Versus Battle Ouki Vs Moubu

Who Wins?

  • Ouki

    Votes: 13 38.2%
  • Moubu

    Votes: 21 61.8%

  • Total voters
    34
#44
Manu is a chump compared to Moubu and Kanmei, he just wasn’t strong enough to make Moubu go all out
And Man'U was going all out ?
Honestly Man'U dominated that fight. Even during the last exchange Moubu wanted to charge him bit Man'U smacked him back and ended the fight.

Moubu definitely underperformed imo and I think he's stronger for sure. I mean Shin struggles against Futei and Jyoukaryuu so it isn't a big deal.
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Man'U > Gaimou ANY DAY
 
#45
And Man'U was going all out ?
Honestly Man'U dominated that fight. Even during the last exchange Moubu wanted to charge him bit Man'U smacked him back and ended the fight.

Moubu definitely underperformed imo and I think he's stronger for sure. I mean Shin struggles against Futei and Jyoukaryuu so it isn't a big deal.
Moubu was just distracted by how ugly Man’U is
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#46
Probably more Top 3ish but I don't see him being the second strongest after Kouen tbh
Yeah top 3 seems fair

I don’t think he will be strongest either strength wise
He can be either 2nd or 3rd

I don’t think there will be 3 guys above him. It will be too much

Kouen
The traitor
Man U

will likely be Chu top 3 martially

and don’t forget that Man U is having his flame/spirit back, I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up to be even stronger when he returns
 
#49
Nah no way Chu has so many guys like him around
I was joking but it was still embarrassing for the man that beat Kanmei and calls himself the strongest in China to be bested by a random bum that was introduced 2 chapters earlier
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not even sure if Gaimou can beat Sento'Un.
You didn't just say that :beckmoji:
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#50
I don’t think there will be 3 guys above him. It will be too much

Kouen
The traitor
Man U

will likely be Chu top 3 martially
Oh my sweet summer child lol.

Man’U is just some random Chu Lord. No way he is top 3 martially for Chu lol. Man’U is Chu’s Rozo. Just some random territorial Lord and by no means a main Chu general.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Man’U was just barely top ten martially for Chu.
 
#52
There's not a man born from his mother that can daunt Moubu
Sure, I guess.

Probably more Top 3ish but I don't see him being the second strongest after Kouen tbh
idk why Kingdom fans continue to believe Kou En is going to be a martial type general when he was said have the longest service record in Chu in history 6 years ago.

Kou En is an old man sitting on the side lines, ready to take over whenever he damn well pleases.
 
#53
Sure, I guess.



idk why Kingdom fans continue to believe Kou En is going to be a martial type general when he was said have the longest service record in Chu in history 6 years ago.

Kou En is an old man sitting on the side lines, ready to take over whenever he damn well pleases.
Renpa is the perfect example why Old Age doesn't mean you're completely incapable martially.
 
#55
Oh my sweet summer child lol.

Man’U is just some random Chu Lord. No way he is top 3 martially for Chu lol. Man’U is Chu’s Rozo. Just some random territorial Lord and by no means a main Chu general.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Man’U was just barely top ten martially for Chu.
Man'U is literally the opposite of "some random Chu lord", he is an outsider that is so strong and troublesome to Chu, they gave him his own fief so he'd stop smashing their armies.

We've seen what "a main Chu general" looks like in Rin Bu Kun. He was formidable, but Tou nevertheless folded him like a cheap suit and kept it moving.

Man'U is levels is above Rin Bu Kun and is set up as a foil to Mou Bu. How much clearer does Hara need to be on who currently represent the best of Chu's martial ability?

The only Chu with a chance of surpassing Man'U are Kou Yoku and whoever Kou En's bruiser will be.
 
#56
Man'U is literally the opposite of "some random Chu lord", he is an outsider that is so strong and troublesome to Chu, they gave him his own fief so he'd stop smashing their armies.

We've seen what "a main Chu general" looks like in Rin Bu Kun. He was formidable, but Tou nevertheless folded him like a cheap suit and kept it moving.

Man'U is levels is above Rin Bu Kun and is set up as a foil to Mou Bu. How much clearer does Hara need to be on who currently represent the best of Chu's martial ability?

The only Chu with a chance of surpassing Man'U are Kou Yoku and whoever Kou En's bruiser will be.
Hara didn't make Karin as big as Kanmei as one of the few only females with such ridiculous size, having her showcase that strength by killing an officer with a kick just for her to not be relevant martially.

I agree that Man'U is one of the strongest Chu fighters but Lee isn't entirely wrong by calling Man'U the Rozo of Chu.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#57
Man'U is literally the opposite of "some random Chu lord", he is an outsider that is so strong and troublesome to Chu, they gave him hi
Man’U is definitionally some random Chu Lord. He is just one lord of one Chu territory. A strong Chu territory to be sure but otherwise irrelevant to Chu overall.

I love how hard you had to twist what happened between Chu and Man’U to make Man’U look far more important than he actually is lol. “MAN’U WAS SO POWERFUL THAT THEY GAVE HIM HIS OWN TERRITORY TO KEEP HIM IN CHECK” lmfao, bro please. They gave Man’U Juukou because it was far easier to have him defend that territory than it was for them to have to find someone else to do it lol. Chu has a dozen Juukou’s and a dozen Man’U’s lol.

I imagine Chu quite literally has dozens of generals like Sento Un or Gen’U. I think it was Rokuomi who even said you can’t cross the street in Chu without running into Generals who are former Great Generals/heads of state for destroyed states. If you think Man’U is unique in Chu, you are in for a rude awakening.

Like I said, Man’U is Chu’s Rozo. Just like how Rozo was a great warrior lord but ultimately Zhao had plenty of other warrior generals on his level or perhaps above, Man’U will be the same. An exceptional warrior to be sure but Chu will have several other warriors on his level or above.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#58
lol at comparing Man U to Rozo

Man U has 97 in STR : how many guys have that kind of stats ?

In Zhao : Houken Renpa and SBS likely (Zhao being the main antagonist in the show, not Chu)
In Wei : only Gaimou
In Qin : Moubu and Ouki
In Chu : Kanmei and Man U

97 is a fucking upper top tier stats in strength and only the cream of the crop of fighters can reach that

Man U also the leader of 4 mad lads who were all GG and main commander of their states and too much of a pain for Chu to handle.

and more importantly narratively wise Man U wasn’t a Rozo all. A strong guy that appear once just to be killed.

‘Man U had a backstory, Man U had a duel with Moubu and no one won. Man U had a character développement during the fight and had his fire growing back slowly. And Man U wasn’t killed and has yet to appear again in the story.

Man U has no a link to one of the main general of the story and the general who is linked to strength. And he was already quite strong but Man U with a reason to fight and weight will be even more monstrous.

you dream to think there are more than 3/4 guys stronger than him in whole Chu.

the man has the stats, the feats and the narrative
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#59
Man U has 97 in STR : how many guys have that kind of stats ?

In Zhao : Houken Renpa and SBS likely (Zhao being the main antagonist in the show, not Chu)
In Wei : only Gaimou
In Qin : Moubu and Ouki
And Chu literally encompasses all of these states’ land mass and then some. By your own math, there should be 6 other guys in the “97 strength stat range” in Chu and then some.

Unless you think Qin and Zhao just have magic strength water these guys are drinking from which Chu doesn’t have access to. Don’t make me laugh lol.

So even if we accept your obviously bullshit and drugged “but muh stats!!!” Argument, Chu should have at least 6 other guys in the 97 stat strength range based on their sheer size and land mass. If northern China can produce this amount of 97ers, why can’t southern China exactly? Lol
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#60
Unless you think Qin and Zhao just have magic strength water these guys are drinking from which Chu doesn’t have access to. Don’t make me laugh lol.
Haha obviously

Qin are the MC and Zhao is the main foe and antagonist of the manga. Obviously they are greater quality proportionally compared to other states.

Riboku the main antagonist and the most dangerous man in China.
Houken the strongest martially
Rénpa the most versatile guy ever etc etc

Chu is a big fucking state and the next wall but Hara focused much more on Zhao than any other foe.

So yeah there won’t be at all 6/7 guys wil 97/98 + STR. It’s not proportional at all.

The strength of the state is proportional to the narrative. Not to numbers.

and obviously Narratively Man U isn’t your run of the mil opponent. And he is an opponent for Moubu the strongest.

If Man U was just your random guy he would have been killed right away. Not living, summoned by Karin and having a future with the Mou.
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If northern China can produce this amount of 97ers, why can’t southern China exactly? Lol
lol you really think Chu is as strong as all the northern states combined ?

Zhao and Qin together (full power with everyone) would likely erase Chu
 
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