Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 978: Introducing the Tobi Roppo
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I think Kaido usually calls flyers to go calm or fetch His Son
That's why Ulti ask if it is family(Kaido's)issues again
If it is true then Kaido Jr gotta be hella strong that it takes flyers as a whole to do calm him down
I dont think 6 flyers are needed to handle a calamity t once! 3 flyers are enough or near.
That's why Ulti ask if it is family(Kaido's)issues again
If it is true then Kaido Jr gotta be hella strong that it takes flyers as a whole to do calm him down
I dont think 6 flyers are needed to handle a calamity t once! 3 flyers are enough or near.
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Why do you so desperately want Kaido's son to be a monster ?
I hope this won't turn into a Orochi situation tbh.
Sasaki also said that he hopes that this is finally an important order this time around, meaning all the previous problems with Kaido's son ( assuming that's tied to him) are not important/worth his time.
I hope this won't turn into a Orochi situation tbh.
Sasaki also said that he hopes that this is finally an important order this time around, meaning all the previous problems with Kaido's son ( assuming that's tied to him) are not important/worth his time.
To give a bit of context the word "Shinuchi" a.k.a headliner in some English translations is a term used in rakugo to refer to lead performers and then "Ookanban - " a.k.a. All Star in some English translations is a term used to refer to the big shots even amongst the shinuchi - i.e. the incredibly popular ones. So I guess you could think of the "shinuchi" and "ookanban" as two of the currently known titles in the beast pirates. So something akin to "executive" and "top executive" if it makes sense. And then there's a special group "tobi roppo" who are the strongest of those who hold the "shinuchi" title so akin to a "special executive"? of sorts
Being a gifter doesn't necessarily make you inferior to someone who uses a regular devil fruit. For example Sheepshead and Scotch (assuming he's a headliner..lolz) so it makes sense that even gifters can acquire the title so maybe that's why Oda referred to them as "the chosen"
Being a gifter doesn't necessarily make you inferior to someone who uses a regular devil fruit. For example Sheepshead and Scotch (assuming he's a headliner..lolz) so it makes sense that even gifters can acquire the title so maybe that's why Oda referred to them as "the chosen"
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. Love Shaltear but Albedo takes the cake for me
both are my top 2 girls tho :pSo in Rakugo, "Ookanban" (Lead Performers) is a unique version of the "Shinuchi"?
I'm thinking there are two types of Headliners: the pirate captains and the special Gifters. It's a bit like Big Mom's crew where we have Rook, Knight, and Bishop Peacekeeper Homies, but they're seemingly unrelated to the Combatants who hold a Rook, Knight, and Bishop rank.
The Numbers fill the number cards, but they're not necessarily the other executives aside from the Disasters. Maybe they're akin to giant pets, but then again, why keep them in silhouettes even in the Oden flashback?
I'm thinking there are two types of Headliners: the pirate captains and the special Gifters. It's a bit like Big Mom's crew where we have Rook, Knight, and Bishop Peacekeeper Homies, but they're seemingly unrelated to the Combatants who hold a Rook, Knight, and Bishop rank.
The Numbers fill the number cards, but they're not necessarily the other executives aside from the Disasters. Maybe they're akin to giant pets, but then again, why keep them in silhouettes even in the Oden flashback?
Yep ^^.
In Lilin's crew, the ones with the titles of Rook and so on are the non-family members iirc. Capone -> "Rook" Tamago => "Knight". Can't remember if Jinbe's rank was cited. And oh! didn't realise the homies also held "Rook" etc. titles.
The ting tho is I don't think headliner is a fixed title for those that join Kaidou's crew like Hawkins, Drake, Apoo etc. For example I reckon Doffy would be an "Ookanban" if he joined Kaidou's crew. Likewise if someone like Mister 5 joined, he prolly wouldn't be given the title of "shinuchi". Also Hawkins and Apoo are not allies but beast pirates. IIRC Ace's crew also joined the WB pirates when Ace joined and Ace is considered a member of the WB pirates.
In Lilin's crew, the ones with the titles of Rook and so on are the non-family members iirc. Capone -> "Rook" Tamago => "Knight". Can't remember if Jinbe's rank was cited. And oh! didn't realise the homies also held "Rook" etc. titles.
The ting tho is I don't think headliner is a fixed title for those that join Kaidou's crew like Hawkins, Drake, Apoo etc. For example I reckon Doffy would be an "Ookanban" if he joined Kaidou's crew. Likewise if someone like Mister 5 joined, he prolly wouldn't be given the title of "shinuchi". Also Hawkins and Apoo are not allies but beast pirates. IIRC Ace's crew also joined the WB pirates when Ace joined and Ace is considered a member of the WB pirates.
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When I try to find structure in a Yonko crew, I distinguish the pirate captains from the core crew. Kaido and Big Mom integrate theirs into their actual crew whereas Whitebeard, Blackbeard, and Luffy have them separated almost entirely from theirs.
When non-family members join the Big Mom Pirates, they join with their crew. That aspect was the basis for the WCI arc itself as Sanji was needed for Germa to join the Big Mom Pirates. Think 86 circles forming a single, larger one. The circle on top is Big Mom, but go clockwise, and it goes the Sweet 3, the veterans, the other Ministers, and the other Charlottes until you reach Anna, and then it goes back to Big Mom. Now stick a red flag on Chiffon; the flag represents Bege's crew, and the color means "Rook." The whole circle including the flags is the Big Mom Pirate crew.
When non-family members join the Big Mom Pirates, they join with their crew. That aspect was the basis for the WCI arc itself as Sanji was needed for Germa to join the Big Mom Pirates. Think 86 circles forming a single, larger one. The circle on top is Big Mom, but go clockwise, and it goes the Sweet 3, the veterans, the other Ministers, and the other Charlottes until you reach Anna, and then it goes back to Big Mom. Now stick a red flag on Chiffon; the flag represents Bege's crew, and the color means "Rook." The whole circle including the flags is the Big Mom Pirate crew.
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