Spoiler One Piece Chapter 990 Spoilers Discussion

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Also the "6 weaker Straw Hats vs. Tobi Roppo" crowd is going to hold a giant fucking L. It was obvious X-Drake was going to defect.

No one wants to accept that outside M3, SHs are essentially fodder when compared to the top dogs.
Bro literally no one was saying that a SH was gonna fight Drake. You’re just strawmanning
 
Can you stop it with this nonsense?

Luffy used G2 against Blueno, and Franky and Chopper then proceeded to beat 2 guys with the same Doriki as Blueno.

Luffy used G4 against a ship full of fodders and now a Number. Is fodder BP ship or a Number >>> the SHs, even though Franky one shot one with Radical Beam last chapter?
So G4 = Franky
 
Luffy used G4 against a ship full of fodders and now a Number. Is fodder BP ship or a Number >>> the SHs, even though Franky one shot one with Radical Beam last chapter?
But the whole situation was kinda different:
Luffy didn´t need G4 to beat the fodders on the ship, he wasn´t in trouble, for the numbers we need panels.
Against Ulti it was clear different with Luffy beeing in trouble so he need G4, with g2/g3 Luffy would beat any strawhat who isn´t named Zoro,Sanji and Jinbe.



Because of Ulti beeing strong and using her attack Luffy was hint that he need G4 her to protect himself.
How you can even compare both panels each other?
 
The period leading up to the fights is chapters 375-400, in those 26 chapters, We had Luffy vs Bleuno, a fight that last for about 7 chapters (382-388) Robins Flashback that lasted 9 chapters (391-399), It was really 11 chapters of luffy and galley law fighting fodder. Even in those 11 chapters Oda provided a lot of info dumps in those chapters. The content before the fights start in Enies lobby is quality honestly. Odens flashback ended in 973 were 17 chapters out of Odens flashback. And nothing has happened even close to things that were happening before the fights started in Enies Lobby.
Really? Nothing even close? Let's name every moderately important thing that has happened since 974, which is the last 17 chapters:

- Kanjuro was the traitor, hid his actual powers
- Momo was taken
- Luffy, Law and Kid arrived
- We found out everyone managed to avoid Orochi's schemes because Kinemon is an idiot
- Denjiro joined the good side
- Jinbe arrived and joined the crew
- They infiltrated Onigashima
- The Flying 6 were introduced
- We find our WW and Queen want to kill someone
- We find out there is a battle/merit structure to Kaidos crew
- Apoo was reintroduced and fought with Kid, Luffy and Zoro
- Sasaki captured
- Marco, Neko and Izo joined the alliance
- Pero manages to escape Marco's attack
- Law gets all the scabbards on the island
- Yamato was introduced
- We find out Yamato knew Ace, wants to join Luffys crew
- Luffy fought 2 of the flying 6
- Big Mom is reintroduced into the stage platform
- We learned about the New Onigashima Project
- Orochi is killed potentially
- Kanjuro was killed potentially
- Pero and Marco are allying with each other allegedy
- the Scabbards attack Kaido
- The minks transform
- Sanji saves Momo and clashes with King
- 5 of 9 Numbers have been shown
- The Strawhats reuinte
- Big Mom is moved out of the way so they can push forward

- Now we know Drake is the target of both WW and Queen
- Sasaki is freed
- Drake now an ally


Seriously. You are going to tell me Enies Lobby achieved more in the same number of chapters? I specifically remember it taking nearly 20 chapters for everyone to JUST get to the tower of Justice from the sea train, and the sea train was like 15 chapters itself.
 
But the whole situation was kinda different:
Luffy didn´t need G4 to beat the fodders on the ship, he wasn´t in trouble, for the numbers we need panels.
Against Ulti it was clear different with Luffy beeing in trouble so he need G4, with g2/g3 Luffy would beat any strawhat who isn´t named Zoro,Sanji and Jinbe.



Because of Ulti beeing strong and using her attack Luffy was hint that he need G4 her to protect himself.
How you can even compare both panels each other?
Ulti only managed to grab him because Luffy was distracted
 
Imagine thinking Wano or WCI gave you competent villains, and thinking both arcs have had any sort of tension or consequences.

"New world makes the first half look like paradise" "Yonkos rule over it like it's their own playground"

So far it's all been fun little pirates games with stalling and furthur stalling in between. No sense of urgency, danger or consequences.

If you believe it's anywhere near comparable to pre timeskip OP or even Deressrosa, then i don't know man, it's a wagwan for you.
When it comes to stalling...pre time skip is way worse than post. Did you read Skype a? Luffy was basically stuck in the snake for half the arc to stall so Eneru won’t be defeated. As a matter of fact almost every pre ts arc stalled
 
Ulti only managed to grab him because Luffy was distracted
Doesn´t change the fact that Ulti had enough power to bring Luffy so much in trouble to use G4.
Or do you forget that Pageone tank a upperhand G3 of current Luffy while Monster point Chopper(Franky Soul) was basically one shotet by it? Or that Ulti break though Luffy haki defense with her own headpower?
If the Flyers beeing all almost equal, these guys play with other supernova in similar league, do you think any strawhat could give serious Sanji or Jinbe a good high diff fight?
Without help I don´t see any 1on1 fight.
 
Yo. It did. 100%

People hated the sea train and the constant Luffy vs. Fodder for 10 chapters. People thought Oda was "going back to his old ways" from Skypiea by having fodder (Franky Family/Galley La) fight fodder (WG agents and the Enies Lobby agents).

People only love it now because in retrospect it was a great adventure and works well on a full reread. It also had great battles and ending. Funny how people say the same thing about Dressrosa. I've even heard the same thing about WCI, but BOTH DR and WCI are still awaiting payoffs from Wano.
Dressrosa was very bad compared to other arcs that involved taking down Warlords honestly. I dont think it'll ever recover from that.
 

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Really? Nothing even close? Let's name every moderately important thing that has happened since 974, which is the last 17 chapters:

- Kanjuro was the traitor, hid his actual powers
- Momo was taken
- Luffy, Law and Kid arrived
- We found out everyone managed to avoid Orochi's schemes because Kinemon is an idiot
- Denjiro joined the good side
- Jinbe arrived and joined the crew
- They infiltrated Onigashima
- The Flying 6 were introduced
- We find our WW and Queen want to kill someone
- We find out there is a battle/merit structure to Kaidos crew
- Apoo was reintroduced and fought with Kid, Luffy and Zoro
- Sasaki captured
- Marco, Neko and Izo joined the alliance
- Pero manages to escape Marco's attack
- Law gets all the scabbards on the island
- Yamato was introduced
- We find out Yamato knew Ace, wants to join Luffys crew
- Luffy fought 2 of the flying 6
- Big Mom is reintroduced into the stage platform
- We learned about the New Onigashima Project
- Orochi is killed potentially
- Kanjuro was killed potentially
- Pero and Marco are allying with each other allegedy
- the Scabbards attack Kaido
- The minks transform
- Sanji saves Momo and clashes with King
- 5 of 9 Numbers have been shown
- The Strawhats reuinte
- Big Mom is moved out of the way so they can push forward

- Now we know Drake is the target of both WW and Queen
- Sasaki is freed
- Drake now an ally


Seriously. You are going to tell me Enies Lobby achieved more in the same number of chapters? I specifically remember it taking nearly 20 chapters for everyone to JUST get to the tower of Justice from the sea train, and the sea train was like 15 chapters itself.
10/10 Goda.

@Chrono HxH is not even close to this.
 
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