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I take TierZoo as a source of entertainment more than anything else. Lol.

Anyway, the validity of Troodon is currently up in the air at the moment. It's considered a wastebasket taxon right now, a dubious genus at best.

I think Hadrosaurs at D tier is kinda wild when they are one of the most successful dinosaur groups of all time with a global distribution. The size of these lads is being underestimated too. The larger species were matching or exceeding the size of large Therapods. For example, Shantungosaurus size estimates would flat out make it the largest dinosaur outside of Sauropods. Hadrosaurs should be B or A tier.

The T. Rex criticisms are wack. Criticising T. Rex for its small arms is like criticising snakes for having no limbs. In both cases, they don't have them cause they don't need them. The scavenging aspects of T. Rex are being over exaggerated. Most carnivores scavenge carcasses. The fact T. Rex can do it more effectively should really be a bonus in its favour, not slander. T. Rex should be A tier at least.

I think Spinosaurids should be bumped up a tier to C tier. In most environments they were in, they were usually large predators, even reaching apex status in some ecosystems. The "its environment changed" deal is a strange argument to hold against it specifically when ecological change is what typically wipes out most species.

I think Therizinosaurs are being overrated. They don't have the same level of recorded success as the other herbivorous groups on this list. I also think their ability to fight off predators with claws designed to drag down branches is being over exaggerated. C tier.
Haven’t we found soft tissue and protein from T. rex almost a decade ago?
The importance of the study isn't about the particular species that they did the tests on but far more about potentially getting genetic information from fossilised bones in general.

Fossilised bones are far more common to find in comparison to ancient soft tissue samples.
 

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I take TierZoo as a source of entertainment more than anything else. Lol.

Anyway, the validity of Troodon is currently up in the air at the moment. It's considered a wastebasket taxon right now, a dubious genus at best.

I think Hadrosaurs at D tier is kinda wild when they are one of the most successful dinosaur groups of all time with a global distribution. The size of these lads is being underestimated too. The larger species were matching or exceeding the size of large Therapods. For example, Shantungosaurus size estimates would flat out make it the largest dinosaur outside of Sauropods. Hadrosaurs should be B or A tier.

The T. Rex criticisms are wack. Criticising T. Rex for its small arms is like criticising snakes for having no limbs. In both cases, they don't have them cause they don't need them. The scavenging aspects of T. Rex are being over exaggerated. Most carnivores scavenge carcasses. The fact T. Rex can do it more effectively should really be a bonus in its favour, not slander. T. Rex should be A tier at least.

I think Spinosaurids should be bumped up a tier to C tier. In most environments they were in, they were usually large predators, even reaching apex status in some ecosystems. The "its environment changed" deal is a strange argument to hold against it specifically when ecological change is what typically wipes out most species.

I think Therizinosaurs are being overrated. They don't have the same level of recorded success as the other herbivorous groups on this list. I also think their ability to fight off predators with claws designed to drag down branches is being over exaggerated. C tier.

The importance of the study isn't about the particular species that they did the tests on but far more about potentially getting genetic information from fossilised bones in general.

Fossilised bones are far more common to find in comparison to ancient soft tissue samples.
Yeah this is a common criticism of TierZoo, they tend to over-emphasize the specs of individual builds while ignoring the success of the species as a whole, which leads them being very harsh on pigeons for example when pigeons are an extremely numerous bird species.
 

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Alright, crazy bit of news. If verifiably true then the possibilities and opportunities of what is possible in the study of Paleontology has been greatly expanded.

A study that was lead by the University of Liverpool has challenged the traditional notion that no genetic material survived the fossilisation process.

To summarise, the study claimed that remnants of decayed collagen protein was found in exceptionally well preserved fossilized bones of different dinosaurs. It looks like they tested Edmontosaurus and T. Rex bones.


If I understand the scientific implications correctly then if a protein like collagen can be found in a fossil then DNA could be found too which could lead to DNA sequencing and understanding the evolutionary relationships between extinct animals much better.

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Shit man, we're getting closer and closer to have Jurassic Park/Jurassic World becoming real.:shocked:
 
The T. Rex criticisms are wack. Criticising T. Rex for its small arms is like criticising snakes for having no limbs. In both cases, they don't have them cause they don't need them. The scavenging aspects of T. Rex are being over exaggerated. Most carnivores scavenge carcasses. The fact T. Rex can do it more effectively should really be a bonus in its favour, not slander. T. Rex should be A tier at least.
From what I know of Rex, even A-tier would be an understatement. As I understand it, they were hypothesized to have basically filled multiple predatory niches throughout their lifetimes, and apparently did so with such success that no other competition existed alongside them. Which apparently is why T. Rex was the only large predator in its ecosystem.

Considering the new "Goliath" find it was also probably the beefiest terrestrial predator out there, barring perhaps Giganotosaurus and the highest estimates I've heard for Deinosuchus (if we include it). So underestimating it on an individual level is silly too.

I'm not much of a Rex fanboy, but it and Megalodon were practically Mother Nature's protagonist species in terms of how unique and successful they were.
 
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From what I'm given to understand, these aren't "real" dire wolves, they're just normal gray wolves with some dire wolf characteristics like a bigger skull for example.

But it's still super cool. Don't get your hopes up for horse-sized monsters like the ones from ASOIAF though.

If they could bring about an equivalent to mammoths or aurochs that might actually be great for the environment from what I hear, especially for climate change.
 

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From what I'm given to understand, these aren't "real" dire wolves, they're just normal gray wolves with some dire wolf characteristics like a bigger skull for example.

But it's still super cool. Don't get your hopes up for horse-sized monsters like the ones from ASOIAF though.

If they could bring about an equivalent to mammoths or aurochs that might actually be great for the environment from what I hear, especially for climate change.
Yea I don't think they're real "dire wolves" anyway. They're trying to make them genetically as close to dire wolves as possible.

Still fascinating though ye.
 
Yea I don't think they're real "dire wolves" anyway. They're trying to make them genetically as close to dire wolves as possible.

Still fascinating though ye.
Oh certainly!

Personally I hope they can bring back some of the more recently extinct ones like the Dodo, Steller's Sea Cow, Moa etc

I don't know about mammoths, but I'd love to see the syrian elephants make a comeback. They were asian elephants, but grew as big as the african ones.
 

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Oh certainly!

Personally I hope they can bring back some of the more recently extinct ones like the Dodo, Steller's Sea Cow, Moa etc

I don't know about mammoths, but I'd love to see the syrian elephants make a comeback. They were asian elephants, but grew as big as the african ones.
Mom, can we buy a Dodo?

We have Dodo at home.

The dodo:
 
It is a gray wolf genetically altered to express traits that are similar to a couple of identified dire wolf traits. In short, it's a gray wolf larping as a dire wolf. Noteworthy but not de-extinction.

They gotta sell this as a big "de-extinction" Win in order to get more funding. Fair enough.

Personally I much preferred the woolly mouse that Colossal BioScience produced.
They're cute. :pepemwai:
 

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It is a gray wolf genetically altered to look express traits that are similar to a couple of identified dire wolf traits. In short, it's a gray wolf larping as a dire wolf. Noteworthy but not de-extinction.

They gotta sell this as a big "de-extinction" Win in order to get more funding. Fair enough.

Personally I much preferred the woolly mouse that Colossal BioScience produced.
They're cute. :pepemwai:
One of the comments said,

"This is a wolf but dire."

Kills me.:kobeha:
 
Still can't lie, the mammal edition of Jurassic park wasn't on my expectation list this year.

I mean what's next? Those scientists are actually going to learn sperm whale language?

Mind, I'd heard of Colossal before, but I'd never allowed myself to expect much from them.

I do hope these new creations of theirs grow up healthy and fit. We wouldn't want them to suffer any issues.
It is a gray wolf genetically altered to express traits that are similar to a couple of identified dire wolf traits. In short, it's a gray wolf larping as a dire wolf. Noteworthy but not de-extinction.

They gotta sell this as a big "de-extinction" Win in order to get more funding. Fair enough.

Personally I much preferred the woolly mouse that Colossal BioScience produced.
They're cute. :pepemwai:
I read what you wrote as woolly moose at first for a second and got carried away imagining an adorable tiny fluffy moose.

But these are very very cute too! Maybe they'll breed and sell them as pets or something.

I wonder what other interesting side discoveries will come up like this. Who knows, maybe they'll accidentally whip up the cure for cancer while concocting up something else.
 
Well, looks like the BBC is dragging out my childhood nostalgia back into the sunlight a 1/4 of a century after it was first aired. The Brits are actually going to do another series of Walking with Dinosaurs.

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/20...ng-with-dinosaurs-is-coming-back-to-the-beeb/

Some of the creatures to be covered will include Spinosaurus, Triceratops, T-Rex and Lusotitan.

It feels weird to see this series be revived after so long to be honest. Part of me pessimistically thinks that the BBC is floundering at the moment and cause of that they are now dragging out a long dormant IP out of desperation after seeing the success of Prehistoric Planet. Apparently they are working with PBS on this because the Brits can't do anything by themselves these days I guess.
Well folks, the BBC finally dropped the trailer for this thing...
I am really not feeling for this trailer. CGI looks off. It certainly looks like a visual downgrade from Prehistoric Planet. It doesn't even look like an upgrade from Netflix's prehistory series Life on our Planet. This trailer honestly looks mid. :specialmeh:

Apparently they are going to have cuts to the modern day and out of 6 episodes, 5 of them are supposedly going to be Cretaceous settings. 0 Triassic and only 1 Jurassic. :hope:

They apparently aren't bringing back Kenneth Brannagh as narrator or Ben Bartlett as composer. Those two seriously contributed to the uniquely raw, melancholic atmosphere that the original Walking with... series had. This is looking real rough for og fans. :tchpepe:

This looks like it is going to be a generic lukewarm series which is disappointing to see after how groundbreaking the original series was.:peperain:

Ah well. Here is a trailer for Primitive War to get that taste of BBC slop out yer mouth.
US military spec ops Vs dinosaurs during the Vietnam War. Let's go. :araboss:
 

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Well folks, the BBC finally dropped the trailer for this thing...
I am really not feeling for this trailer. CGI looks off. It certainly looks like a visual downgrade from Prehistoric Planet. It doesn't even look like an upgrade from Netflix's prehistory series Life on our Planet. This trailer honestly looks mid. :specialmeh:

Apparently they are going to have cuts to the modern day and out of 6 episodes, 5 of them are supposedly going to be Cretaceous settings. 0 Triassic and only 1 Jurassic. :hope:

They apparently aren't bringing back Kenneth Brannagh as narrator or Ben Bartlett as composer. Those two seriously contributed to the uniquely raw, melancholic atmosphere that the original Walking with... series had. This is looking real rough for og fans. :tchpepe:

This looks like it is going to be a generic lukewarm series which is disappointing to see after how groundbreaking the original series was.:peperain:

Ah well. Here is a trailer for Primitive War to get that taste of BBC slop out yer mouth.
US military spec ops Vs dinosaurs during the Vietnam War. Let's go. :araboss:
The CGI honestly looks dated for ten years ago too. The talking heads segments will be... Alright, I don't mind those. Just not for a series known for telling dinosaur stories through a documentary style.
 
Well folks, the BBC finally dropped the trailer for this thing...
I am really not feeling for this trailer. CGI looks off. It certainly looks like a visual downgrade from Prehistoric Planet. It doesn't even look like an upgrade from Netflix's prehistory series Life on our Planet. This trailer honestly looks mid. :specialmeh:

Apparently they are going to have cuts to the modern day and out of 6 episodes, 5 of them are supposedly going to be Cretaceous settings. 0 Triassic and only 1 Jurassic. :hope:

They apparently aren't bringing back Kenneth Brannagh as narrator or Ben Bartlett as composer. Those two seriously contributed to the uniquely raw, melancholic atmosphere that the original Walking with... series had. This is looking real rough for og fans. :tchpepe:

This looks like it is going to be a generic lukewarm series which is disappointing to see after how groundbreaking the original series was.:peperain:

Ah well. Here is a trailer for Primitive War to get that taste of BBC slop out yer mouth.
US military spec ops Vs dinosaurs during the Vietnam War. Let's go. :araboss:
Well if nothing else the Spino scenes were cool at least.

Also 00:53 is unintentionally rather funny to me. *NOM*

CGI does look like something out of a Dazzling Divine video. No sense of weight at all and they look a tad plasticky.
 
Fraud ass wolf
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This is basically a vanity project. It is cool. But that isn’t a dire wolf.

I feel like inevitably this technology is going to be used by some rich assholes to create their own Jurassic park full of mutant creatures like this.

I suspect some arab prince would fund it. They already have attraction to stupid vanity projects to boost tourism.
 
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I read what you wrote as woolly moose at first for a second and got carried away imagining an adorable tiny fluffy moose.

But these are very very cute too! Maybe they'll breed and sell them as pets or something.
The pet trade does seem a likely eventual destination for these things. There are already genetically modified "glow in the dark" axolotls in the pet trade. Wig mice seem pretty normal in comparison.
I wonder what other interesting side discoveries will come up like this. Who knows, maybe they'll accidentally whip up the cure for cancer while concocting up something else.
Well they'll probably find some bio-medical purpose from this research.

TIME magazine did a long article on those wolves. It is mentioned that besides the de-extinction stuff, they are using all this gene editing stuff to try and help endangered species, specifically those with low genetic diversity due to a population bottleneck.
Since inbreeding depression results in all kind of medical problems then I imagine fixing it will probably result in some useful knowledge. :risicheck:
 

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Fraud ass wolf
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This is basically a vanity project. It is cool. But that isn’t a dire wolf.

I feel like inevitably this technology is going to be used by some rich assholes to create their own Jurassic park full of mutant creatures like this.

I suspect some arab prince would fund it. They already have attraction to stupid vanity projects to boost tourism.
It’s an advertisement. They’re going to sell rare animals like the “dire wolf” to the rich.
 
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