News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[[No Name]]

Bro forgot that WW needed queen for drake

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Stop coping already.

Go handled Drake who is WsW level at worst, like he was a child. Arguably just as easily as Jimbei did if not easier.

Tbh, Drake didn't do anything to warrant a place besides WsW. And Go definitely didn't treat him like a child although he did handle him easier than Jimbe handled WsW.

 

[ZenZu]

Bro forgot that WW needed queen for drake

Bro just erased WsW was sucking Queen's dick, completely frauding like he was gunning for the Calamity spot 😭

Tbh, Drake didn't do anything to warrant a place besides WsW. And Go definitely didn't treat him like a child although he did handle him easier than Jimbe handled WsW.

Drake is in the upper end of Tobbi Roppo for sure, their intro portrayal suggested as much. WsW vs Drake isn't gonna be any less than a high diff fight bare minimum.

 

[Extravlad]

How is Drake WW level at worst? WW was the strongest TR (highest bounty and was leading them like Ichiji did in the intro) and vying for a Calamity spot.

Bounty scaling doesnt work on Drake when
1. He had the same one pre timeskip
2. He's part of Sword and Marine HQ knows it

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Drake is in the upper end of Tobbi Roppo for sure, their intro portrayal suggested as much. WsW vs Drake isn't gonna be any less than a high diff fight bare minimum.

Drake could be the second strongest of the F6 for all we know, but that doesn't warrant a closeness in strength b/w the two. WsW was definitely much more impressive than Drake in every possible way.

 

[ZenZu]

Drake could be the second strongest of the F6 for all we know, but that doesn't warrant a closeness in strength b/w the two. WsW was definitely much more impressive than Drake in every possible way.

I'm the last to hype up Drake's piss poor feats, but WsW isn't too far off, he's not that impressive. I don't even know if he outfeats Ulti, I would probably rate her feats higher.

 

[DKI]

How dare you enjoy characters for who they are and how they're written over playground powerscaling.

Wanking a character without any agenda driven purposes? Wait... That's illegal!

 

[God Buggy]

We gotta get:
- A Shiryu VC
- A Kizaru VC
- An Aokiji one too

 

[Gol D. Roger]

I'm the last to hype up Drake's piss poor feats, but WsW isn't too far off, he's not that impressive. I don't even know if he outfeats Ulti, I would probably rate her feats higher.

WsW wasn't that impressive in the grand scheme of things but it's Drake whose performance is so bad that it doesn't even measure upto WsW's mediocre feats. So far, we have little reason to believe they're on the same level forget about being close. Ulti appears to be closer to WsW than Drake in all honesty.

 

[ZenZu]

WsW wasn't that impressive in the grand scheme of things but it's Drake whose performance is so bad that it doesn't even measure upto WsW's mediocre feats. So far, we have little reason to believe they're on the same level forget about being close. Ulti appears to be closer to WsW than Drake in all honesty.

Yea and I doubt Drake is supposed to be much weaker than Ulti, if at all. So yea there's just not that big of a gap there. If WsW was clearing Ulti by a mile, I would actually agree he is above the rest of the tobbi roppo by leaps and bounds.

If you really look at it, Drake didn't actually get a proper fight. Him and Apoo were just running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Someone like Black Mariah or Sasaki are a different case, they got their fights and were just plain ass, especially BM.

 

[Hiragaro]

Go handled Drake who is WsW level at worst, like he was a child.

Go had a Bloody face, was huffing and said Drake was tough to beat. ''Handled like a Child'' lol

 

[ZenZu]

Go had a Bloody face, was huffing and said Drake was tough to beat. ''Handled like a Child'' lol

Yes Jimbei was also bleeding against WsW, so was Magellan against Ivankov. I consider these one sided asswhoopings, with a bit of a setback. That's all.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Yea and I doubt Drake is supposed to be much weaker than Ulti, if at all. So yea there's just not that big of a gap there. If WsW was clearing Ulti by a mile, I would actually agree he is above the rest of the tobbi roppo by leaps and bounds.

If you really look at it, Drake didn't actually get a proper fight. Him and Apoo were just running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Someone like Black Mariah or Sasaki are a different case, they got their fights and were just plain ass, especially BM.

Not that I believe Drake is weaker than her. I am just saying he's been so bad that you can justify putting Ulti over Drake. WsW did look much better than Ulti overall. Her greatest feats are supposedly making Luffy consider using

I don't think we have a clear view of where exactly the F6 are supposed to be. What we know for sure is that there are slight or even significant differences in their strength levels despite them sharing the same rank and despite what we're made to believe during their introduction. Sasaki was "supposed" to be WsW's rival, and we know how things ended for him. If we're going off where they're supposed to be, we'd be having debates about Jinbe's superiority over Franky. I don't think that's a conversation you'd like to entertain.

Mr. Go was great and the things he had done were nothing but great, but I doubt we could start comparing him to the likes of Jinbe based on what we've seen.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Yes Jimbei was also bleeding against WsW, so was Magellan against Ivankov. I consider these one sided asswhoopings, with a bit of a setback. That's all.

I think it's Oda way of showing a gap without straight up making it a neg. between low and mid diff.

 

[ZenZu]

Not that I believe Drake is weaker than her. I am just saying he's been so bad that you can justify putting Ulti over Drake. WsW did look much better than Ulti overall. Her greatest feats are supposedly making Luffy consider using

I don't think we have a clear view of where exactly the F6 are supposed to be. What we know for sure is that there are slight or even significant differences in their strength levels despite them sharing the same rank and despite what we're made to believe during their introduction. Sasaki was "supposed" to be WsW's rival, and we know how things ended for him. If we're going off where they're supposed to be, we'd be having debates about Jinbe's superiority over Franky. I don't think that's a conversation you'd like to entertain.

Mr. Go was great and the things he had done were nothing but great, but I doubt we could start comparing him to the likes of Jinbe based on what we've seen.

Sasaki himself implied he's weaker than Drake IIRC, I think Drake > Sasaki is the correct take.

Either way, WsW simply doesn't have the feats, portrayal or anything to hold Mr.Go's jockstrap. Tobi Roppo is something entirely beneath him. WsW doesn't have better feats than Apoo.

 

[kurwa]

Sulong Neko >YC3 >>>Izo/Neko>>Perospero>>Guernica>>Jinbe>Franky/Robin>Tobiroppo

 

[gz89]

- A Shiryu VC

Worlds Strongest Janitor has to happen.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Not that I believe Drake is weaker than her. I am just saying he's been so bad that you can justify putting Ulti over Drake. WsW did look much better than Ulti overall. Her greatest feats are supposedly making Luffy consider using

I don't think we have a clear view of where exactly the F6 are supposed to be. What we know for sure is that there are slight or even significant differences in their strength levels despite them sharing the same rank and despite what we're made to believe during their introduction. Sasaki was "supposed" to be WsW's rival, and we know how things ended for him. If we're going off where they're supposed to be, we'd be having debates about Jinbe's superiority over Franky. I don't think that's a conversation you'd like to entertain.

Mr. Go was great and the things he had done were nothing but great, but I doubt we could start comparing him to the likes of Jinbe based on what we've seen.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Overall. I don't see them beating him without their fruits.

So you think Oden beats a supreme blade weilder and a black blade weilder in swordsmanship then?

 

[MarineHQ]

L'EE