngl.
If Whitebeard hadn’t run away with BM, gotten mocked by Garp, and then given an excuse by Oda, then things would look really bad for Big Mom but that’s not the case. In fact, her portrayal comes off as second to Whitebeard’s, even though she’s younger than Shiki. Whitebeard and BM has been paired up throughout the chapter. We’ll have to wait for the translations, but in the Dragon scene, it was her and Whitebeard doing the bickering about some shit. Both had their little brothers in the crew, both also dismissed wasting time on Garp, and that directly contrasted with Kaido, who was portrayed as the weaker and more naive one.
@Ven437, think it’d be clear in the upcoming chapters that Whitebeard and BM could have been the top dogs. Shiki’s not getting much attention as I initially expected. At most, I can see him clashing briefly with Ray. If he doesn’t show acoc then it’s over for him ngl.
Did he? Bc last I saw roger cockblocked him from shakky and he was nowhere to be seen after they were crying. He ran away then lost in the war of love
Nah were not. WB got char assassinated pure and simple. Mf ran from marines and now he ran from Garp chuujo. Garp > WB
You can kinda excuse BM and Kaido bc they were far from their prime in god valley. Much younger than WB. WB has no real excuse tbh
They all took a shared L but WB portion is the biggest. Strongest after his captain and he high tailed it faster than BM threw her atk lmfao
Nah were not. WB got char assassinated pure and simple. Mf ran from marines and now he ran from Garp chuujo. Garp > WB
You can kinda excuse BM and Kaido bc they were far from their prime in god valley. Much younger than WB. WB has no real excuse tbh
They all took a shared L but WB portion is the biggest. Strongest after his captain and he high tailed it faster than BM threw her atk lmfao
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