Spoiler One Piece Film "RED" Spoiler Discussion Thread.

Maybe its because @Blackbeard will be the one to end the life of @Shanks ...i'm hoping for a 3-way battle tho lol. The child, the inspiration, and the nemesis. An utopian scenario.
Worry not young man, i will put Shanks back in a pinewood box soon.
Don't you worry, BB won't be ready even next time when they are going to face RHPs... even if it happens somehow than they will needed someone else to do the job and later he finishes the work just like in WB's case. But BB will be getting clapped before that as well.
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Yeah I suppose that's why they had mobilize the entire Navy+ 3 Admirals+ Vice Admirals + Schichibukai just to deal with WB and his grand fleet.
Yup same way how Garp & Sengoku , who Whitebeard acknowledged as individuals on par with him & Roger, teamed up to take down Shiki.. somebody who both were superior to individually. lol. This is after we had already seen Sengoku wanting to go deal with Shiki and his fleet by himself.
 
Marine HQ Top - Secret Special Forces "SWORD" Captain: Drake X
Marine HQ "Sword" Member: Koby

Drake is the captain of the SWORD, just like Sento was the captain of the Science Unit. Koby is a member of the SWORD thus a subordinate to the captain. In other words... Koby is Drake's subordinate.
1. Drake reported info to COBY not the other way around.

2. Cobys position in sword was hidden since it's title.

3. Sword is an organization that is the opposite of cipher pol. Drake can be a captain of a sword division that is not cobys division.

So again nothing confirms that he is cobys Superior
 
Doffy knows about the secrets of the CDs inner circle. Like revealing their secret treasure would shake the world. Though Shanks may or may not know those secrets though.
He had dirt on the Celestial Dragons in the form of information on the some national treasure that was within Mariejoa. He said with that treasure & immortality granted by the Op Op, one can rule the world. They initally tried to kill him but once he became too powerful and couldn't be taken out, they were forced to work with him and he essentially had them by the balls which is probably how he was made a Warlord. [1][2][3]
Thanks, i thought Doffy made those remarks when Tsuru met him and after that there were those dialogues about treasures, secrets and history.

But he had said himself that after sometimes CD started to cooperate with him.

He was a walking nuke for them as well as a liability. :afrokappa:

Hope Oda doesn't let such an amazing character be rotted in prison.
If he is a CD (has it been confirmed?)
Not yet. I just assumed. Founded in a chest that's why I'm thinking chances are low.
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Wait, is that real?
Yo Sentinel. Yup Shanks did neg diff an admiral there without putting much efforts. Lol

Shanks CoO and CoC is already too op. Don't know what's Oda going to do with his CoA !!
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1. Drake reported info to COBY not the other way around.

2. Cobys position in sword was hidden since it's title.

3. Sword is an organization that is the opposite of cipher pol. Drake can be a captain of a sword division that is not cobys division.

So again nothing confirms that he is cobys Superior
1. "Reported info to Coby", not sure what that even has anything to do with subordinate and superior. lol. Drake is the one doing the infiltration, thus he would be the one reporting, so Koby can relay the information to the HQ.

2. He's literally called "MEMBER" of SWORD, what do you mean his position was hidden? That's literally his position lol.

3. SWORD isn't an organization, it's part of the organization called the Marines. Where it's a unit under the Marine HQ for top secret special forces, where the captain of the the special forces is Drake X. "Coby's division"... headcanon my guy.

You literally had to use headcanon to deny Koby being Drake's subordinate. Come on now my guy, let's keep it factual and not use your theories to deny what's been established.


It's no different than Sentomaru being the Captain for the Marine HQ Science Unit. While Drake is the captain of the Marine HQ Special Forces "SWORD"...



With that said, yes there is a CP0 vs SWORD thing being built up, where Drake is the core of it.
 

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
@Echizen_Jo_Ndule be like...

When spoilers confirm Katakuri briefly senses the other dimension: "I told you Katakuri's the best Haki user in the verse."

When spoilers confirm Yasopp is a better CoO user: "Lol, Film feats aren't canon."

When spoilers says Shanks shat on Katakuri and prevented him from using FS: "One Piece RED never happened."
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1. "Reported info to Coby", not sure what that even has anything to do with subordinate and superior. lol. Drake is the one doing the infiltration, thus he would be the one reporting.

2. He's literally called "MEMBER" of SWORD, what do you mean his position was hidden? That's literally his position lol.

3. SWORD isn't an organization, it's part of the organization called the Marines. Where it's a unit under the Marine HQ for top secret special forces, where the captain of the the special forces is Drake X. "Coby's division"... headcanon my guy.

You literally had to use headcanon to deny Koby being Drake's subordinate. Come on now my guy, let's keep it factual and not use your theories to deny what's been established.


It's no different than Sentomaru being the Captain for the Marine HQ Science Unit. While Drake is the captain of the Marine HQ Special Forces "SWORD"...

1. Subordinates are the ones receiving important reports from their leader. It's the other way around.

2. There is hierarchy with labels and name on the marines. So being called a member is sus since all marine positions have titles.

3. Sword is literally the opposite of cipher pole agies which means shield. Sword and shield. They are a division within the marines that act covertly the same way that cipher pol are agents of the world government that operate covertly. Don't know what you were trying to do with that point.

Spandam was captain of cp9 and is not captain of cp0. All cipher pol but different divisions
 

Rottkins

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No, he doesn't! He threatens Kizaru with a gun to prevent him from attacking civilians. That's not negating.



Again, no. It is Yasopp who creates a link with Usopp, who's inside another dimension. Yasopp also allegedly sees the future in both dimensions and relays that information to Usopp, which he then communicates to the people on his side. I'd say Usopp too should possess a very high-level observation to communicate with Yasopp, but the real deal here is Yasopp. Usopp is nowhere near his father from the looks of it.
:willsmith:For now... If oda will be nice for him at least once
 
1. Subordinates are the ones receiving important reports from their leader. It's the other way around.

2. There is hierarchy with labels and name on the marines. So being called a member is sus since all marine positions have titles.

3. Sword is literally the opposite of cipher pole agies which means shield. Sword and shield. They are a division within the marines that act covertly the same way that cipher pol are agents of the world government that operate covertly. Don't know what you were trying to do with that point.

Spandam was captain of cp9 and is not captain of cp0. All cipher pol but different divisions
1. Not when it's the leader doing the infiltrating and reporting information to the subordinate so he could pass it on. Maybe you also missed the part where Koby reported to Drake what he was doing as well. There's no law in a military unit "leaders don't relay information to subordinates".

2nd. Koby does have a position, he's a rear admiral in the marine HQ (which Oda mentions) aka the same rank Drake was when he went undercover. However, within the SWORD Koby is simply a member of it. Nothing sus about it.

3rd. You called them an organization, I corrected you on it. They're not an organization in the world of OP, they're a division under the Marine HQ, which you now corrected in your reply. And glad you accepted the "Coby's division" being headcanon as well.


Terrible example by comparing the Cipher Pol as a whole to the SWORD.


Cipher Pols 1-9 are collective organization akin to the Marines , Warlords, and the other two mentioned here. All 5 organizations of the World Government reporting directly to the Commander -in - Chief Kong & The Gorosei. SWORD is a division within one of those 5 organizations.

CP 0 are a seperate organization like the Marines, Warlords, etc.. that's directly under the Gorosei themselves. Which again is nothing like the SWORD when it comes to structure. SWORD is 1 specific special forces unit.

But as I said, yes there is a SWORD Vs CP0 being built up which Koby will be part of, and the one who's at the core of it is Drake, the captain of SWORD.
 
They know very well that things were massively overhyped by leakers now they gotta type OMG pretending like Marco levels feats are something worthy of getting worked up over.
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"It looks like Fuji and Kizaru fainting to Shanks CoC didnt went out too well..."


"Shit... lets come up with something new... Lets spread that Shanks managed to blitz a completely static Kizaru"

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1. Not when it's the leader doing the infiltrating and reporting information to the subordinate so he could pass it on. Maybe you also missed the part where Koby reported to Drake what he was doing as well. There's no law in a military unit "leaders don't relay information to subordinates".

2nd. Koby does have a position, he's a rear admiral in the marine HQ (which Oda mentions) aka the same rank Drake was when he went undercover. However, within the SWORD Koby is simply a member of it. Nothing sus about it.

3rd. You called them an organization, I corrected you on it. They're not an organization in the world of OP, they're a division under the Marine HQ, which you now corrected in your reply. And glad you accepted the "Coby's division" being headcanon as well.


Terrible example by comparing the Cipher Pol as a whole to the SWORD.


Cipher Pols 1-9 are collective organization akin to the Marines , Warlords, and the other two mentioned here. All 5 organizations of the World Government reporting directly to the Commander -in - Chief Kong & The Gorosei. SWORD is a division within one of those 5 organizations.

CP 0 are a seperate organization like the Marines, Warlords, etc.. that's directly under the Gorosei themselves. Which again is nothing like the SWORD when it comes to structure. SWORD is 1 specific special forces unit.

But as I said, yes there is a SWORD Vs CP0 being built up which Koby will be part of, and the one who's at the core of it is Drake, the captain of SWORD.
The organization is segregated based on different functions. The organization is segregated based on different divisions. Every function is responsible for whole business. Each division is responsible for its own results.

Cipher Pol is an organization and 0-9 are divisions.

Nothing implies that SWORD isn't the exact same way
 
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