because talking about sexism is out of place in a story like One Piece. Thats what i would call a "woke vibe").
I don’t understand, how would you for example deal with Kuina’s story in 2021?
You say talking about sexism is out of place in One piece. Why? Are you saying there is no concept of sexism in the one piece world or are you saying it’s there but the story just doesn’t acknowledge it?
Btw, none of the above options mean the TV show can’t deal with Sexism, it’s an adaptation. Like if you believe the concept of sexism doesn’t exist in One piece, THATS A STATEMENT. Do you understand?
if an American tv show, creates a show in which the world of the tv show, BLATANTLY HAS NO SEXISM, That in itself is a statement dealing with sexism. Get it? That means Kuina’s backstory changes. Right? That means aspects of Sanji’s chivalry changes because chivalry started with sexism. Do you understand what I mean? A blatant statement against the depiction of something, is in itself a statement about the thing you are not depicting.
for example a new “woke trend” is fantasy worlds with no concepts of homophobia. Like a story that never once mentions any single issue with gays or transsexuals in the story. Like a story where there is actually no word “gay”. As in a guy bangs a guy and it’s called sex the exact same way a guy banging a girl is called sex. No one even can tell the difference in the story itself.
Do you see what just happened? There is no statement about gay rights or whatever you don’t like. There is no even acknowledgement that “gay” is a concept anyone in the world understands. And just like that, you’ve made a woke statement but specifically removing the talking points of the whole statement from the story.
So, the option of saying “There is no sexism in the world of one piece” requires actual proof, and the act of making sure this statement is true is itself “woke” because you have to actually change one piece into this “non sexist world” that it is.
And so the next option is “there is sexism but the story doesn’t focus on it”. Well that’s fine. The story will remain about adventure and action, but since you acknowledge that there is sexism in the world, what’s wrong with show displaying it? You can say “maybe they overdo it and it detracts from the pacing and story” which is a good criticism, but what if they don’t do that? What if they make a clear definitive plot point about sexism that doesn’t detract from THEIR STORY since they are allowed to change shit, and the pacing is unaffected and the story is actually well told? What then? Is it now bad again to even talk about it yet it’s there? Isn’t it then weird for people experiencing sexism to ignore it in the story itself?
See this is the trap of the “no politics in my stories” or “no wokeness in my story” camps, its a statement itself to not have any of these. If you make a movie or whatever devoid of any message of any kind, you have unintentionally made a story where the point is to not have those things.
if you make a 10 season show where you say “I dont want to address race issues so I’ll just make everyone White in the show” that in itself is a statement against race. Its not automatically neurtral to ignore things.
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Sounds like they're dumbing it down and making it worse to me
@ArturCantSpeakJapanese
What? Oda himself literally says multiple times he keeps shit simple for 12 year olds to understand and enjoy
The tv show seems to be changing archetypes. Which is good because archetypes dont cross mediums and cultures easily. Sanji’s pervert gag literally cannot work in anyway in america. Zoro’s badass swordsman is specifically an anime archetype. Luffy’s dumb nice guy protagonist thing can exist in certain forms in America such as Peter quill but it would need other things to work. Luffy would need an actual character flaw for his archetype to work in America and Luffy has none in the manga
