Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 977 : "The Party Won't Start Now"

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TheAncientCenturion

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I think Inuarashi is close to Jack's level and Ashura is probably also close to Jack level. About Denjiro I don't know.
The guy who needed help to tire Jack out over five days (not beat, just tire him out) while resting every 12 hours is on his level? No.

Denjiro can be on Jack's level or a little stronger. We need to wait for him, but the others definitely aren't.

But from the chapter Luffy only uses base punch, Zoro uses 2 swords, Jinbei uses basic punch. Almost all SH are casual and they still easily take down fortress while Denjiro who has YC3.5 Ashura Doji and Inuarashi thoguht it would be difficult to take down the said fortress.
Empty hype? Fodder are fodder, not a single named character exists. If anything, this downgrades Denjiro's reliability considering the ease of which Brook, Robin and Franky could impact the battle. Brook who was easily beaten by Perospero an arc ago.

Flying Six also gets hype in this chapter while Denjiro doesn't look that good. Kaido's son is probably not a shut in. Probably just a rebellious type character.
Yes. The Tobi Roppo look good. This doesn't effect the standing of Jack or the other All Stars.

Meanwhile, the most we know at this moment is that Kaido's son isn't showing up. There's no hype or inference you can gleam from that.


So far top tiers children have strong child.

Roger-Ace Has PK potential
Dragon-Luffy Will become PK
WB-Weevil Kizaru hyped him
BM-Katakuri YC1 and has CoC, advanced CoO

So I expect Kaido's son to be strong too.
BM has how many children who are trash? Like, 40 or something? There's the potential for Kaido's son to be something, but there's no reason to automatically assume he turns the current, established hierarchy of the crew on its head. That's wishful thinking.
 
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The guy who needed help to tire Jack out over five days (not beat, just tire him out) while resting every 12 hours is on his level? No.

Denjiro can be on Jack's level or a little stronger. We need to wait for him, but the others definitely aren't.



Empty hype? Fodder are fodder, not a single named character exists. If anything, this downgrades Denjiro's reliability considering the ease of which Brook, Robin and Franky could impact the battle. Brook who was easily beaten by Perospero an arc ago.


Yes. The Tobi Roppo look good. This doesn't effect the standing of Jack or the other All Stars.

Meanwhile, the most we know at this moment is that Kaido's son isn't showing up. There's no hype or inference you can gleam from that.



BM has how many children who are trash? Like, 40 or something? There's the potential for Kaido's son to be something, but there's no reason to automatically assume he turns the current, established hierarchy of the crew on its head. That's wishful thinking.

But the fact remains Denjiro thought that YC3.5 Inuarashi and YC3.5 Ashura Doji along with veterans scabbrad would have harder time to destroy the fortress while casual Zoro, Luffy, Jinbei easily destroy the fortress.

Are you saying Robin and Franky are above veteran level?

It was Oda who made Denjiro says that statement so take it what you will.

This effects jack since Denjiro who has YC3.5 Ashura Doji and Inuarashi thought scabbards could not destroy the fortress while casual SH easily did what Denjiro thought to be difficult.

I am talking about BM strongest child of course. I don't care about the rest of her children. The fact still remains that BM strongest child is YC1 and has CoC and advanced CoO so Kaido's son might be strong too.
 
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The guy who needed help to tire Jack out over five days (not beat, just tire him out) while resting every 12 hours is on his level? No.

Denjiro can be on Jack's level or a little stronger. We need to wait for him, but the others definitely aren't.



Empty hype? Fodder are fodder, not a single named character exists. If anything, this downgrades Denjiro's reliability considering the ease of which Brook, Robin and Franky could impact the battle. Brook who was easily beaten by Perospero an arc ago.


Yes. The Tobi Roppo look good. This doesn't effect the standing of Jack or the other All Stars.

Meanwhile, the most we know at this moment is that Kaido's son isn't showing up. There's no hype or inference you can gleam from that.



BM has how many children who are trash? Like, 40 or something? There's the potential for Kaido's son to be something, but there's no reason to automatically assume he turns the current, established hierarchy of the crew on its head. That's wishful thinking.
Which BM child is really trash? Even decuplets combined as giant were able to tag Vinsmokes and germa

Kaido only son is gonna be above Calamities or equal. He is the Boss child, obviously he has authority over anyone except Kaido.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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But the fact remains Denjiro thought that YC3.5 Inuarashi and YC3.5 Ashura Doji along with veterans scabbrad would have harder time to destroy the fortress while casual Zoro, Luffy, Jinbei easily destroy the fortress.
Calling them YC3.5 doesn't add validity to their standings. You can stop that, because Jack is able to fight against someone on Inuarashi's level for 5 days. Inuarashi was panting after 12 hours. Cracker's Haki could cut Boundman. The Dukes and Ashura Doji don't have feats to put them on that level.

Yes. That's a point that makes Denjiro questionable, because it looks easy for the likes of the Mid Trio. Brook, a member of said Mid Trio, would be no diffed by someone like Perospero. So how do you factor that in?

Are you saying Robin and Franky are above veteran level?
I'm saying defeating a fortress of fodder isn't impressive.

It was Oda who makde Denjiro says that statement so take it what you will.

This effects jack since Denjiro who has YC3.5 Ashura Doji and Inuarashi thought scabbards could not destroy the fortress while casual SH easily did what Denjiro thought to be difficult.
??? He said they were supposed to be the first difficult task according to the B.D.A. translation. Not that it was impossible. I don't understand where you're pulling that out of.

I am talking about BM strongest child of course. I don't care about the rest of her child. The fact still remians that BM strongest child is YC1 and has CoC and advanced CoO
And Kaido's YC1 is King. Kaido Jr.'s age isn't even known, what if he's only as old as Momo? You're making plenty of leaps over a single speech bubble where Kaido groans about his son not being present. Meanwhile, for Katakuri's intro, he was labeled as the monster dangerous person at the tea party. Bit of disparity there.
 
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