News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[Elder Lee Hung]

Superior blades are just an added advantage to the user's power as far as I am concerned. Just having superior blade doesn't make you stronger/weaker than the other swordsman.

Just curious, excluding Fujitora and Ryokugyu: what other supreme blade/black blade weilders would you even consider being weaker than Oden?

 

[MarineHQ]

Correction :
They are only relevant to some degree if they match my agenda
Otherwise

Yes

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

If Lucci doesn't fight Zoro all this arguing doesn't happen, which is sad for people like me who actually likes Guernica for his personality and the commitment to his role he showed during the arc, without giving a damn about his actual power level.

How dare you enjoy characters for who they are and how they're written over playground powerscaling.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Just curious, excluding Fujitora and Ryokugyu: what other supreme blade/black blade weilders would you even consider being weaker than Oden?

None that I can think of. I rate those two higher than Oden.

 

[sanjikun]

Lucci is stronger than Guernica. Kaku is stronger than Guernica. Fuck even WW > Guernica.

There is nothing indicating Guernica can even beat Izou in a 1 on 1. Thinking Oda wrote that "strongest" shit in VCs is nonsensical. It's just poorly worded b.s.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

None that I can think of. I rate those two higher than Oden.

Fruitless?

 

[sanjikun]

 

[SkySanji]

WsW is talking about CP9, the group he was a part of, why would he mention CP0 Guernica...?

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Fruitless?

Overall. I don't see them beating him without their fruits.

 

[sanjikun]

WsW is talking about CP9, the group he was a part of, why would he mention CP0 Guernica...?

He's much closer in age to Guernika than Lucci. If anything Guernika would've been his rival.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Lucci is stronger than Guernica. Kaku is stronger than Guernica. Fuck even WW > Guernica.

There is nothing indicating Guernica can even beat Izou in a 1 on 1. Thinking Oda wrote that "strongest" shit in VCs is nonsensical. It's just poorly worded b.s.

Lucci I can understand, but we have no reason to think the rest are above him.

 

[SkySanji]

He's much closer in age to Guernika than Lucci. If anything Guernika would've been his rival.

Except WsW was CP9 and Guernica is CP0 as I said...

 

[sanjikun]

Except WsW was CP9 and Guernica is CP0 as I said...

You realize people aren't born into CP0? They move there from CP7, 8, 9.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

You realize people aren't born into CP0? They move there from CP7, 8, 9.

That doesn't change much. You're creating a non-existing correlation. People have only ever been compared when they're within the same group/organization.

 

[ZenZu]

Fuck even WW > Guernica.

Stop coping already.

Go handled Drake who is WsW level at worst, like he was a child. Arguably just as easily as Jimbei did if not easier.

 

[sanjikun]

Stop coping already.

Go handled Drake who is WsW level at worst, like he was a child. Arguably just as easily as Jimbei did if not easier.

How is Drake WW level at worst? WW was the strongest TR (highest bounty and was leading them like Ichiji did in the intro) and vying for a Calamity spot.

 

[ZenZu]

How is Drake WW level at worst? WW was the strongest TR (highest bounty and was leading them like Ichiji did in the intro) and vying for a Calamity spot.

Irrelevant, Drake is WW level. No amount of cope is gonna change that reality.

Mr.Go dealt with Drake around the same difficulty Jimbei dealt with WsW. WsW is not dealing with Drake as easily as that, he should consider himself lucky to even win.

 

[sanjikun]

Irrelevant, Drake is WW level. No amount of cope is gonna change that reality.

Mr.Go dealt with Drake around the same difficulty Jimbei dealt with WsW. WsW is not dealing with Drake as easily as that, he should consider himself lucky to even win.

No he isn't. Not all TR are the same, just like not all the Calamities are the same. WW was legit portrayed as a contender for Calamity spot, while Drake was Queen's bitch.

Jinbe literally got the same bounty as Zoro and Sanji for beating Who's Who.

 

[ZenZu]

WW was legit portrayed as a contender for Calamity spot, while Drake was Queen's bitch.

 

[sanjikun]

Why did Jinbe get a 1.1 billion berry, the same as Zoro and Sanji if his opponent was "Drake" level who has a bounty of 200 mill?