Spoiler One Piece Film "RED" Spoiler Discussion Thread.
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More evidence that EoS Zoro and Mihawk are top tier and the former will be closer to Luffy than Sanji?
More evidence that EoS Zoro and Mihawk are top tier and the former will be closer to Luffy than Sanji?
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The stitch marks (thread knots) left on his rugged face and strong body prove that he was a fierce and ruthless warrior.
it seems to me Shanks crew is a bunch of warriors to be honest with yall
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Haki and strength means the same damn thing, the one with the strongest haki wins. 
As crazy as "Nami VS Building Snake" sounds, I'm with the "roles versus roles." Roux (the alleged number three) is a cook like Sanji. Shanks is one man short compared to Luffy and Blackbeard, but Yasopp is the number four. Maybe that's because both Usopp and Jimbei parallel him.
But really, I don't think the Straw Hats are fighting the Red-Hair Pirates.
But really, I don't think the Straw Hats are fighting the Red-Hair Pirates.
Nowhere in those panels is contradicted what the user of the Kage Kage himself explained about how his powers work. It's not a coincidence that for the good guys to return the shadows it was required that Moria killed the zombis himself in order to devour the now bodyless shadows to a point he couldn't keep them in and Luffy could force him to throw them up.
The only way for a shadow assigned to a body to return to its original owner was Moria giving the order. Beating him up or even killing him wouldn't work; if anything, it would require to beat him hard enough to force the order out of his mouth out of weakness (which is a scenario Moria reflected on too and is what that random, ignorant pirate in your panels would mean, if anything). Hence why Oda had to find a way for Luffy to achieve this without Moria commanding it —and this way needed that, by the time Moria was defeated, no zombi existed in Thriller Bark anymore.
Seriously, don't contradict manga facts. If Moria had been killed during the Nightmare Luffy beat up no shadow would have been returned.
The only way for a shadow assigned to a body to return to its original owner was Moria giving the order. Beating him up or even killing him wouldn't work; if anything, it would require to beat him hard enough to force the order out of his mouth out of weakness (which is a scenario Moria reflected on too and is what that random, ignorant pirate in your panels would mean, if anything). Hence why Oda had to find a way for Luffy to achieve this without Moria commanding it —and this way needed that, by the time Moria was defeated, no zombi existed in Thriller Bark anymore.
Seriously, don't contradict manga facts. If Moria had been killed during the Nightmare Luffy beat up no shadow would have been returned.
...Because Moria isn't a zombie and the shadows he empowers himself with are bodiless already.
I already explained it. When Luffy defeated Moria no zombie was left in Thriller Bark, those were free shadows already and he only needed to force the Shichibukai to throw them up as they weren't tied to any body. But KOing or killing Moria would not destroy his zombies; those assigned shadows need his explicit command to return to their original bodies, either that or you purify the zombie, but beating Moria up won't work.
So again, don't contradict the manga. You have the Kage Kage user explaining how his power works yet you will ignore because it opens the possibility of the homies being independent from the fruit user just like the zombies canonically are.
I already explained it. When Luffy defeated Moria no zombie was left in Thriller Bark, those were free shadows already and he only needed to force the Shichibukai to throw them up as they weren't tied to any body. But KOing or killing Moria would not destroy his zombies; those assigned shadows need his explicit command to return to their original bodies, either that or you purify the zombie, but beating Moria up won't work.
So again, don't contradict the manga. You have the Kage Kage user explaining how his power works yet you will ignore because it opens the possibility of the homies being independent from the fruit user just like the zombies canonically are.
