[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 09: Throne of Lies

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lynching flower has this cost if we assume she's the fool.


"If the Fool is executed, then all those who voted to execute them will lose 1 charge from all limited-use abilities. In addition, there can be no trials the next day. If executed before Day 3, there can be no trials for 2 days."

it says executed here not night kill so can we get rid of her by lynching ?
am not sure what no trial means? that we cant turn a lynch around?
the guilty or innocent part right?
in that case I dont think its too bad a risk. how about we have people who dont have limited use abilities lynch flower.
Lynch = Treason = Execute.
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
lynching flower has this cost if we assume she's the fool.


"If the Fool is executed, then all those who voted to execute them will lose 1 charge from all limited-use abilities. In addition, there can be no trials the next day. If executed before Day 3, there can be no trials for 2 days."

it says executed here not night kill so can we get rid of her by lynching ?
am not sure what no trial means? that we cant turn a lynch around?
the guilty or innocent part right?
in that case I dont think its too bad a risk. how about we have people who dont have limited use abilities lynch flower.
no we're not lynching her. At least not before D3.

If we lynch the fool, we can't lynch anyone for 2 days.

the only way is to NK her I think
 
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Dragomir

Allow me to answer your questions.
it says executed here not night kill so can we get rid of her by lynching ?
In that context, executed means lynching.
am not sure what no trial means? that we cant turn a lynch around?
the guilty or innocent part right?
No trial means that you won't be able to lynch anyone.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
The issue is, I don't see why she would use this two-shot ability on herself N1 when nothing warrants for an investigator to investigate her.

She'd be much safer saving it til later or at least after she made a move that would make her suspicious

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She headed a mislynch on day one....


Right at the beginning of day two,she pushed tac case. This imply she already planned at night or before day two that she would go with this


So her saving deceive ability for later nights doesn't make sense to me....
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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If we have TK? Didn't you claim that you got Jailed implying there is jailor? Lol





I am still not convinced with flower being fool

1) with already a bit sus on her there was no need for her to take such risky move that can expose her as fool right at the beginning of day two.

This become more surprising Because she claimed tac as unseen(least evidence of this game having unseen) and not as neutral or cult.

If I think from jester perspective based on my experience of being one, her strategy as a fool is most risky and foolish one.

2)she didn't even wait for others to even make a case or claim and jumped directly to push tac case despite knowing that she can easily get scum read on her if any invest would investigate her and would definitely push case against her

3)she didn't seem to use her decieve ability which once again doesn't make sense because apart from all abilities we have for fool this one can clearly brand her as scum othe than fool.



But if there is doubt then we shouldn't Lynch her. And, let twon killing role do the work at night just to be on safe side.
According to Kiwi/the wikia, the Fool will have 2x immunity to killings at night. So, it's not like we can even afford to waste a killing role on her. And, yes. Prince = Jailer and every game of ToL has a prince.

But I do agree. Her mislynch would make me sus of her, Hell. I was sus of her when she pushed DA on what I thought was faulty info already. If she thought she'd be sus'd / intended to push a player for jester, she'd use Deceive on herself....

NOPE.

1000000% sure

Flower is the fucking.
FUCKING.
FOOL.

Do not lynch this bitch.
 
Very weird way to play. Just because youre king doesn't mean you're above suspicious yourself. You got odds to be BD or cult/unseen.

Read: TAC. I feel he's being truthful in what he's said and not overlly suspcious
Flower: She deserves death
Nat: She's not suspect
Cin: Eh, its cin. I can never read him he's all over the place.
You: You're probably BD but king =/= safe and lynch reactions are scummy moves generally.
Lanji: No idea, but was weird he rando lynched me D1
Myself: Greatest BD ever
DA2/AL: Well Al was playing suspicious D1 but Al is a weird player at times.

Everyone else, nadda thing.

Again, I am so sorry! </3
Shouldn't apologize, its a Mafia type game its how it goes :D

She might be fishing for reactions.
Possibly.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Two times immunity from kill at night? That means we need to Target her three consecutive nights just to kill her.....
It's an active ability. Check out the page.

https://tol.fandom.com/wiki/The_Fool

If Flower didn't bother to DECEIVE, then she probably decided to HIDE after leading a lynch Day 1. But Reborn, with all my heart and then some more, I know Flowa is a fool. We need to ignore her for the time being or hope to catch her off guard in the future.

Prince can execute her beyond Day 3, since Flowa can't use her abilities when imprisoned. We should strive for that.
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
Very weird way to play. Just because youre king doesn't mean you're above suspicious yourself. You got odds to be BD or cult/unseen.

Read: TAC. I feel he's being truthful in what he's said and not overlly suspcious
Flower: She deserves death
Nat: She's not suspect
Cin: Eh, its cin. I can never read him he's all over the place.
You: You're probably BD but king =/= safe and lynch reactions are scummy moves generally.
Lanji: No idea, but was weird he rando lynched me D1
Myself: Greatest BD ever
DA2/AL: Well Al was playing suspicious D1 but Al is a weird player at times.

Everyone else, nadda thing.



Shouldn't apologize, its a Mafia type game its how it goes :D



Possibly.
hmmm......Really vague opinions you have on most players

I'll think about it.

I'll tell you why I have you on my radar. First, your posts don't really have much other than explaining mechanics. You're present but I don't feel your presence.
just saying this

usually scums likes to waste time with mechanics and show that they're helping
I checked your other game where you were mafia and the meta is similar. Albeit, I've never played with you as town, but you seem really passive this game. Not accusing anyone.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Jailor will ace her one shot.
It's an active ability. Check out the page.

https://tol.fandom.com/wiki/The_Fool

If Flower didn't bother to DECEIVE, then she probably decided to HIDE after leading a lynch Day 1. But Reborn, with all my heart and then some more, I know Flowa is a fool. We need to ignore her for the time being or hope to catch her off guard in the future.

Prince can execute her beyond Day 3, since Flowa can't use her abilities when imprisoned. We should strive for that.
Prince can't use execute till night three so she would still be alive tomorrow.....


But killing her at night is best bet so we should go with it.


However, TAC I want to get you investigated just to be on safe side that you aren't Anti Town.
 
hmmm......Really vague opinions you have on most players

I'll think about it.

I'll tell you why I have you on my radar. First, your posts don't really have much other than explaining mechanics. You're present but I don't feel your presence.


I checked your other game where you were mafia and the meta is similar. Albeit, I've never played with you as town, but you seem really passive this game. Not accusing anyone.
Thats how I play now, unless I see something truly out there or suspect I don't really care to push. I don't have the time to read every post lol or go into details anymore. I like it chill.

Prince can't use execute till night three so she would still be alive tomorrow.....


But killing her at night is best bet so we should go with it.


However, TAC I want to get you investigated just to be on safe side that you aren't Anti Town.
True but knowing what she can do if we suspect her jailor can keep her contained then execute N3.
 
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