I don’t think this is it
as an example, Zoro had the second most “story focus” in Wano outside of Luffy and yet he ended up just as uninteresting to follow on panel
like I don’t think simply being on panel makes you interesting. Luffy has the most panel time basically in the whole story yet he’s never been my favorite character, even Pre time skip… but pre time skip, Luffy had that one great Character trait “you always wanted to see what random thing he would do next”
this is a character trait Luffy lost. He no longer has that thing that made him so interesting. It was instead replaced with the Nika fruit that the author has to TELL US is the most random whacky fruit ever… instead of it simply being that Luffy himself does random whacky things… we have to wait for his df to awaken and choose the random whacky things he can do, for the limited time it can exist
So Luffy can maintain having the most panel time in the story as he does now and yet not be interesting to see on Panel
and Zoro is worse because the thing that he had pre time skip that kept interest was grit. You always wanted to see what Zoro’s fight was gonna be and what obstacle, whether physical or emotional (yes Zoro had emotional turmoil pre time skip such as the Usopp situation that he himself admitted also affected him) he was gonna overcome…
Zoro always seemed like his grittiness was antithetical to the one piece story itself… Like he is the only person who recognizes this isn’t a happy go lucky story and that the crew HAS TO BE AN ACTUAL CREW to work… I watched this part of the story when I was 13 years old and I legit was almost caught off guard… It’s like Zoro was in another anime or something…
even stuff like Zoro being the only character to carry over damage from arc to arc was odd… Zoro was damaged from Baratie to Arlong park, he was scarred on his chest permanently, he cut his legs in Drum island, he had those legs scars permanently, he got fucked up in thriller bark, he was bandages for the rest of pre time skip… This is pure grit… the story treated the things Zoro said and did and felt almost like more seriously than anyone else
all this happened while Zoro did not have the most panel time. He was simply a side character but he had specific things about him that were interesting in the little time he had on panel
and of course as You can guess, all this was lost post time skip… no more grit, on top of having even less panel time…
Even when he’s given the most panel time he’s ever had in an arc in Wano, even more than pre time skip arcs, he just walks around getting into meaningless scuffles, loses his sword unceremoniously and gains a new sword, equally unceremoniously.
Gets meaningless feats on the rooftop and a badly written fight with King.
The arc ends with him fully healed. His meeting with the grim reaper doesn’t matter. He no longer sustains injuries from arc to arc. No scars from his toughest fight yet.
He gets CoC without any character development even though every single other character who unlocks CoC does it alongside meaningful character arcs.
He promised to avenge yasu, he didn’t. He made no impressions on the people of Wano despite being randomly stated to be related to them. He says he wanted to visit ryuma’s grave, he didnt. He never gets to use Nidai Kitetsu after repeatedly saying he wants to.
He’s a literal afterthought whose words and actions and ambitions don’t matter.
this is what I mean by, there is nothing interesting about the strawhats… There is nothing they do on panel that’s worth any further thought or provide any entertainment
as an example, Zoro had the second most “story focus” in Wano outside of Luffy and yet he ended up just as uninteresting to follow on panel
like I don’t think simply being on panel makes you interesting. Luffy has the most panel time basically in the whole story yet he’s never been my favorite character, even Pre time skip… but pre time skip, Luffy had that one great Character trait “you always wanted to see what random thing he would do next”
this is a character trait Luffy lost. He no longer has that thing that made him so interesting. It was instead replaced with the Nika fruit that the author has to TELL US is the most random whacky fruit ever… instead of it simply being that Luffy himself does random whacky things… we have to wait for his df to awaken and choose the random whacky things he can do, for the limited time it can exist
So Luffy can maintain having the most panel time in the story as he does now and yet not be interesting to see on Panel
and Zoro is worse because the thing that he had pre time skip that kept interest was grit. You always wanted to see what Zoro’s fight was gonna be and what obstacle, whether physical or emotional (yes Zoro had emotional turmoil pre time skip such as the Usopp situation that he himself admitted also affected him) he was gonna overcome…
Zoro always seemed like his grittiness was antithetical to the one piece story itself… Like he is the only person who recognizes this isn’t a happy go lucky story and that the crew HAS TO BE AN ACTUAL CREW to work… I watched this part of the story when I was 13 years old and I legit was almost caught off guard… It’s like Zoro was in another anime or something…
even stuff like Zoro being the only character to carry over damage from arc to arc was odd… Zoro was damaged from Baratie to Arlong park, he was scarred on his chest permanently, he cut his legs in Drum island, he had those legs scars permanently, he got fucked up in thriller bark, he was bandages for the rest of pre time skip… This is pure grit… the story treated the things Zoro said and did and felt almost like more seriously than anyone else
all this happened while Zoro did not have the most panel time. He was simply a side character but he had specific things about him that were interesting in the little time he had on panel
and of course as You can guess, all this was lost post time skip… no more grit, on top of having even less panel time…
Even when he’s given the most panel time he’s ever had in an arc in Wano, even more than pre time skip arcs, he just walks around getting into meaningless scuffles, loses his sword unceremoniously and gains a new sword, equally unceremoniously.
Gets meaningless feats on the rooftop and a badly written fight with King.
The arc ends with him fully healed. His meeting with the grim reaper doesn’t matter. He no longer sustains injuries from arc to arc. No scars from his toughest fight yet.
He gets CoC without any character development even though every single other character who unlocks CoC does it alongside meaningful character arcs.
He promised to avenge yasu, he didn’t. He made no impressions on the people of Wano despite being randomly stated to be related to them. He says he wanted to visit ryuma’s grave, he didnt. He never gets to use Nidai Kitetsu after repeatedly saying he wants to.
He’s a literal afterthought whose words and actions and ambitions don’t matter.
this is what I mean by, there is nothing interesting about the strawhats… There is nothing they do on panel that’s worth any further thought or provide any entertainment
Good point, but MJ played 2 seasons in Wizards (60 and 82 games) and were all stars in both. In addition, when we talk about MJ's peak at Bulls, we count six years. We dont count the years before Scottie joined Bulls, we dont also count his comeback year from first retirement in 95.
If you count MJ's peak 6 years vs Wizards 2 years, then its a fair comparison because Zoro was also absent from the manga for a long time after the timeskip, doesnt get as much panel time as pre-timeskip and the manga is not done yet!
If you count MJ's peak 6 years vs Wizards 2 years, then its a fair comparison because Zoro was also absent from the manga for a long time after the timeskip, doesnt get as much panel time as pre-timeskip and the manga is not done yet!
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