News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[SakazOuki]

Didnt even fought akainu

We only saw curiel vs akainu who was backed by marines soliders
Akainu had to 20v1 curiel

Pirates had fodder too
If Mihawk’s equals can’t get past some fodder then the issue is bigger than I thought

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I need a closeup tbh, Oda is super inconsistent with drawing damage in distant panels.

Either way, I'm not gifting Drake feats. I don't believe he can do that damage to Go in a 1v1.

The most I'll give him is that in a 2v4 he found some way to damage Mr.Go.

Lol…. Argue with the manga at this point, you can see it with your own eyes, the manga calls out only one as tough. You have nothing but your own inherent bias telling you Apoo did something.

 

[The DevilMaster]

His feats certainly align with it.

He intercepted Kaidou and Luffy mid blitz, when he was several meters behind them.

Took Hachinosu Garp lvl stab without even falling to his knees. Immediately finished Drake off.

Endured Angry Drunk Kaidou's full power adCoC strike to the head without defending himself, long enough to take pics of G5 Luffy before succumbing to his injuries.

Destroyed Drake and Apoo in a 2v4.

What a monster, and to think he couldn't even move in front of Kaidou.

 

[HA001]

Two of the people standing there completely managed to stall Mihawk lmaoo

3 of them stalled akainu

Marco
Vista

And Croc cut him in half lmfaooo

 

[JoNdule]

Drake and Vergo are frauds

 

[ZenZu]

Lol…. Argue with the manga at this point, you can see it with your own eyes, the manga calls out only one as tough. You have nothing but your own inherent bias telling you Apoo did something.

Bruh...Apoo survived the encounter. The bone is being thrown at Drake.

He said he "was" tough, meaning he got defeated. Apoo was still conscious and good to go at that point.

Why the hell would he say he was tough or they were tough, when one of them is still not defeated? Drake is tough, no doubt about it. Ancient Zoans aren't super easy to bring down, especially since Go lacks a super heavy offense. Efficient yes, but nothing too crazy.

Apoo even tanked Go's finisher against Drake.

 

[JoNdule]

Didn’t even use Shugan or rokuogan
Mr Go’s shigan>Awakened Lucci’s Rokuogan = KoH Onigiri

Reminder Apoo fought Drake and zoro in 1v2 for a while

Mr Go took down Drake and Apoo in 2v4

 

[L57]

Pirates had fodder too
If Mihawk’s equals can’t get past some fodder then the issue is bigger than I thought

ngl this needs a thread
How i missed this
Had to 20v1 curiel didnt even fought the wbp

 

[Fisher Tiger]

You guys keep falling for offpanel piece.

Both Izo and Drake were being sacrificed. Oda threw them both a bone.

But atleast in Izo's case he managed to do a kamikaze maneuver and take Maha down.

Drake was in a 2v4 far fresher than Izo and the best we got was some blood dripping off Go.

Izo is atleast above Drake though.

And Mr.Go isn't above Lucci.

I don’t see how Mr.Go is above Izo. Even if the fight was off panel, the only panel we get to see says a lot. Wherever you put Mr.Go, you have to put Izo above.

Mr.Go completely broke the scaling lmaoo, imma take the Vivre cards with a grain of salt from now on

 

[ZenZu]

Reminder Apoo fought Drake and zoro in 1v2 for a while

Mr Go took down Drake and Apoo in 2v4

Drake stans try and erase the facts for fanfiction. Crazy work.

 

[HA001]

Bruh...Apoo survived the encounter. The bone is being thrown at Drake.

He said he "was" tough, meaning he got defeated. Apoo was still conscious and good to go at that point.

Why the hell would he say he was tough or they were tough, when one of them is still not defeated? Drake is tough, no doubt about it. Ancient Zoans aren't super easy to bring down, especially since Go lacks a super heavy offense. Efficient yes, but nothing too crazy.

Apoo even tanked Go's finisher against Drake.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

As for the other topic, Mr Go is strong, stronger than Katakuri, Kidd, Oven, aPoo and all those irrelevant bums, no need to make things up.

 

[LemonadeCandy]

Reminder Apoo fought Drake and zoro in 1v2 for a while

Note that Apoo was also doing crowd control while fending off Zoro and Drake. The entire live floor was going after him.

 

[Fisher Tiger]

Went back to check the chapters and injured Izo 1v2ed them for the entire last stretch of BM vs Kid and Law on top of other events.

Either Izo is higher commander level or Vivre Cards are just bullshit

 

[ZenZu]

I don’t see how Mr.Go is above Izo. Even if the fight was off panel, the only panel we get to see says a lot. Wherever you put Mr.Go, you have to put Izo above.

Mr.Go completely broke the scaling lmaoo, imma take the Vivre cards with a grain of salt from now on

Nah Izo went kamikaze, while I can respect it. That's not enough to compete with Mr.Go.

The feat where he intercepted Kaidou and Luffy mid blitz is above Izo's entire career, and his pay grade. Izo looked like canon fodder next to Kaidou's invisible wind slashes, he has no business being near a fight of that caliber.

 

[The DevilMaster]

X-drake managed to sneak a shot and still couldn't defeat Mr-Go, he was defeated even with this cheap trick.
While an injured Izo speeds into a 1 versus 2, with the same man included, and kills Mr-Go's friend.

The scale is strange, but MR-GO is in fact a YC1 or even a higher ceiling, him just accepting his fate in front of the presence of the strongest Kaidou is nice of him, this makes Kaidou too monstrous, killing a guy like that with just one blow.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

ngl this needs a thread
How i missed this
Had to 20v1 curiel didnt even fought the wbp

Waiterbros are so used to cap that someone will probably tell you that those marines aren't with Akainu while he's bleeding against a YC15!

 

[JoNdule]

Note that Apoo was also doing crowd control while fending off Zoro and Drake. The entire live floor was going after him.

Zoro had to sneak attack Apoo when Drake pressured him
But when apoo was on his guard knowing that zoro is there...they couldn't overpower him

Mr Go handled Drake and Apoo pretty easily
Then went on intercepting Luffy vs Kaido by restraining Luffy

His speed is top tier and his lethality is at least on Lucci's level
You saw how awakened Lucci could almost KO fresh Sentomaru with 1 hit while kizaru can't.
Mr GO would do the same

In fact, Mr. GO CAN BEAT KING AND DOFFY 1V1 if they fool around

 

[Welkin]

Wait Guernica is canonically > Lucci Kaku and Stussy?

I knew he was the leader but I thought it was similar to a Spandam situation

Obviously not exactly the same since he’s shown to be a competent combatant but I didn’t think he was that strong

One Piece is full of surprises I guess

 

[SkySanji]

Why hasn't Guernica's VC been posted yet? It's like the only one.