Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 963: Becoming Samurai

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If next Oda uses Rayleigh and Roger to hype Oden

This will explain why even Sengoku even speaks highly of the guy!
Everybody got a taste of Oden badass aura and power

WB Roger Kaido , I bet he also fought Garp and Sengoku
Even Shiki...
I bet roger rayleigh and Oden went to BM cheateu ...Oden aura made Smoothie and co tremble...thence uses VOat and reads RPs while Roger is flattering BM with some sweet words.
Rayleigh fights Katakuri! This is how Rayleigh got to know that some people can use FS.

Oda will wank Oden to the highest...
 
If next Oda uses Rayleigh and Roger to hype Oden

This will explain why even Sengoku even speaks highly of the guy!
Everybody got a taste of Oden badass aura and power

WB Roger Kaido , I bet he also fought Garp and Sengoku
Even Shiki...
I bet roger rayleigh and Oden went to BM cheateu ...Oden aura made Smoothie and co tremble...thence uses VOat and reads RPs while Roger is flattering BM with some sweet words.
Rayleigh fights Katakuri! This is how Rayleigh got to know that some people can use FS.

Oda will wank Oden to the highest...
Shit up dude damn you’ve been writing the same shit since yesterday give it a break
 
I'm starting to believe that all these flashback chapters we've had of Oden's history and the scabbards directly confirms that the traitor in the alliance is indeed, one of the red scabbards..

I mean, think about it... These chapters allowed us to explore in-depth on how each of the scabbards met Oden, how much they loved him and how much they devoted their lives to him.. These chapters are perfect in distracting us into thinking it can't possibly be one of the red scabbards, when in fact, it is.

I think Oda is using these flashback chapters as a perfect setup tool, as a way to deliver a big shock to us when he finally reveals who the traitor is, when the scenario points to the present again.. a red scabbard being the traitor is the perfect shock that we would have, after all these chapters that revealed their loyalty to Oden.



A potential question I'd like to open up here is: the potential of the traitor in the alliance been against Oden. Would he be one of the biggest snakes in the series? Has he been against Oden from day one?

Not necessarily so. Whoever the traitor is - perhaps he loved Oden too, as much as the other scabbards, and was loyal to him.. he probably desired revenge as much as the others, but gave up with the realization of how hopeless it utterly seemed to take Kaido down, when even Oden couldn't do it; when even all the samurai that Wano beamed with pride 20 years ago, couldn't take down Kaido.

The traitor - I believe - thinks this plan will fail, like every other plan.. and has betrayed the alliance for the reason that he doesn't want more innocent lives lost, and has already accepted Wano's declining fate.
 
I'm starting to believe that all these flashback chapters we've had of Oden's history and the scabbards directly confirms that the traitor in the alliance is indeed, one of the red scabbards..

I mean, think about it... These chapters allowed us to explore in-depth on how each of the scabbards met Oden, how much they loved him and how much they devoted their lives to him.. These chapters are perfect in distracting us into thinking it can't possibly be one of the red scabbards, when in fact, it is.

I think Oda is using these flashback chapters as a perfect setup tool, as a way to deliver a big shock to us when he finally reveals who the traitor is, when the scenario points to the present again.. a red scabbard being the traitor is the perfect shock that we would have, after all these chapters that revealed their loyalty to Oden.



A potential question I'd like to open up here is: the potential of the traitor in the alliance been against Oden. Would he be one of the biggest snakes in the series? Has he been against Oden from day one?

Not necessarily so. Whoever the traitor is - perhaps he loved Oden too, as much as the other scabbards, and was loyal to him.. he probably desired revenge as much as the others, but gave up with the realization of how hopeless it utterly seemed to take Kaido down, when even Oden couldn't do it; when even all the samurai that Wano beamed with pride 20 years ago, couldn't take down Kaido.

The traitor - I believe - thinks this plan will fail, like every other plan.. and has betrayed the alliance for the reason that he doesn't want more innocent lives lost, and has already accepted Wano's declining fate.
Izo then.
 
On WB’s crew, I’m thinking most of the members we saw this chapter like Whitey Bay & the others that were no longer part of WBs crew during the war of the best all joined as apprentices like Marco (similar to Shanks on Roger’s ship) and then moved on to form their own crews when they felt they’d matured enough. Whereas the likes of Marco, Jozu & Vista all chose to stay with WB. Otherwise it doesn’t make sense why they’d have left a man like WB.

If you think about it, it makes sense, especially given WB’s character, I don’t think he’d go out of his way to recruit powerful fighters like Kaidou would for example, given his goal is to have a family.
 
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MD Zolo

Not Izo (Izo??).
To me, all of this narrows down to Shutenmaru.
Shutenmaru seems too honorable to me. Yes, he is a bandit that robbed from poor helpless people, but he is not the sneaky type. What he does, he does openly and boldly.

The least of amount background has been afforded to Kanjuro and Denjiro. Frankly, Denjiro going from Oden's fanboy to somebody who despise Oden could be poetic.
 
On WB’s crew, I’m thinking most of the members we saw this chapter like Whitey Bay & the others that were no longer part of WBs crew during the war of the best all joined as apprentices like Marco (similar to Shanks on Roger’s ship) and then moved on to form their own crews when they felt they’d matured enough. Whereas the likes of Marco, Jozu & Vista all chose to stay with WB. Otherwise it doesn’t make sense why they’d have left a man like WB.

If you think about it, it makes sense, especially given WB’s character, I don’t think he’d go out of his way to recruit powerful fighters like Kaidou would for example, given his goal is to have a family.
Also Whitebeard's only rule is not to harm any fellow crewmate, so jumping off the ship at any time you want shouldn't be a problem either.

What a contrast that compared with Big mom.
 
Roger Pirates apprentice becomes an infamous pirate and eventually Yonko after his captain dies

Whitebeard Pirates apprentice becomes a loser after his captain dies and gives up
Are you talking about buggy from Roger pirates? lol

point is, everyone got their own potential

Infact, a nobody from WB crew also became yonko, which is Blackbeard
 
The pace of the flashback is so fast. It looks like the latest news that Naito-san said about OP ending in 5 years can be true. This kind of news make me sad already. :'(
I really doubt it.If Dressrossa lasted 2.5 years , I think Wano alone still has over 1.5 year left.In the remaining 3.5 years I doubt Oda would be able to cover even half of the unresolved plot points.
 
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Shura

I really doubt it.If Dressrossa lasted 2.5 years , I think Wano alone still has over 1.5 year left.In the remaining 3.5 years I doubt Oda would be able to cover even half of the unresolved plot points.
Nope...he can do it...DR lasted long because he dragged some portion of it unnecessarily....if Oda avoids unnecessary drag, he can finish it in 5 years without rushing things
 
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