[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 09: Throne of Lies

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TheAncientCenturion

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Playing safe gives Cult more options to screw us over at night or day, we dont know what kind of neutrals we got either.
So it's either we continue the current track, which is reads in a chaotic environment where we can literally trust no one.

Or, go slow. Be methodical. Opens up risks to the unknowns but also gives us the chance to look at each player a lot better.
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
So you think blindly lynching is the way to go? Because we are DIRECTIONLESS and every day we need to think of who can and can't be trusted! We're going in blind and giving scum time to make a plan, to convert key players to hide among us. I can't see this benefiting us.

We'll lose majority this way unless we get lucky. But we can't predict luck.

At least with my strat, we force Cult into max. occupancy and then we can try to scum read. Prince dies? Okay. If we can pinpoint 3 Cult players via this plan and take them out in rapid succession? We have a much better chance of victory. And we have good reason to believe Mafia doesn't have factionkill yet. So we're in even less danger.
Even on the second reread, I still think this plan is bad.

If the cult start sacrificing their members to get more, it will be fresh reads again for us town. What is there stopping them from sacrificing the members that town is getting the most suspicious of?

We are just giving up our lynch ability. And even if somehow we get rid of all of the cult, it's not the end, there's still neutral players.

Kiwi i have started to sus you not being a Good King.
Why?
And i can vouch for Nat not being converted N2.
Are you claiming something?
 

TheAncientCenturion

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Even on the second reread, I still think this plan is bad.

If the cult start sacrificing their members to get more, it will be fresh reads again for us town. What is there stopping them from sacrificing the members that town is getting the most suspicious of?

We are just giving up our lynch ability. And even if somehow we get rid of all of the cult, it's not the end, there's still neutral players.


Why?

Are you claiming something?
Would you rather try and grab consistent reads on every player without having to worry about if they're scum? If your last day experience with them is worthless?

Again; We have no TI we can concretely trust. Yo Tan says Nat is good, but why do we believe him? What reason do we have? He is as confirmed as someone like Chrono. Or someone like me.

What is the plan, if we keep the current course? Question toughly and hope we get the right targets?
 

TheAncientCenturion

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What is there stopping them from sacrificing the members that town is getting the most suspicious of?
So we're down 2 scum and 1 of the scum, Cult Leader, will be found in the first day's postings.

So, we have the chance of narrowing down the most important Cult figure and that he'd kill 2 of his own? That is a massive boost / better scenario than nothing.
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his meta is awfully similar in the last two games I played with him.
I am not seeing a noticeable change in activity .yo tan wa wasnt a player for high activity unlike queen .
aside from that nothing really.
He can play the same way and still be scum.
 
his meta is awfully similar in the last two games I played with him.
I am not seeing a noticeable change in activity .yo tan wa wasnt a player for high activity unlike queen .
aside from that nothing really.
I wasn't townie both Games tho.
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tell me, did you check who visited her last night?
No, i Clear Mind Nat last Day phase.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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The Court:
1. @LANJI CUCKSMOKE
2. @Queen
3. @krogothwolf
4. @Seraphoenix
5. @Flower
6. @Finalbeta
7. @Reborn
8. @AL sama @Dark Admiral V2
9. @Cinera
10. @Kiwipom
11. @Yo Tan Wa
12. @TheAncientCenturion
13. @Power @Hawks
14. @Dark Admiral - Knight - Lynched D1
15. @Fiji - Observer - Mod-killed D3
16. @Chrono
17. @Inflamed Haki - Noble - Mod-killed D3
18. @Natalija
19. @Zoro D Goat
20. @NeutralWatcher
1 Neutral in Flowers
2 Cult
1 Potential Convert
3 dead townies already

As of now, we're at 13 Townies. If we mislynch today and cult converts another person?

We're at 11 townies, cult is at 4. And we have 1 Neutral. Check to make sure my math is correct, but that's a horrible scenario to be in.
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@TheAncientCenturion you look afraid. Why?

Yes it's challenging to win and that's what mafia is all about.
Because I think we fucked up by having our TI revealed so early on and with Observer gone. I have no reason to trust anyone of you guys. I don't think my reads have any strong validity, being carried over from one day to the next. And I think this is the case for everyone.

We're essentially playing by luck if we keep up with a classic format.
 
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