General & Others Prediction for Future Sagas and One Piece Ending at Chapter 1500

[dirtyLarry]

My prediction:

Egghead: 1060 - 1110 (50 chapters)
Elbaf: 1110-1190 (80 chapters) ---- they somehow meet the man with the burned scar and get the last ponegliff here
Path to Laughtale: 1190-1200 (10 chapters)
Laugh Tale and war against BB: 1200-1250 (50 chapters)
Preparation for the final war against the WG: 1250-1260 (10 chapters)
Final war against the WG and Dawn of the world: 1260-1345 (85 chapters)
Epilogue: 1345-1356 (11 chapters) ---- because of Oda's wordplays and 56 meaning "go-mu", a fitting ending

That's roughly 250 chapters from now and I took the higher end on most estimations.

With Oda's pacing of about 35 chapters per year this means about 6-7 more years.

 

[God of Finance]

On Topic:

1200-1250 is the sweet spot imo.

</=1200: Was Oda's goal, but if he keeps to it the last saga is rushed and the series suffers.

>1250: Oda does well on the saga until he axes the ending Bleach style.

=/>1300: See above^. Oda won't allow that.

 

[dirtyLarry]

One piece might have 200 chapter left at most. One piece doesn't have that much substance anymore. If Oda added more content rather than using two chapters to say the same thing he could probably end it in 80.

Oda managed to make Dressrosa (!) a 100 chapter arc.

Let me repeat this: He made DRESSROSA (!!!) a 100 chapter arc!!!

I don't get how people think that we will have less than 200 chapters left, when nearly all the meat of the story hasn't even been served yet.

1) Elbaf
2) Last ponegliff/man with the burned scar
3) Fiding Laugh Tale
4) Finding out about the void century (Oda already said there will be a longer flashback for that)
5) conflict and battle with BB
6) last war drawing nearer (great flood coming, Imu starting the cleansing etc.)
7) final war against the WG
8) dawn of the world and epilogue

I did my estimation above and I could see it ending at about chapter 1300 if he really trims it down, but imho there is no way it ends earlier than that.

It also wouldn't make sense in terms of proportions if the actual heart of the entire story (>90% of the important stuff) gets less than 200 chapters, while rather redundant sagas alone got more than 100 chapters.

 

[God of Finance]

Let me repeat this: He made DRESSROSA (!!!) a 100 chapter arc!!!

And the Saga was less than 150.

 

[Paperchampion23]

My prediction:

Egghead: 1060 - 1110 (50 chapters)
Elbaf: 1110-1190 (80 chapters) ---- they somehow meet the man with the burned scar and get the last ponegliff here
Path to Laughtale: 1190-1200 (10 chapters)
Laugh Tale and war against BB: 1200-1250 (50 chapters)
Preparation for the final war against the WG: 1250-1260 (10 chapters)
Final war against the WG and Dawn of the world: 1260-1345 (85 chapters)
Epilogue: 1345-1356 (11 chapters) ---- because of Oda's wordplays and 56 meaning "go-mu", a fitting ending

That's roughly 250 chapters from now and I took the higher end on most estimations.

With Oda's pacing of about 35 chapters per year this means about 6-7 more years.

Even at these estimates I have a hard time seeing Blackbeard or the WG getting addressed in those lengths, even if you assume Shanks is not a direct enemy or Akainu isnt fought separately from the WG lol. I dont even expect Egghead to end that quickly (but hopefully it does!)

But its shows how conservative you can be about estimates and still understand that even close 200 chapters it sounds almost impossible from this point.

 

[dirtyLarry]

And the Saga was less than 150.

Yes, which emphasizes my point:

A saga that was infinitely less important and faster told than all that is left on the table still took 150 chapters.

So why would anyone expect the heart of the story getting less than 200 chapters?

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

It also wouldn't make sense in terms of proportions if the actual heart of the entire story (>90% of the important stuff) gets less than 200 chapters, while rather redundant sagas alone got more than 100 chapters.

The original plot was supposed to last only 5 years. That means the heart of the story could very well be less than 200 chapters

Egghead: 1060 - 1110 (50 chapters)
Elbaf: 1110-1190 (80 chapters) ---- they somehow meet the man with the burned scar and get the last ponegliff here
Path to Laughtale: 1190-1200 (10 chapters)
Laugh Tale and war against BB: 1200-1250 (50 chapters)
Preparation for the final war against the WG: 1250-1260 (10 chapters)
Final war against the WG and Dawn of the world: 1260-1345 (85 chapters)
Epilogue: 1345-1356 (11 chapters) ---- because of Oda's wordplays and 56 meaning "go-mu", a fitting ending

That's roughly 250 chapters from now and I took the higher end on most estimations.

Am I missing something? If you took the higher end on most estimates and that gave you roughly 250 chapters, why couldnt the lower end estimate give you less than 200 chapters?

 

[God of Finance]

Yes, which emphasizes my point:

A saga that was infinitely less important and faster told than all that is left on the table still took 150 chapters.

So why would anyone expect the heart of the story getting less than 200 chapters?

Because fans bitched that one already took too long and similarly criticized Wano.

There's also zero precedent for a longer arc and Oda has been clear he is wrapping up.

Ya'll should wish for this saga to be Oda's longest but ya trolling if you think it is gonna be 2-3x Oda's precedent.

 

[dirtyLarry]

The original plot was supposed to last only 5 years. That means the heart of the story could very well be less than 200 chapters


Am I missing something? If you took the higher end on most estimates and that gave you roughly 250 chapters, why couldnt the lower end estimate give you less than 200 chapters?

Because 200 chapters is the bare minimum and my lower end. Just go through all the arcs that we know will happen (I listed them) and then tell me how you come to the conclusion that we have less than 200 chapters left, especially when taking Oda's record/history into consideration.

250 chapters tends towards the higher end, which lies at about 270-280 chapters, imho.

 

[Paperchampion23]

The original plot was supposed to last only 5 years. That means the heart of the story could very well be less than 200 chapters


Am I missing something? If you took the higher end on most estimates and that gave you roughly 250 chapters, why couldnt the lower end estimate give you less than 200 chapters?

Because fans bitched that one already took too long and similarly criticized Wano.

There's also zero precedent for a longer arc and Oda has been clear he is wrapping up.

Ya'll should wish for this saga to be Oda's longest but ya trolling if you think it is gonna be 2-3x Oda's precedent.

Ya'll are ridiculous. We have consistently had longer arcs since the timeskip and theres no indication of the rest being objectively shorter. Its one thing to be hopeful that he ends the series in a timely fashion, its another to expect it or to "expect" he rushes bigger character arcs (i.e. Blackbeard) over smaller ones (i.e. Doflamingo)

You "hope" he can up the pacing and trim the fat. There is zero indication of this happening this far. And Im sick of the Wano argument, because that arc was already 150 chapters, so rushing the end doesnt mean shit when the arc itself was long as fuck.

To claim he's "wrapping" up while we sit in what can be considered a side arc focusing on Kizaru of all characters and not Shanks, Blackbeard or Akainu is hilarious all things considered.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

People are deluded if they don’t think elbaf will be another wano.

One piece is WSJ’s cash cow, they aren’t going to rush the series.
Elbaf, Laugh Tale, and the Final War have been hyped for over a decade now.

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I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if OP lasts another 10 years with Elbaf and the final war each being 4 year arcs like Wano.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Because 200 chapters is the bare minimum and my lower end.

Fair enough

Just go through all the arcs that we know will happen (I listed them)

Your list doesnt mean much

hen tell me how you come to the conclusion that we have less than 200 chapters lef

I see the arguments why it could be like ~170-180 chapters to wrap things up (which is less than 200). If the series ends when One Piece is found, then we dont need 280 chapters. We will get a better idea once Egghead ends.

Ya'll are ridiculous. We have consistently had longer arcs since the timeskip and theres no indication of the rest being objectively shorter. Its one thing to be hopeful that he ends the series in a timely fashion, its another to expect it or to "expect" he rushes bigger character arcs (i.e. Blackbeard) over smaller ones (i.e. Doflamingo)

You "hope" he can up the pacing and trim the fat. There is zero indication of this happening this far. And Im sick of the Wano argument, because that arc was already 150 chapters, so rushing the end doesnt mean shit when the arc itself was long as fuck.

To claim he's "wrapping" up while we sit in what can be considered a side arc focusing on Kizaru of all characters and not Shanks, Blackbeard or Akainu is hilarious all things considered.

You are delusional, nobody in their right mind should believe One Piece will continue for another 10-15 years

 

[gz89]

Copium, series aint gonna continue for another 10+ years.

Oda can barely release 40+/- chapters every year and its obvious thats he's at his limits.
We are lucky if we get a proper ending and 200+- more chapters.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Fair enough


Your list doesnt mean much


I see the arguments why it could be like ~170-180 chapters to wrap things up (which is less than 200). If the series ends when One Piece is found, then we dont need 280 chapters. We will get a better idea once Egghead ends.


You are delusional, nobody in their right mind should believe One Piece will continue for another 10-15 years

Firstly, @dirtyLarry 's list is simply based geography. We are in Egghead and Elbaf is next. These are facts. In fact, they are conservatively estimating what comes after because have no idea what comes after Elbaf save for Lodestar (which may or may not be Law's log destination) and Laugh Tale. Then consider the fact that you have to assume Oda resolves Yonko, Mihawk, Marines and WG in a span of....what, Wano?

Secondly, hello pot meet the fucking kettle. Its delusional to expect the story to last what you guys are estimating to be the length of roughly Wano lmao. 200 chapters these days is easily 5-6 years (estimating 35 chapters a year.

Seriously, revisit your logic again if Oda isnt out of Elbaf before 1200. By that point youll have less than 100 chapters to resolve virtually everything by "your" estimate.

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Copium, series aint gonna continue for another 10+ years.

Oda can barely release 40+/- chapters every year and its obvious thats he's at his limits.
We are lucky if we get a proper ending and 200+- more chapters.

"Last legs". Bro he's 48, not on his deathbead at 80.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Secondly, hello pot meet the fucking kettle. Its delusional to expect the story to last what you guys are estimating to be the length of roughly Wano lmao. 200 chapters these days is easily 5-6 years (estimating 35 chapters a year.

Whats wrong with that? People call Wano dragged out and look at the major events that happened in this arc: Two OG yonkos got defeated, Luffy became a yonko, Luffy unlocked G5 and reached the pinnacle of his abilities, shichibukai system got abolished, and so on. If all that could happen in a dragged-out saga of 150 chapters, I dont see why Oda wont be able to wrap things up within the next 200 chapters.

Seriously, revisit your logic again if Oda isnt out of Elbaf before 1200. By that point youll have less than 100 chapters to resolve virtually everything by "your" estimate.

Depends on what lores we would be left with after Elbaf. The final war wont require 100 chapters! Dont forget Marineford was only a 31 chapter arc.

Firstly, @dirtyLarry 's list is simply based geography. We are in Egghead and Elbaf is next. These are facts. In fact, they are conservatively estimating what comes after because have no idea what comes after Elbaf save for Lodestar (which may or may not be Law's log destination) and Laugh Tale. Then consider the fact that you have to assume Oda resolves Yonko, Mihawk, Marines and WG in a span of....what, Wano?

You just dont want to believe that Oda is trying to finish the story.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Whats wrong with that? People call Wano dragged out and look at the major events that happened in this arc: Two OG yonkos got defeated, Luffy became a yonko, Luffy unlocked G5 and reached the pinnacle of his abilities, shichibukai system got abolished, and so on. If all that could happen in a dragged-out saga of 150 chapters, I dont see why Oda wont be able to wrap things up within the next 200 chapters.

Bro, because 2 more Yonko exist and so does the entire Marine force ( a fraction of which is being fought here and it hasnt even started), plus the entire World Government. Plus the shit that makes up the backdrops behind all of this (Elbaf, Laugh Tale, etc). But somehow, according to you, this is equivalent to 2 Yonko in one arc who are evidently less relevant to the plot than the rest of what we have.

Depends on what lores we would be left with after Elbaf. The final war wont require 100 chapters! Dont forget Marineford was only a 31 chapter arc.

Lol, my favorite argument. You realize Marineford consists of nothing but clashes and offscreens right? Its 31 chapters because all it truly resolves are 2 deaths thats it. Nobody else loses. There are no true, character ending fights during that arc.

You just dont want to believe that Oda is trying to finish the story.

Ohhhh trust me, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I want nothing more than the series to reach its climax as soon as it can. The issue is theres nothing suggesting it, save for lukewarm comments from the author (who has gone back on it 3 times!) and editor.

Its clearly difficult for you guys to understand why this is the case, so if you still cant get that after my 2 points above, then theres no use continuing this conversation.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Ya'll are tru fans who actually respect the Mangaka :cheers::cheers:

5 arcs including the final war and the most antecipated arc in the show within 200 chapters?

 

[IsaziSempi]

And yet, here we are with no sign of us getting any closer to the end. Bro both Kaido and Big Mom got hit with final moves then "died" to a volcano eruption. There was nothing offscreened about that, you just dont like the result (which is fine).

Your woeful pessimism doesnt change the fact that nothing is actually moving any faster than what you actually think is implied.

Two yonkou have gone missing. Oda revealed the endgame opponents. The knights and imu. Luffy is a yonkou with three poneglphys and were in the last saga. How much more does your ass need to realize Oda is wrapping things up?

 

[Paperchampion23]

Two yonkou have gone missing. Oda revealed the endgame opponents. The knights and imu. Luffy is a yonkou with three poneglphys and were in the last saga. How much more does your ass need to realize Oda is wrapping things up?

Idk bro, maybe when we are actually seeing Luffy fighting Imu ill think "yea, the story is definitely ending".

Until then we got Kizaru, Elbaf, Blackbeard, Shanks, Akainu and whatever the fuck else before then.

Brainlet

 

[dirtyLarry]

Whats wrong with that? People call Wano dragged out and look at the major events that happened in this arc: Two OG yonkos got defeated, Luffy became a yonko, Luffy unlocked G5 and reached the pinnacle of his abilities, shichibukai system got abolished, and so on. If all that could happen in a dragged-out saga of 150 chapters, I dont see why Oda wont be able to wrap things up within the next 200 chapters.

Everything post-timeskip built towards Wano and BM/Kaido.

In fact Wano was only the finale of their saga and it still took 150 chapters.

Now look at all the enemies we have left: Imu (+ Gorosei and Gods Knights), Blackbeard and crew, marines with Akainu etc., final conflicts with Shanks and Mihawk to round up Luffy's and Zoro's story arcs,

Each of those clashes is way bigger than the Kaido and BM encounter storywise.

Not only that: Oda is only starting to actively build towards those conflicts as we've seen those past few chapters.

Now you take a look back at those 150 chapters it took Oda to merely solve the final (!) battle against two Yonkou and look at all the way more important conflicts we have left (in fact even buildup left).