[FNZ] Role Madness One Piece Whole Cake Island

[ConquistadoR]

Bruh there is 100% scum in Conq here, look and see the fangs
Look at his actions since last dp
Look at all the dead townies in his wake throughout this entire game despite bein one of the protector roles that we have

You defended Dest for an entire day and he flipped as Scum.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Just vote him. He's 100% Non Town.

 

[Pot Goblin]

You defended Dest for an entire day and he flipped as Scum.

Go kick rocks lmao
I would never ever do that as scum if he was my buddy
I could've just bussed him and ran
But I feel the fire here
I see the sweat on your brow

 

[Lord Melkor]

Yes. Vote him.

Vote lynch Pot Goblin

but please do not end day early.

Based on the number of deaths i think there can indie after all. Who is it?

 

[Pot Goblin]

Vote lynch Pot Goblin

but please do not end day early.

Based on the number of deaths i think there can indie after all. Who is it?

The state of this town I swear lmao
Fellas I highly, highly recommend looking at Conq's iso and reading through his interactions last dp
See it through my eyes and see what we're workin with here


@Lord Melkor
@Charlie
@T-Pein™
@MonochromeYoru
@Kagu Nyan

 

[Lord Melkor]

The state of this town I swear lmao
Fellas I highly, highly recommend looking at Conq's iso and reading through his interactions last dp
See it through my eyes and see what we're workin with here


@Lord Melkor
@Charlie
@T-Pein™
@MonochromeYoru
@Kagu Nyan

Make ISO then i need to sleep.

I also want to hear from others.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Go kick rocks lmao
I would never ever do that as scum if he was my buddy
I could've just bussed him and ran
But I feel the fire here
I see the sweat on your brow

There were literally just TWO people supporting Dest the entire last dayphase.
One was you and the other was Charlie who literally started playing last Day Phase.

I was right on the money with Dest being scum, right on the money with Nat being Town.
Nat & TAC both wanted you lynched next too.

I'm sure that you're gonna flip Tony Tony Chopper, a Scum Healer.

@Kagu Nyan @Charlie @MonochromeYoru @T-Pein™ @Lord Melkor it's time to vote up @Pot Goblin

 

[ConquistadoR]

Pot literally showed you @Charlie that Dest was Open Scumming.
He then switched onto me in a last minute attempt to save Dest.

He was literally open scumming Last DP. Time to get his lynch.

 

[ConquistadoR]

but please do not end day early.

Regardless of my read on you, with this I've always 100% been with you.
It's never good to end day phase - since people are in different time zones and need time to read.

 

[Pot Goblin]

Spoiler: Conq Iso Part 1

Hello guys!

Lmfao chill homie.

Im gonna play this game fully this time.

Good lord, we're gonna have a fuck ton of nonsense fake claims based on all of BM's children....

Basically just find the name of a sweet item/ingredient" and name yourself "Charlotte Nougat" & I'm pretty sure she'd have a kid named that.
The big Momma family's just crazy.

Jesus...

You should've atleast waited until he called Ratchet "Daddy"....

Nice avatar btw.

@MonochromeYoru also counts i guess.

I went to sleep, then uni today and i just got off work. Ill be free in a couple of hours. Ill catch up and give out my reads.

Was out with friends. I didnt even read yet. Omw back, will be with my pc in 1/2 hr tops.

??? Why

Wait D1 is just 24 hours and not 48???

I thought it was 48 hr d1.
I just came back home.

Can you give a quick summary now? I'll read fully during n1.

Anything else happened?

Tell me more about Ekko too, how did he get outed?

I have nothing to hide.
I came back home, ready to read and play for a 48 hr d1, didnt expect it to be 24 hr.

Ill read up and share thoughts next DP.

So far,

Strong Town Leans: MUUGEN, Destroya, Natalija, SakazOuki
Decent Town Leans: Flower, SamosaSombrero, TAC, Yoru

I don't have a great "Scum" lean but i think it's worth looking into Ekko's reads/interactions to see some distancing attempts.

SamosaSombrero post here about Ekko seems like either damn good town read or feels like TMI, i'm willing to bet that it's a great read atp.

Oh.. idk that was possible.

Could therre be a role existing outside the usual Mafia though? I'm not sure i've played in a game w/ that kind of a role before.

Yea i was reading up.

Nothing too scummy caught my eye tbh.
Ekko's flip in retrospect only strengthened certain positions of mine as i read through the thread - like you & MUUGEN being Town bcs there was no way you two and Ekko were in the same team after how your respective interactions with Ekko went down.

I like how TAC, Nat and SakazOuki are playing, feeling good about placing them as Town. Especially how SakazOuki didn't buy Ekko's BS claim for even a single second when half of the ppl on his Wagon were dreaming about using his "Hider" ability.

Sombrero's post was something that caught my eye though - and i talked about it.

Yea you are correct.

@Dr_Professor83 just for confirmation, when you said you are Big News Morgans... was that a serious claim or was that a joke? And if serious, what's your alignment & wincon?

You gotta give us more than that...

For some reason, i just didn't sense that same Gamesolving intent mixed with some Paranoia & that distinct Townie Energy from Prof's posts so far - like what we saw in the JJK game. I still have him at Null, but it might just be because of me reading the entire thread during N1 and not interacting with Prof in the thread during D1.

I think I'll have a solid read on Prof by the end of this phase when i interact with him more.

Flower, i did find it odd that someone as experienced as Flower bought Ekko's "Charlotte Anglais" bullshit claim - but i'm just putting her in the "weaker" townpile for now due to her claim. But yea, she's not a town lock in my mind.

Proactivity & in general their contribution to gamesolving. Pretty sure TAC also hinted (cant find the exact post, just that's some info i have jotted down in my notes) that he's a prominent character in the game so, i'm willing to place him on the townpile.

Nat's no nonsense attitude when it comes to interacting with others, as scum you will try to play it lowkey more times than not rather than going all aggressive when it comes to gamesolving. She wasn't panicking one bit when interacting with you or Dest and that's more often than not a town sign.

@Flower 's past UN i think

It's also possible that she didn't protect anyone but rather abstained after reading Cal's posts.

Wait did u stay inside N1?
How are u masons with Psylocke then?

Ill be back in a couple of hours.

What is this question lol?
Did i say i did something?
I just said i wont be available for the next couple of hours bcs i was busy.

I did say i will play this game and yes I have been called out for activity for the past few games i've been part of. It doesn't bother me in this one, because as i said - ive been serious about this game since the beginning.

I didnt really think all that deep into saying some mundane thing. You're making a mountain out of a molehill imo.

This doesn't seem like a reaction from Town Prof.
For some reason, i've always felt off about you this game bc i dont see the usual, paranoic, gamesolving guy i saw in the jjk game.

Think muugen is onto another live one here.

I will lemme catchup in a bit.

[vote Prof]

Dude do you really think i spent all day reading 100 pages worth of content, to not be active and to not play this game fully? Really?
I just went away from my place for a while, got back as soon as im done.

Fair enough. You can make your judgements off my thread play of this DP then.

But even if i was actually wolf, there is no way i sit and read 100 pages when i can simply ask one of my teammates for a summary.

@Dr_Professor83 idk why but for some reason you've felt off this game to me, especially since we recently played the JJK game as town together and we were vibing together.

Your aggressive reaction to being pushed about your play around the Hider claim just doesn't seem like something you would do in the JJK game. Especially with being this confrontational about it, bcs Town Prof i know is usually more focused on gamesolving and wouldn't be so pressed about something especially when he has nothing to hide.

This reaction seems like you're being nervous or stressed when pushed and that tells me you have something to hide.

It comes off as paranoia usually about your decisions - which is again something i didn't see much both during the Ekko lynch & about his Hider claim.

I've seen you and Ratchet duke it out in almost dozens of games now and i've almost never seen you be this confrontational about anything really.

Alright i'll give you some space and stop bothering you about it. Sorry if i was pushing you too much.

That's what i asked though. I've never seen Prof get this aggressive before.

To be really honest, Kerko seems like another Zolo/Midnight type of player. I've played a few games with him and this is what i honestly feel.

[unvote]

No point in lynching Prof this DP.

Nat seemed to be painfully townie on D1.
And TAC hinted at a prominent character role.

Can you case them?

Claim's solid. Adds up with how the roles should be instead of "Anglais" nonsense.

Still don't feel the same Prof as previous town games, but i dont think lynching the RC-er is the way to go.

Yours and Flowers pushes mainly stem from you two being a bit iffy when playing around Ekko's claim. It doesn't have to do with you town reading them tbh. I agree with your consideration of TAC's play today though that too is just signature TAC - "reads > claims" stubborness.


See i can understand the problem with the logic, but do you really think that comes from a scum perspective? Especially considering how she interacted with Dest and you on d1?

I'm not really sure TAC is the way to go here.
His gameplay seems painfully similar to his play as Town before.

Bc it's easier for me to think that it comes from a town trying to gamesolve rather than being scum-motivated pushes. And as i said, especially considering Nat's D1.

It is what it is, that claim reeked of a Fake from 10 miles away.
Ekko fumbled his claim so hard it's funny.

I still cannot fully comprehend why two experienced players would eat it up or even bother entertaining his nonsense.

He tunneled you and Indigo for days until you were lynched, yeah?

He hasn't gone that far yet here.

That's his usual stubbornness though.
Idk how that translates to being scum read.

You were about to Gamble on this guy btw.

There are limits to taking risks too.

OP Mash was TAC pushing Flower for multiple 48 hour dayphases straight, dozens of head to heads in the thread - until she was finally (mis)lynched iirc.

Please, he has done literally nothing like that here.

I've never played Hider or been in a game with that role before i think.

Then i guess i should re-evaluate my read of him.

Either way, those are hypotheticals. We need to decide on a lynch right now with just ~50 minutes remaining and i dont think TAC is the way to go here.

What do you think of Nat, btw?

Thought Cal/Yourself were good places to start looking at the start of this DP.

With all the claims now, i'm not sure anymore.

@Dr_Professor83 how do you feel about a @MonochromeYoru CFD?

Slimy responses, barely anything offered after 70 odd posts, don't see the Townie energy as well.
Feels like he's going under the radar.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...whole-cake-island.45721/page-139#post-4586156

Seems like something from an opportunistic scum imho.

Two dayphases done, 70 odd posts and still being Null read by most.

If you wanted to be under the radar, with those numbers yea you are under the radar.

When you don't wanna throw your hat inside the ring and directly push someone.
This is like throwing shade w/o actually having the cojones to step up and call another out openly - or atleast that's what it feels to me.

He felt that you were possibly scum.
What did he do about it? Nothing.

What happened to this vote, pal?

Seems to me you just want a wagon to latch onto.

Did your scummates ping you in the scum chat about my attempt at CFD-ing you?

Can you share your full reads & thoughts? Have you caught up?
Who do you think is the optimum lynch rn?


Did you see anybody pushing Kerkovian with effort into it? Why don't you make a case on him and push him?

It just seems to me that you want to latch onto a wagon and get by this Phase. And you don't really care whether the town lynch is successful or a mislynch.

TAC? RippedOne?

MonochromeYoru is the way to go.

[vote lynch Yoru]

How about Yoru?

Kerk is another Midnight/Zolo. Vig material, not sure if lynching him here is the right move.

I feel a Yoru CFD though.

@Destroya @MUUGEN @Natalija where are you guys? Lol.

JG is poisoned, will die in 2 cycles if not healed.
Prof & Flowa want to lynch TAC.
TAC wants to lynch Flowa and thinks his wagon is pushed to save Cal.
Now i think the CFDs going in the direction of UwU.

@TheAncientCenturion what do you think of Cal atm? GTH what alignment would you throw him in?

Yeah.


Yea he claimed Pekoms with a Mirror role.


I agree. This lynch shouldn't be used to purge inactives.

You do realize that TAC tunneling someone who had >suspicious gameplay< with regards to Ekko's claim... doesn't make him scum motivated, yeah?

"If you wanna save Cal best chance is by voting his direct counter wagon"

Not saying u are scum, im saying that the play was ofcourse gonna bring scrutiny.

Man... Ekko shouldve rolled town.

[vote lynch Cal]

Make a difference of atleast 2/3 votes between the wagons. Vote Manip might be a thing

i think its too late for that. votes lock in around 5/6 mins.

8 - 8 I think... its either RNG or Vote Manip.
What a god awful EoD

@Fujishiro can you also give us the Final VC? Thanks!

This progression...

Did JG die of poison? Or was she taken out by scum?

Bcs why would she be taken out by scum if they had already poisoned her?

I think i have a live one based on my action in N2, i think it stopped Mafia kill. Wont reveal the who & what until i get more clarity.

Ur masons with JG yea? Can you confirm that she was dead due to Poison?

Did 2 cycles mean D2 & N2?

Why would Mafia kill someone using their Faction Kill when they've already poisoned them?

There's far better options when it comes to motive/threadplay than JG tbh.

@MitchMatch pls tag me when u get more clarity from Fuji thanks!

Yea i will. Once i know for sure that JG died to poison and not to Faction Kill

Okay.

Its probably the Vig getting redirected i'd bet, aint no way scum use their FK to take out someone whose already dying.

@Destroya @MUUGEN i jailed Prof last NP.

[vote lynch @Dr_Professor83 ]

Ur still scum alright.

I just got a bigger fish to fry atm

Votes on Prof pls.

Why?

No.

But i dont think Mafia will target JG again after poisoning her. I bet its probably the Vig getting redirected.

If there were no Mafia kills last NP, then my Jail hit scum likely.

Im not sure this is a multiball tbh. But it could be possible with Germa 66 as 1 mafia and SHP as the other.

Superroleblock & superprotect

Exactly. All actions at them get stopped and all actions they do also get stopped.

The Jail was on N2, not now. Prof is just offline lol

Though i will say, Perospero is a FAAAAAAAR better fake claim than this.

I think he's an SBS only character.

I have no idea why they made toys for this bloke

Yea i shouldn't have claimed it.

Now that i had some time to think about it - Prof could've been town too and he could simply be the target of the Faction Kill which my jail stopped. I think i jumped the gun tbh.

Sure. But why?

Reads or Mechanical?

Kinda yea.

Upon re-reading the thread, i felt like this slot can solve a ton of other slots connected to it.

Link me the case on him.

But if u need a pressure vote then yea.

[vote lynch SakazOuki]

It wont make sense for Flowa to come out with her tracking result on SakazOuki to TAC if they are teammates.

Maybe for credit idk.

It's all a mystery to me too.
She was waiting for SakazOuki to show up in the thread.
Then after an interaction, she's convinced Saka is Town.

I'd like to hear that interaction/mechanics fully too; but they dont wanna talk about it...

It's all a mystery to me too.
She was waiting for SakazOuki to show up in the thread.
Then after an interaction, she's convinced Saka is Town.

I'd like to hear that interaction/mechanics fully too; but they dont wanna talk about it...

How so?

 

[Pot Goblin]

Spoiler: Conq Iso Part 2

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QUOTE="ConquistadoR, post: 4597524, member: 4695"]Rainbow list had 5 categories.

Town = 2
Town Lean = 9
Null = 5
Scum Lean = 3
Scum = 0

[/QUOTE]

Even then my friend, you've offered very little in that list tbh.

That list screams like you're struggling for content.

Yea i won't.

Yea.

You and Dest are town lock to me atp.
I can help with setting the targets too.

Yea i agree about Flower.

But im talking about Sakazouki and flower here.
If they two are teammates, it doesn't make sense for Flower to come out with her result in the thread and get info out of Sakaz the first thing in this dayphase.

Maybe it is a coordinated thing and both of them are helping their fake claims with their "results" since nothing happened to TAC

Thing is i know my role.
Prof claimed 3x.
Sakaz claimed 3x.

Muugen also claimed a role blocker.

That's too much.

.
But im willing to take a bet here unless both of them start looking horrible.

Yea. 2 Roleblockers, 1 rolecrusher and a jailor is too much.

By Drago.

But yea i remember that Konohamaru role

Thing is i know my role.
Prof claimed 3x.
Sakaz claimed 3x.

Muugen also claimed a role blocker.

That's too much.

Starting to think that Fuji didn't really give them Fake Claims.

Reloaded on N1?

Lets solve this game over Tea & Waifus now.

What is your opinion on his progression going from having Muugen & Dest as his strongest town reads and now calling them both scum for pushing him?

It depends on how a player plays or how much experience he has.
More common among Newbies.

I dont think SakazOuki is new to this. He has played before and has been a good player.
This is more like what Kerkovian does everytime he plays.

There is a difference here.

To Iso?
Yea sure.

You voted TAC last Day.


Then said these guys are your scum reads.

Then spent the entire day shading TAC & Pot.


And now, you say this once SakazOuki is damn near outed.

-----

Brother Pero, E aí?

Well for starters, he claimed Healer and since we already have a Poisoner here in the Mafia side, it's probably a guaranteed/unique role and he wasn't CC'd.
Even though his reads & gamesolving attempts feel iffy, i'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt as a Town.

What happened to your Muugen scum-read?
Can you drop a rainbow's list/reads on every player in the game?

I'd like to know your positions.

Making Bigu Mama and Katakuri as fake claims isn't like Fuji.

I'm not asking you to vote SakazOuki.

I'm asking you to explain how your read of Muugen progressed so far.

Before his claim - you had him as scum.
What do you think of him, now?

And i'd like your thoughts on the other players in the game too.

I had her as Town before, though i dont understand her defense of Sakaz.

Atleast tell me what is your read of Muugen then.

Yoru

Were you jailed?

dude...

While voting TAC first thing both those DayPhases.

Yoru.

I disagree on Pot. Lets wait for whether Ratchet to confirm whether the poison got healed or not.

In a game with Poisoner Mafia, the Town Healer is probably a guaranteed and Unique role. Pot's claim wasn't counter claimed - which makes me believe he's town.

@TheAncientCenturion have you refilled anyone so far?
If you have some shots left, I'd like a refill.

Aight, can you send one refill this way either this NP or next NP? Thanks!

Sure.

Lets solve this game over Teas and Waifus

I agree, Pot is more likely than not town.

Yoru.

Kerk's gameplay is NAI as far as im concerned. The dude comes out and calls everyone who scum reads that slot as scum, this is standard gameplay accross multiple games.

Ratchet's gameplay is what determines the slot.

I thought he was scum.

I didnt like his posts and he felt scummy to me. Posted about that multiple times before.

At a party. Ill be back in an hour.

Destroya power wolfing is very much possible.
We've only been mislynching Townies so far after Ekko's lynch which is NAI.

I targeted you.
What happened though?
What did you do last night?

Any particular reason behind that target selection?

Kiku was Bodyguard and she's dead. Not sure if there are other protect roles.

Melkor are you town?

I will reveal when the time is right.

Did anything happen to you last NP?

@TheAncientCenturion i'd like refills por favor.

Melkor being given a casual Strong Town read by Cake still pings me.

Yeah.

Think we can proceed with a disconnected Mafia theory.

Scum shading.

Tac refilled Muugen & Lanji too said he's good. He's town and scum are jumping on the next easiest mislynch.

?

I didnt get any notif last NP

@TheAncientCenturion i havent been creamed but i did get the refill. Fuji just confirmed it. Thanks!

I guess the "cream" part is T Pein's ability. Matches with Opera.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...whole-cake-island.45721/page-337#post-4607575

This post is money.

He claimed X-shot destroyer and Charlotte Opera i think.

Pot healed Ratchet though.

Time to let go of Pot. He's town.

Whats pinging me is how with zero ability or flavor or result claims, Cake gives a Town read to Melkor.

Not sure.
Have him on town lean as of now.

Dont push him too much, he'll use a truth tell next.

Which makes me think that Scum are indeed disconnected.

Else its too easy to coordinate and nab a refill. The redirector probably has no idea who his scummates are.

Looking at that with my notes, its easy to see whats up. Ill post more omw back

@Natalija @TheAncientCenturion @LANJI CUCKSMOKE @Dr_Professor83 @Destroya @Ratchet


Flower, Kagu, Mitch, Natalija are self explanatory town reads.

Melkor and Watson stick out like a sore thumb among that group.
Both haven't claimed abilities, flavor or results.
But somehow get a TOWN SOLID read.


Muugen/LANJI & Pot are again self explanatory Town leans.
Can atleast wrap my head around X's position here because of his gameplay in Ekko's lynch and claim but this post was before the claim.
No clue what Yoru did to get this position too.

What's even more surprising is how Melkor & Watson are placed higher on the Town pecking order than Muugen/LANJI (the JoAT) and Pot (the Unique Healer with Poisoner confirmed).

I have no clue what either of them have contributed to get placed this high on Cake's list.


Meh read.
uWu/Rej slot is null to me too & probably to everyone.


TAC, Prof are Town.
Reloaded is hard to read, but likely town given how he's willing to Amp.

Not sure about Ratchet - gut feeling says he's town and I'm not sure what to think of TPein.

Cake putting you as Town Solid makes you look better?

Why wouldn't she want to pocket Muugen/LANJI then?
They're literally JoAT and a Vig.

Yet for some reason, you're placed even higher on the Townie slots despite Muugen claiming flavor, abilities & results while we have nothing from you yet.

Giving people town leans to pocket them is one thing, placing them alongside townlocks like Kagu, Mitch and Flower is another thing.

Why should i tell it now?

Yea because i'd like to hold it back just in case someone ends up claiming that character.
I've revealed all info that is relevant in my role. Not gonna reveal flavor unless it's absolutely necessary.

@Lord Melkor time to claim, por favor.
Ability, Flavor and Results along with the thought process behind target selection.

It's still time to claim anyway.
You're next on the chopping block as far as im concerned.

No point in holding back every info at D5.

ik it's still an hour away but Happy birthday! Hope you have a nice day and an amazing year ahead.

There is no way we have 2 town doctors/healers.

No.

But i like the train of thought.

Rej was RC'd last NP and we didn't see anyone being poisoned.

@Lord Melkor claim.
I've already told you i dont think you're town.
We can either do this the easy way or the hard way.

There isn't an extra blocked though.

Kiku flipped Bodyguard (Compote), Rej claimed Oven (backup BG).
Pot is proven Healer (Smoothie), Watson claimed Doc (Cracker).
SakazOuki flipped Counter (Roleblock) & you claimed Perospero (Rolecrush).
I'm a Jailor while Muugen/LANJI are more like JoAT.

*blocker

Imagine the scenes when Melkor's "given fake claim" is another blocker & scum are stalling to make up another fake claim

@Natalija @Dr_Professor83 @Destroya what do you guys think of Yoru?

Vig him tonight. If he survives we lynch him tomorrow, else it's Melkor.
Send RBs, RCs and jails between Melkor & Dest.
Send Tpein's x shot removal this way too.

Watson can choose b/w healing you this phase or being treated as scum from the next.

This is town lock Prof. This is the paranoia that i've been missing so far.

Either you're town or Watson is.
I refuse to believe there are two town doctors in the game.
Time to fess up, Pot.

Since you used your truth tell :)

Melkor seems to be the more scummier one so far.
Want to take a bet on watson being town/tony tony pot being scum angle.

Lets test it based on whether prof dies or not.
Let watson heal prof this NP.

I tagged you in a post earlier, talking about the Melkor case.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...whole-cake-island.45721/page-370#post-4610396

Its based on one of CakeWalkers read lists yesterday before things went to shit.

Truth tell here we go.

Your lie detect, yea? I remember.

I'm just posting about his paranoia.

Oh... okay my bad.

That's mostly from reading Nat as solid Town and going off of her case.

I do agree with what she said about lynches & actions - i'm just trying to see if better options to solve are possible.

My bad, i misunderstood your claim.

[vote lynch Rej]

Oven & Daifuku are both fake claims. Sad.

@Dr_Professor83 who did you rc last night? Also help me get a claim out of Melkor, he hasn't said anything so far.

Stop raging over a joke about truth tells.

I said even last DP that you powerwolfing this game is very much possible.
I'm not down to lynch you this DP itself, but i'm down to explore the option that you are scum.

This one's my bad, i misunderstood her claim.

The first mafia game i ever played - the JJBA game, me and Prof got played like a fiddle by Fuji, Adam and Dest powerwolfing by being Yoshikage Kira's dad.

The possibility that he can be powerwolfing the entire game is almost like a paranoia at this point whenever i'm playing a game with Dest.

Wait did i miss something?
Did someone catch him mechanically?

Says the Teacher's pet

You havent been alone in this since D1 tbh.

Rej was RC'd by Prof on N3 and we had zero poisoned characters on D4.
Nobody RB'd or RC'd him on N4 and voila, Prof got poisoned.

What do you guys think of Melkor's claim?

Im not buying it tbh.

@Dr. Watson full claim please

Yeah.
A post death role sounds a lot convenient for someone who hasn't claimed anything so far.

Its funny how paranoid @Dr_Professor83 is about Rej when his abilities are what allowed us to catch him in the first place

Believe, brother. Believe.

I'm going towards The Mother.

@T-Pein™ you too.
If you got shots left, don't hold back.
Don't shoot TAC, shoot Melkor or Dr. Watson.

We know for a fact Rej is the poisoner because Prof RC'd him on N3 and there was nobody poisoned on D4.
Meanwhile, nobody RB'd or RC'd him on N4 and there is Prof poisoned D5.

Rej is the Poisoner, move on.

————

Because (1) I'm not the one under pressure here and (2) what does it matter which son/daughter of BMP i am?
I gave my entire ability & results already.
Does the name of my role change or affect anything? No.

No. It's a night action.

[vote lynch Watson]

After this we go to Dest & Melkor

Havent got notif yet

Watson is scum.
Last DP they claimed Indie to lynch bait us away from Rej (Luffy)

1- @Mr. Reloaded - does amps
2- @Kiku - Charlotte Compote, BodyGuard Dead N1
3- @SakazOuki - Charlotte Counter, RB x3, Lynched D3
4- @Lord Melkor -
5- @MitchMatch - Charlotte Joscarpone - Masons
6- @Dr_Professor83 - Charlotte Perospero - 2x Rolecrusher, Died N5
7- @Pot Goblin - Charlotte Smoothie, 2x Healer
8- @Ratchet - Charlotte Moscato, 3x Odd Night watcher, Died N5
9- @Dr. Watson - Open Scumming.
10- @TheAncientCenturion - Streusen - 3x Refill
11- @Destroya - Charlotte Linlin, 1x LieDetect & 1x BP
12- @Ekkologix - Vinsmoke Sanji, Lynched D1
13- @Joygirl - Charlotte Mascarpone - Masons. Killed N2.
14- @T-Pein™ - Charlotte Opera - destroy X shots
15- @MonochromeYoru - Redirector
16- @Rej - Monkey D. Luffy, God Father Lynched D5
17- @Natalija - Bobbins, Vanilla
18- @Kagu Nyan - Charlotte Pudding, Innocent Child
19- @SamosaSombrero - Nami, Modkilled D4
20- @ConquistadoR - Jailor
21- @RippedCal - Pekoms, Lynched D2
22- @Peroroncino - Charlotte Brulee, Commuter, Died N3
23- @LANJI CUCKSMOKE - Charlotte Katakuri, Jack of All Trades
24- @Flower - Charlotte Flampe Tracker x4, Killed N4

Also @TheAncientCenturion i didn't get creamed last NP.

How?

You got it.
Let's plan that accordingly.

Your Redirect isn't proven mechanically anywhere.
Why should i believe you are the Town redirector first?

Because you claimed so?
Though tbf, you're the best looking slot out of Dest, Watson and Melkor from my POV - ill give you that much.

I agree that he's the best looking slot out of the 4 left to clear and that he may be a fresh Townie, just learning to spread his Mafia wings.

But he's still not proven Town in my eyes, not yet.

What do you think is the best order?
Imo, we go Watson -> Dest -> Melkor.

I targeted the Mother last NP.
Let me know who to target this Phase and i'll do so.

@TheAncientCenturion you still have refills or are you out? I didn't get yours last NP.

So Prof died from Poison and i guess Ratchet was FK.

I agree.

But i think we should go Dest -> Watson.
Melkor & Yoru can be resolved after that.
Because, we already flipped 3 Scum & it can just be 5 Mafia too.

Also discovered some info from Fuji's DR game.

There he gave one each of Tracker/Role Cop, Strongman/Bullet Proof/Redirector (GF), Ninja/Roleblocker, Poisoner/Strongman

Out of the flips we have so far - we have =

Role Cop (Sanji), Redirector (Nami), Roleblocked (Luffy), Poisoner ( ? ), Busdriver ( ? )
Tracker (Sanji), Strongman + GF (Luffy), Ninja (?), x-shot Crush (Nami), ??? ( )

We're probably left with Ninja/Poisoner & (the rest is speculation) a Busdriver with some other ability.

This thing is a bit weird now.

I had used up all of my

I agree.

[vote lynch Dest]

This thing is a bit weird now.

I had used up all of my shots by last night.

The problem is once TAC told me i was his target, i asked Fooj about the Notif and Fuji said No.

Now Fuji tells me i still have a shot left.

I'm on phone.
It's a formatting error for a message i wanted to post.

@TheAncientCenturion thoughts?

Like is you refill a night action which acts during the day phase?

Hider my bad.

It's been clarified by Fuji & TAC.

I was expecting a refill in the NP & not in the next DP.
And Fuji informed me very early on last DP and took a while this DP.

It's a non-issue.

She's vanilla...

@Natalija i doubt Pein is scum here, when we already flipped the scum X-shot Crusher in Nami.

But ofcourse, hitting TAC & the claimed Vanilla is pretty horrendous choice of actions.

@Natalija what if we lynch Melkor and force him to take out Dest too with the lynch?
He's the Revenger right?

If he's town - we flip Dest.
If he's scum - we flip him first.

Wait. Did you target Watson or Nat?

If you got juice left in the tank, send one towards Watson/Melkor/Dest this NP.
Please my man, that's the PoE.

I'm just proposing this because we get to resolve two "unconfirmed" slots.

If Melkor & Dest both are scum, we got one already.
If Melkor is actually Town, we get Dest too and info then we look at Watson.

If a Revenger is actually in the game, I am pretty sure this is why this role is given.
To use the spare kill to resolve slots.

@LANJI CUCKSMOKE @Pot Goblin @TheAncientCenturion @Mr. Reloaded @Kagu Nyan @MitchMatch what do you guys think?

Lynch Melkor.

If he's scum, we got one already.
If he's town and a Revenger, ask him to send a shot towards Dest.
That way we get value out of the flip.

We get to resolve two unknown slots.
Then we can look at Watson.

@Lord Melkor your claim is looking more and more shaky.

I'm just thinking about it because we atleast know for a fact that Melkor is scum or not this way when we flip him.

And with BulletProof Luffy flipping, remaining scum are free to be shot at.

Today we had no claims of Poison and I jailed Dest last NP.
So Melkor or Watson are likely the BD?

We flip one of them, i'll target the other.

Lynch Melkor.
Ask him to vig Watson if he's town.

We resolve two slots with a single DP.
We know Watson is scum. We don't know Melkor's slot so we can resolve it this way.

Also scum were offering Watson as a lynchbait so she's out of shots likely.

We go all in.

@LANJI CUCKSMOKE @TheAncientCenturion you guys in?

[vote lynch Melkor]

Likely not possible i think.

Also ask him whether your kill can be tampered with

@Natalija i doubt Pein is scum here, when we already flipped the scum X-shot Crusher in Nami.

Huh?

I was trying to hit the Poisoner.

I jailed Melkor last NP, didnt stop Poisoner.
So i tested it out on Dest. Turns out there are no one poisoned.

We will wait and see.

Though im pretty sure LANJI or myself are better Poison targets than the IC & a Vanilla

What if the Indie is Sanji here?

In his DR game Scum Pica was the Poisoner

 

[Pot Goblin]

Spoiler: Conq Iso Part 3

Does that check out with one night where we didn't have anyone poisoned?
Is that the same night where Prof RC'd Rej?

I'm not here to debate setups tbh.

We are trying to come to a conclusion based on the info we have.
Which incriminates you at this point.
Rej was RC'd by Prof on N3 and we had zero poisoned characters on D4.
Same Night Muugen/LANJI RB'd you.

Last Night i jail you.
And today there is no one Poisoned.

He did it N3.
We all thought Rej was the Poisoner.
Turns out we landed Luffy, we were lucky even though we were wrong about the Poisoner.

Which night did you or Muugen RB Dest?
My targets are Prof (N2), Yoru (N3), Melkor (N4), Dest (N5).

In DR setup, the Poisoner didn't have x-shots. It was like Sanji's Flavor Cop in this game.

On D5, Prof was poisoned...

We lynch Melkor.

Vig Dest & Watson.

He healed Ratchet, no?

Puts me to the area where i can take a bet on it for now.

Watson is scum for sure. The way i see it, lynching Watson is the "safest option" meanwhile lynching Melkor is like a "slightly risky" option because we get to resolve his slot & nail Watson if he's really town.

Other PoE is Dest. We can see the Pot scum healer theory later on, if we don't finish it this NP itself.

Since out of you, me, Nat, Kagu, Loaded, Mitch, TAC.
It won't be long before we catch Pot if he's actually scum.

So the safer option then.

I dont mind lynching Watson first.

I posted it right there, read the post you quoted.

Because it allows us to resolve 2 slots instead of just one and we're getting atleast One Scum lynched.

It's a possibility for sure.
If this entire Poison is used as a 5D chess move to get you Town Cred as a Scum Healer.

Not calling you scum, but just saying that it's definitely a possibility.
You get Townie Points for now @Pot Goblin

Was placed as a "Strong Town" slot by Cake even before he had contributed anything of note to the game - when he hadnt revealed Flavor or Ability or Result.
That pinged me right after Cake's flip.

He has done little to convince me otherwise after that and his Claim feels too fake to me, a very convenient post Death role for Scum to claim.

If he's scum, i dont think he'd able to kill from the Grave.
An option would be to lynch him and ask him to shoot Dest if in the offchance Melkor is actually town.

Who do you think are scum this game?
Can you give your reads of each player left alive please?

The fuck does a read on a slot have to do with my ability usage?
Why are you fishing for my ability usage using Watson's lynch which literally everyone was in favor of?


Why should i rethink the PoE because of a slot who played (with all due respect) horribly?
Late Doctor claim with no actions after Multiple Days when pushed, then adds a Lynch Bait Indie claim and then tanks a Amped Vig Shot and comes on the last day just to troll?

That slot turning out to be a Town who played horribly doesn't mean i should rethink the PoE and other slots who are still up in the air in it.

Like you have any Town cred, heck you were literally asking us to Lynch Watson if we're that sure that she was scum and are now pinning it on us.

You reek lol there is no way you are town this game, time to see your flip.

Dude, i know that. Trust me - if such a slot is being pushed i won't keep quiet.

Let me handle it, i ain't gonna say anything now.

Why are you fishing for my ability usage?
Worried that you and your scummates don't know if I'm exhausted or have shots left?


Loool okay. That wasn't what that post said but go off.

This has been a dialogue ever since Melkor claimed that he can send off a shot when he dies/gets lynched.
It has been going on for 2+ Dayphases now, ever since Cake flipped.

Yet Dest is blaming me for proposing the same thing that i proposed last DP, that Prof proposed on Day 5

If i had a feeling that I hit scum - yes, I claimed.

Knowing about my ability usage isn't going to clear much.
Scum need to know that because they are not sure whether i still have shots or not.

I think it's for the best if i reveal nothing.

Did you have an issue with it when me and Prof did it on D5?
Did you have an issue with it when me and Nat were thinking about it on D6?

This entire shading reeks of scum trying to get Townies mislynched.

Yep that's why i came of my own volition and claimed it for the past 5 days or so.
Makes sense lmfao.

Yet you said nothing for the past 2 days when others did.

Why do you have a problem now? Fancy another misslynch with your shading?

Because im not gonna give info out when it doesnt warrant that.

No problem, cuz we're lynching Dest. Time to get on it.

So? I should reveal what i did now?

What is that gonna do? Magically clear a slot which everyone is sure is Scum?

Unless that slot is in danger of being lynched or pushed... why should i reveal it?

I dont need to be a cop to know that you're scum.

Just reading the thread is enough.

I dont have to explain anything, really.

If youre still alive after this DP, you can be sure that im jailing you though.

#TwORoLeBlOcKeRs

Yea continue throwing shade.

No one's buying it thouhh

If a slot that i can clear is indeed in trouble, i will ofcourse clarify. I wont gamethrow.

Now pls stop fishing.

So you dont care about the direction i tell you to look in PoE.
You just want my ability usage out now.

Noted.

You dont care about where i tell you to look at.

You just wanna know whether i used it or not.

She's Town.

You've been shading her for multiple days now. And it reeks.

Lol how am i gonna get caught in a lie.

This is a joke.

And she aint one.

While you are.

Yea sure.

When our pile left is an IC, 1 Vanilla, 2 more turned Vanillas in Pot & Charlie & TAC, 1 Revenger claim, 1 Redirector, 1 shot destroyer and 1 bullet proof lie detect with no shots left.

Like lol. Nice attempt though.

ImAgInE yOu hAd a bRaIn aNd cOuLd fIgUrE tHiS oUt yOuRsElF.

Because the only side which will gain from my info are scum.

Unless that slot is in danger, i have no reason to come and say it.

Now pls fuck off.

He's scum. He needs to go.

Not when we're lynching you this DP

Lanji cannot kill last NP.
Since it was even NP and he could only use them in odd Nights

I literally announced in the thread the previous DP that ill be going for the Mother.


Pray tell, lol.
What "info" could that possibly provide, lmao?

That would suddenly change things like 0 -> 100.

I'm town, you're scum. And we're gonna flip you today.

I just don't wanna reveal anything about that.
I think it's best if we keep scum guessing - whether i still have a shot or did i use it all up last NP.

I have written the truth in my will to Fuji (not sure if it's allowed this game though) and if i'm alive next DP - i'll clarify it myself. @Natalija

@Destroya @Lord Melkor @Pot Goblin get ready for the Jail

I jailed Dest on N5, not last NP.

Yea i jailed The Mother on N5 as i told in the thread openly on D5.

Not sure if Fuji's gonna allow that.
But i sent him one anyway.

You are correct.
I am MontDor.

Having 2x Kills every NP & a Poison for a single team is very broken though.

I'm starting to think we have an Indie scum who killed last NP & Mafia scum who Poisoned & killed last NP.

Speaking of Pot, what do you think of his sudden interest in my ability usage?
Man dropped a wallie with posts from my previous DP to make a case on me today.
A distinct difference compared to his usual posts, don't you think?

This is the biggest red flag.

Shading townies over Watsons flip when everyone of yall would lynch a slot for 1/10th Watson had going against her & Dest doing it even in this very game.

Dude do you understand how a bluff works?

Did i or did i not use my ability last NP?
Thats the entire question i want scum to think.

It's simple stuff.

He could've bussed Dest today but he chose the wrong option thinking Town will buy their case on me.

?

Like what?

Expect a Jail tonight, im coming for you Tony

Yea sure lol.

"hE's AfRaId Of ReVeAliNg hIs HaNdS bEcAuSe He'Ll bE CauGhT bY VaNiLLa ToWn"

"ImAgInE iF YoU aRe SmArT EnOuGh To FiGuRe ThIs OuT YoUrSeLf"

Yes I am shit at this game.
We're gonna lynch you today.

Blame the heavens for it, i cba

RinRin v. Law/Kidd type beat.

I'm jailing your protege - Tony Tony Pot tonight.

Yes which is why im jailing your protege tonight.

You arent town lol.

Seethe.

Nat's Town.

Sure

Yeah you're full of shit lol

Spare me the sermons and start shitposting before your impending flip.

The BPx1, Lie detect is probably Rej's fake claim which Dest has been living off of.

Scum but not the same alignment as Dest & the Rabbit.

Nat aint scum. While you just outed yourself.

Cry about it.

Nat is Town. Im sure of it to the point where i can die on that hill.

@TheAncientCenturion @Kagu Nyan @MonochromeYoru @Charlie @T-Pein™ dont believe this "Nat ist Indie" nonsense.

She's Town.

Sure pal.

We are preparing the Gallows for you.
Have a nice trip to Death chat.

Keep malding that you cant drag Nat down with you

Pot thinks he's slick lmaoo

What do you expect me to say when a slot came out and claimed Indie right when we were lynching Luffy? And then tanked an Amped Vig shot?

And then ended up flipping Town.

Sure.
Still have a nice trip to the Gallows.

Man talks all the shit in the world but is offended when you give it back lmao

It isnt changing anything.
Move on.

Nat is Town.

[vote end day]

Charlie is a beautiful name. I never said that.

Why do you think Nat's BP though? :zorothink:

Be serious.

There is no way Ekko and You are flavor cops.

And you think she's responsible for one kill last NP?

Now im super sure that Nat is town. Thanks

???

How am i covering for Night Killers though?

Ok fuck it.
Ive reaped enough rewards for with holding info.
Dest and Pot outing themselves is more than enough.

I jailed Nat. She's Town. Im vanilla now.

Your next on the chopping block.
Say your prayers.

Mainly because i was paranoid that you were powerwolfing.

But it didnt stop shit. And Dest trying to convince everyone that you are indie is more than enough proof that you are Town.

Im pretty sure i ended up doing so.
Dest claims your BP but odds are you were under my jail.

By you and your scum chat

Yea the slot that you were crying to me to jail this DP.

I know that slot is 100% Town

Because i thought Lanji had a shot tonight. Only realized that he cannot when he flipped

Why would i risk jailing the same target as Lanji?

I just looked at the rest and chose Nat because i was kind of worried that she was Power wolfing too

I thought Lanji had a shot.

I was sure Nat was Town before Watson flipped. Then i wasnt sure what to think so i decided to go ahead and check it for myself.

No ones buying this shit. Get lynched lmao

Never said that

Lol what?

I was afraid i would stop Lanji's shot on Melkor or Dest.

I wanted to check Nat too and i did. Turns out she is Town. Stop twisting my words, its irritating.

Something you were literally telling me to do earlier this phase.



I atleast solved Nat's slot for sure now.

You are literally open scumming atp

Lool the last cries of a scum on the way to get lynched.

Yes.

Because i wanted to see whether she was scum or not. I was kind of in limbo after Wtasons flip, didnt wanna get Power wolfed.

Turns out shes town, which i have been screaming for the past day.

Stop lying lmao

You're literally voting a town role over someone who admitted in the thread that theyre scum.

Idc what you say.

I did what felt right to me. You can continue to cry about it

What proved her as Vanilla town?
You were literally claiming that shes indie this dayphase moron.

I knew you were bullshitting today though because i saw through all of that.

I didnt hit TAC though. Ive had him as town since d1.

Because you literally have nothing.

You and Pot have been making a mountain out of a molehill this entire DP while claiming Nat is scum. Dont act like saints now.

If Town lets Dest survive this DP then they deserve to lose.

Yes and coincidentally D4 is the only phase there was no poisoned players.

What would you do in that position?

I decided to clear Nat myself and i did. She's Town so ive been 100% about it this entire DP.

I dont understand what you're saying. Lemme atleast clarify the actions i did, can you ask this again?

I had her as a town read, a solid town read. Though i wanted to rule the possibility that she was powerwolfing out. Hence i took action.

This DP, i knew she was town but i didnt want to reveal my result early.

Trying so hard to save your scummate instead of bussing Dest.

Its amazing Im moved to tears by this performance

Because yea, she was cleared by me but not exactly based on Flowa alone.

I just didnt wanna reveal it earlier. Check all of my posts this phase, i have been screaming Nat is town.

Because

(1) i thought Lanji had a shot and i didnt wanna mess with his actions at (Dest or you)

(2) I had a fear that Nat was power wolfing, and i wanted to clear that. Now im sure she's Town.

Dont think i did.

That was paranoia mostly from Watson flipping town. I just ended up checking that.

How??

I didnt know that he was only odd night Vig

I wasnt aware of that. Until he flipped.

As i said, he's started openly scumming.

Pot's tryna move mountains to save Dest now

Pulled a Watson


We'll see that when we flip you

Dest on ignore. Life's bliss

[vote lynch Pot Goblin]

I was Vanilla Last DP LMFAOOOO

Yes. Vote him.

You defended Dest for an entire day and he flipped as Scum.

Just vote him. He's 100% Non Town.

There were literally just TWO people supporting Dest the entire last dayphase.
One was you and the other was Charlie who literally started playing last Day Phase.

I was right on the money with Dest being scum, right on the money with Nat being Town.
Nat & TAC both wanted you lynched next too.

I'm sure that you're gonna flip Tony Tony Chopper, a Scum Healer.

@Kagu Nyan @Charlie @MonochromeYoru @T-Pein™ @Lord Melkor it's time to vote up @Pot Goblin

Pot literally showed you @Charlie that Dest was Open Scumming.
He then switched onto me in a last minute attempt to save Dest.

He was literally open scumming Last DP. Time to get his lynch.

Regardless of my read on you, with this I've always 100% been with you.
It's never good to end day phase - since people are in different time zones and need time to read.

 

[Pot Goblin]

Spoiler: Conq Iso Part 2

—————
QUOTE="ConquistadoR, post: 4597524, member: 4695"]Rainbow list had 5 categories.

Town = 2
Town Lean = 9
Null = 5
Scum Lean = 3
Scum = 0

Spoiler: Conq Iso Part 2

————

[/QUOTE]
Fellas I posted Conq's full iso here
Once again I recommend a read through
Let's get it fellas

@Lord Melkor
@Charlie
@T-Pein™
@MonochromeYoru
@Kagu Nyan

 

[Pot Goblin]

Pot literally showed you @Charlie that Dest was Open Scumming.
He then switched onto me in a last minute attempt to save Dest.

He was literally open scumming Last DP. Time to get his lynch.

@Charlie keep in mind that Dest was my town read so I had reason to believe he was truly pulling a Watson there which he did claim if you read back

Gotta play fishy by cutting out context I see

 

[Pot Goblin]

There were literally just TWO people supporting Dest the entire last dayphase.
One was you and the other was Charlie who literally started playing last Day Phase.

I was right on the money with Dest being scum, right on the money with Nat being Town.
Nat & TAC both wanted you lynched next too.

I'm sure that you're gonna flip Tony Tony Chopper, a Scum Healer.

@Kagu Nyan @Charlie @MonochromeYoru @T-Pein™ @Lord Melkor it's time to vote up @Pot Goblin

Not impressive things to be on the money on ngl
Wasn't Nat a pretty universal town read this whole game?
Makes that jail use even worse imo

And someone who is town confirmed agreed with me idk how that looks bad
Charlie is a smart player, even if he was behind it says a lot how bad you looked to him

 

[ConquistadoR]

Fellas I posted Conq's full iso here
Once again I recommend a read through
Let's get it fellas

You didn't post a case on me.
You just posted all 400 of my posts this game.

You know why?

Because you were literally having Null Reads until Last Day Phase, except when your scum buddy Dest was in trouble

 

[ConquistadoR]

Not impressive things to be on the money on ngl

After spending an Entire Day phase convincing others than Dest was Town & I am scum?

 

[Pot Goblin]

You didn't post a case on me.
You just posted all 400 of my posts this game.

You know why?

Because you were literally having Null Reads until Last Day Phase, except when your scum buddy Dest was in trouble

It's an iso for fellas to read
Ignoring my previous point btw

After spending an Entire Day phase convincing others than Dest was Town & I am scum?

Everyone makes mistakes sometimes
Yours is tusslin with me
I will be on the money about you as town

 

[ConquistadoR]

Wasn't Nat a pretty universal town read this whole game?

Yea and you aren't convincing anyone that being afraid of her possibly powerwolfing this game is "fake" paranoia.
Not when you had a read like this about her, not so long ago.

Natalija - Really not a fan of the play these past couple DPs. Feels like a lot of shading and discrediting I think there is wolf potential here. If we actually did that thunderdome I'd vote her.

And someone who is town confirmed agreed with me idk how that looks bad

Someone who literally has read a single day worth of content on a game in D8, someone who -just- subbed in on D7 lol.

 

[Pot Goblin]

Yea and you aren't convincing anyone that being afraid of her possibly powerwolfing this game is "fake" paranoia.
Not when you had a read like this about her, not so long ago.



Someone who literally has read a single day worth of content on a game in D8, someone who -just- subbed in on D7 lol.

The second I found out Fooj did the 1 vanilla in Dressrosa I town locked her

Cutting out context again btw