General & Others One Piece's "decline" in sales

#22
Its inevitable that after 20+ years of serialization, the manga loses sales over time. That's just how the product life cycle works. One Piece is a manga aimed mainly at adolescent boys. As time passes, older fans will drop the series as they will find it harder to connect to, since its not their age demographic.

However, due to one piece's enormous length, new fans will be intimidated to even give it a try. Many people are hesitant to pick up one piece for this exact reason. I don't think the quality has really dropped(except for WCI, which imo was just a bad arc), One piece is just on the decline of its product cycle.

Which is why I think its more likely than not that OP will end in the next 5 years. There's only so much Oda can crank out of this. I think things will be becoming much more fast paced after this with arcs having less buildup and more fights.
 
#23
Its inevitable that after 20+ years of serialization, the manga loses sales over time. That's just how the product life cycle works. One Piece is a manga aimed mainly at adolescent boys. As time passes, older fans will drop the series as they will find it harder to connect to, since its not their age demographic.

However, due to one piece's enormous length, new fans will be intimidated to even give it a try. Many people are hesitant to pick up one piece for this exact reason. I don't think the quality has really dropped(except for WCI, which imo was just a bad arc), One piece is just on the decline of its product cycle.

Which is why I think its more likely than not that OP will end in the next 5 years. There's only so much Oda can crank out of this. I think things will be becoming much more fast paced after this with arcs having less buildup and more fights.
Wrong, two y ago it was solid Number 1, Wano just sux that's it
 

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#26
Problem OP has it that Oda uses the same formula over and over, arcs are being repeated with just different chatacters.

Meanwhile it is obvious has some serious panneling issue bcs he wants to cram in as much as he can cause he has so much to tell

Normally in those situatins you cut stuff out. Some stuff have to go on chopping block. But Oda doesnt do that.

Did we really need that much Wano civilian plot? We know Wano is in shit because of Kaido. We know Dressrosa was in shit bcs of Kaido, same as PH and Zou. Everything that led so far was to show just how big of a piece of shit Kaido is... we didnt really need that much focus on Wano citizens

Wano obviosuly has some serious hick ups. And it is obvious Oda is either too dumb or too stubborn to change.

Meanwhile KnY, JJK, MHA and other new age stuff dare to be different and that pays off.
 
#28
Gotta also look at how people are consuming things nowadays compared to 10 to 15 years ago. Its the same with TV ratings. People have dropped cable or watch stuff on DVR or IPTV which factors into it. Not many people buy volumes like before. We have apps like shonen jump that makes 3 recent chapters free. Theres shueisha app as well. People actually pay 5 or 6 bucks and they have a completely open catalog of manga to read on mobile devices or pc. Also all the pirated sites with fan translations. Many people already know about all of this so theres no chance that One Piece will ever reach those numbers again. Different world now.
 
#30
Gotta also look at how people are consuming things nowadays compared to 10 to 15 years ago. Its the same with TV ratings. People have dropped cable or watch stuff on DVR or IPTV which factors into it. Not many people buy volumes like before. We have apps like shonen jump that makes 3 recent chapters free. Theres shueisha app as well. People actually pay 5 or 6 bucks and they have a completely open catalog of manga to read on mobile devices or pc. Also all the pirated sites with fan translations. Many people already know about all of this so theres no chance that One Piece will ever reach those numbers again. Different world now.
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
Ye wano has been disappointing but so far its been the best major arc of the ts. I know that isn't saying much
What exactly you called best there?
Plot? Garbage
Why?
Cmmon people compare Impel Down prison with Kaido prison
You don't feel danger at all whole arc
Everything turned into joke.
Every one was clowned.
Like why you have to feel anything, when Last Raid Boss of arc was clowned by low lvls?
More to this plot repeat itself all time: another princess, another girl in disaster that need be saved, anothet evil tyrant.
But know why that repeating worked before? Case people love Straw Hats, loved their intetactions. But everything turned into joke, no development for SH, who now possess roles old furniture. More to that instead of showing people SH author skips everything important happening with em, replacing it with pure garbage events.


One Piece is not One Piece anymore.
 
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Herrera95

#31
Gotta also look at how people are consuming things nowadays compared to 10 to 15 years ago. Its the same with TV ratings. People have dropped cable or watch stuff on DVR or IPTV which factors into it. Not many people buy volumes like before. We have apps like shonen jump that makes 3 recent chapters free. Theres shueisha app as well. People actually pay 5 or 6 bucks and they have a completely open catalog of manga to read on mobile devices or pc. Also all the pirated sites with fan translations. Many people already know about all of this so theres no chance that One Piece will ever reach those numbers again. Different world now.
Yes but people are buying way more of KnY and JJK that they ever bought One Piece. So yes it is One Piece fault.
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Problem OP has it that Oda uses the same formula over and over, arcs are being repeated with just different chatacters.

Meanwhile it is obvious has some serious panneling issue bcs he wants to cram in as much as he can cause he has so much to tell

Normally in those situatins you cut stuff out. Some stuff have to go on chopping block. But Oda doesnt do that.

Did we really need that much Wano civilian plot? We know Wano is in shit because of Kaido. We know Dressrosa was in shit bcs of Kaido, same as PH and Zou. Everything that led so far was to show just how big of a piece of shit Kaido is... we didnt really need that much focus on Wano citizens

Wano obviosuly has some serious hick ups. And it is obvious Oda is either too dumb or too stubborn to change.

Meanwhile KnY, JJK, MHA and other new age stuff dare to be different and that pays off.
Hmm... not sure about that formula repeating being bad thing. And normally he does slighty different as he did at Arlong Park, Alabasta and Enies Lobby. None of them were bad arcs with basically the same formula.

I guess civillian plot were necessary, Yasue death was great. Dressrosa, PH and Zou has nothing to do with Kaido(unless Jack attack). I think the bad thing is Luffy losing time with fodders like that Sumo guy and the Beast Pirate with lion on stomach.

Wano arc could be speed up for sure. Act 3 I guess is being the biggest problem. When is this shit ending?
 
#32
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

What exactly you called best there?
Plot? Garbage
Why?
Cmmon people compare Impel Down prison with Kaido prison
You don't feel danger at all whole arc
Everything turned into joke.
Every one was clowned.
Like why you have to feel anything, when Last Raid Boss of arc was clowned by low lvls?
More to this plot repeat itself all time: another princess, another girl in disaster that need be saved, anothet evil tyrant.
But know why that repeating worked before? Case people love Straw Hats, loved their intetactions. But everything turned into joke, no development for SH, who now possess roles old furniture. More to that instead of showing people SH author skips everything important happening with em, replacing it with pure garbage events.


One Piece is not One Piece anymore.
I'm comparing wano to major ts arcs: Fishman island, punk hazard and wci. Im well aware of the many flaws in wano.
 
#33
Those are the numbers just in Japan? Would be cool to know the numbers for volumes worldwide.

But there's the question of tecnology too, i have buyed all volumes from 1 to 89, but since 89 i just buy the digital version, there's no reason to have a piace of papel anymore.
 
#35
I'm comparing wano to major ts arcs: Fishman island, punk hazard and wci. Im well aware of the many flaws in wano.
So you want to compare mid to real garbage? Do you saw how Doffy was clowned by Robin? Do you saw how Hody was clowned? Moria? Lucci? Eneru? Crocodile? Magellan?
Clown Raid boss is the thing that happened only in Wano and WCI. But the difference is that in WCI that happened only in the End, while all Wano characters was clowned from the begining to it end. THAT is something.
Compare this trash with Kaido, ecen him, clowned to enraged army that captured Luffy, while their boss was like godlike(till end, when she was weakened), like cmmon you need to be bling to not see it.
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you're not stupid when u say this to realize One Piece didnt drop that hard from 2 years sales wise , its new manga that risen up above it
FOOL
Lmao and that manga is mid at the best, while if Wano was at least WCI begining lvl it would be on first place
 
#36
I've said it before but Wano is simply a slump period for One piece. Its made worse by things being dragged out instead of wrapping them up quickly so we can move on to the more interesting things happening elsewhere. It may turn out to be wrong, but I really believe it's only uphill from here once Wano ends. The ensuing conflicts should be more personal and interesting.

The popularity poll seems to indicate it's felt throughout the fanbase as well. It's really telling when we have spent over 100 chapters and the highest ranked antagonist from the arc is Ulti at 56 because boobs. Dubious though the polls may be, it's telling that every major arc villain pre-time skip and even the other major post-skip arc ones are ranked higher than 1 of the 2 current main antagonists. The other one is only higher than Gecko Moria.
 
#37
I think the entire build up to Wano ended up a bit too much and the payoff for it is too slow. It definitely feels like a dragging scenario with set up.

Once Wano is wrapped up it will feel like a breath of fresh air for the series again because it's been emphasized so much.
 
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Herrera95

#39
I think the entire build up to Wano ended up a bit too much and the payoff for it is too slow. It definitely feels like a dragging scenario with set up.

Once Wano is wrapped up it will feel like a breath of fresh air for the series again because it's been emphasized so much.
"Once Wano is wrapped up" more than 100 chapters for that happening? Really? Everybody wants to Wano end already. Raid failed, let's move on. Raid was stupid since beginning. Worst time to ever attack Kaido.
 
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