[FNZ] Role Madness Round 14: Code Geass - The Mafia Rebellion

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I understand now why Natalija didn't get lynched D3 but it was Rhea who got lynched.

Someone activated Checkmate and Rhea got lynched. And Checkmate is town ability. Schneizel has Checkmate ability and Schneizel was Fujishiro (town).



You are Schneizel!

[Passive Ability - Chessmaster] You are a Master of Chess. As such, you can plan your moves accordingly. After Night 2 you can decide if you would like to win with Town or as an Independent. You cannot get killed before you have made your choice by any means. As soon as you have made your choice, you gain access to your active abilities.

[Active Ability - Check] Put your target in check, finding out their full abilities each night.

[Active Ability - Checkmate] During the Day Phase target another player. They will be lynched regardless of votes. (2 shots)
CHECKMATE

[???] activated [Future Sight Attack], super-killing @Fujishiro 2.0 (Schneizel).



[???] tried to kill [???], but failed.

DAY 5 HAS BEGUN!

You have 24 hours to discuss.

Vote end phase is available.

@Marimo_420 @Natalija @Fujishiro @wordyworm @silverfire @NeutralWatcher @Queen @Tobi @RedGloverKing .​
Now on D3, someone activated Checkmate too.

THE LEADER HAS FALLEN!

[Checkmate] has been activated.

@Rhealuna (Kaname Ohgi) has been lynched.



NIGHT 3 HAS BEGUN!

You have 24 hours to send your actions.

And guess who was Schneizel on D3? Melontonin before she was subbed by Fujishiro.

So Natalija wasn't saved by scum but by Melontonin.

And Melontonin lynched Rhea made sense since Rhea sus Melontonin.

Natalija seemed to defend Melontonin/Fujishiro and can't answer why she was town.

@Marimo_420 @Tobi

Do you two know which character in Code Geass share bond with Schneizel? Natalija seemed to defend Melontonin(Schneizel) and can't ask why so she might now Melontonin's character.

Also since Lanji found Natalija gulity, she might have passive that always found guilty even if she's town. Do you two think there is character like that in Code Geass?
 
nat is invincible we already voted her twice and the town vig probably tried to kill her but failed so let’s just leave her

we should lynch someone else

vote lynch silverfire he until now hasn’t said anything of value

vote end day phase
 
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NeutralWatcher

It's also 2 shots and Checkmate has been activated 2 times.

First was activated to lynch Rhea.

Second was activated to lynch Jew D Boy.

So first day when Dragomir got lynched, it was not Melontonin who controlled the lynch.

nat is invincible we already voted her twice and the town vig probably tried to kill her but failed so let’s just leave her

we should lynch someone else

vote lynch silverfire he until now hasn’t said anything of value

vote end day phase
Look at my post above. What's your thought on Natalija after reading my post above your?
 
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NeutralWatcher

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
I'm not sure. I want to know Natalija's character first.

1. She might know Melontonin's character.
2. Found guilty even if she's town (Lanji was sure she was scum).
3. Lynch immunity on D2.

Do you think that character fits description number 1,2 and 3?
I'm not sure about 2 or 3 but it fits number 1. Maybe she's lynch immune as long as Shizel was alive? Idk at this point
 
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NeutralWatcher

@Queen @Tobi

Can you two look at my post page 141 number #2,820?

1 thing for sure someone activated Checkmate on D3 and Rhea got lynched.
Checkmate was activated again D4 and Jew D Boy got lynched.
Checkmate is only 2 shots. (Look at Fujishiro's role at D5 write up).

And Checkmate is Schenizel's ability and Fujishiro, a town was Schneizel.

So it was Melontonin (before being subbed by Fujishiro) who used Checkmate and lynched Rhea.
And D4 Fujishiro (subbed Melontonin) used Checkmate again to lynch Jew D Boy.

Natalija defended Melontonin and said she was town and can't answer why.

Natalija's character is:

1. She might know Melontonin's character with the way she defended her/Natalija's character knows Schneizel (Melontonin/Fujishiro)
2. Found guilty whether she's town or not. (Lanji was sure she was scum).
3. Lynch immune (D2).

Do you two know which character fits description 1, 2 and 3?
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1 thing for sure on D1 it was not Checkmate who made Dragomir got lynched since Checkmate is 2 shots and have been activated 2 times. First to lynch Rhea (D3) and second to lynch Jew D Boy (D4).
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Why did Cinera make Melontonin disappear on D2?

Was it because Melontonin was on Light (Lelouch) or someone else (Nunally) that Cinera had to protect so Cinera made Melontonin disappear so Melontonin can't lynch Light/player with Nunally character?
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Another thing I don't understand why did Cinera make Marimo disappear? Marimo wasn't that active to pose a threat to lynch Light or player with Nunally character.

Could it be that Marimo is Nunally?
 
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This is Cinera's reads.
There are two Scum factions.

I'm guessing Finalbeta was an executioner. I'll mark him as Third Party for now.

My reads on alignment:

Knights of Zero
  • @Tris
  • @Marimo_420
    • The redirected Lynch on him. I don't see Mafia using an ability to save a Town player.
  • ???
  • ???

Followers of the Empire
  • @Noctis
  • @Jew D. Boy
    • He attempted to Town clear Noctis
    • Natalija has been pushing him as Town
    • He's been unwilling to Lynch Nat today.
  • @Natalija
    • Lanji's incriminating result
    • She survived a Lynch
    • She seems to have avoided being vigged
  • ???

Third Party

Town

Unknown
  • @Light D Lamperouge
    • Given @Tobi's result, he's either Town or Godfather of the Knights of Zero.
    • I'm leaning Town for now.
  • @Melontonin
    • If she's Scum, she's a Knight of Zero.
    • Leaning Scum
  • @Seraphoenix
    • If he's not Town, then he's a Follower of the Empire. He's been insistent on Lynching Marimo initially then now Light. I don't recall him ever voting for Nat.
    • Leaning Scum
  • @silverfire
    • I don't have enough to solidly read him.
    • Leaning Town
  • @wordyworm
    • I'm uncomfortable with her attack on Lanji for Nat's Lynch failing, but she's new.
    • Otherwise, she's been very good.
    • Probably Town.
  • @Ali
    • Probably Town.

I think there are 3/4 members for each of the Mafia factions and 1 or two Indies.

So at least 15 Town, and at most 18.


Thoughts on my reads guys?
Updated Alignment Reads
Knights of Zero
  • Tris
  • Melontonin
    • She's not Nat/Noctis' scum buddy. If she's Scum then she's a Knight of Zero.
    • Noctis was very insistent on Lynching her yesterday. Noctis had the ability to discover alignments.
    • If Noctis used his ability on her, he'd know she was Scum of an opposing faction and it would explain why he tried to Lynch her.
    • He would have gained Town cred by Lynching opposite faction Scum.
    • I feel reasonably confident in this, but I'm not certain.
  • ???
  • ???

Followers of the Empire
  • Noctis
  • Finalbeta
    • He appears to be Marianne.
    • I'm guessing he awakened his memories (which is why he seemed Townish on Day 1)/
  • Natalija
    • Lanji's incriminating result
    • She survived a Lynch
    • She seems to have survived a Night Kill
    • She's Charles Zi Britannia
  • Seraphoenix
    • He's been insistent on Lynching Marimo initially then now Light.
    • I don't recall him ever voting for Nat.
    • He's been actively trying to discourage reads on Nat.

Third Party
  • Cinera

Town
  • Dragomir
  • Gianfi
  • Rej
  • Queen
  • Fujishiro
  • Midnight Delight
  • Seth
  • LANJI CUCKSMOKE
    • He seems to be genuinely Scum hunting and feels like a Town!Lanji.
  • NeutralWatcher
    • Seems to be genuinely Scum hunting and also fits his meta.
  • Tobi
    • He's a Town investigative role.
  • Rhea
    • She was spot on regarding Tris ability.
    • I feel reasonably confident Melon is Scum, and Rhea doesn't fit into any faction.
  • Wordyworm
    • She feels very Town to me right now.
  • Marimo_420
    • I suspected him from the beginning due to the Lynch avoidance, but it was caused by Tris ability.
      • Tris may have acted to secure a Lynch on myself, or prevent a Lynch on her.
    • I'm guessing Drago was chosen due to a supervote (perhaps by Finalbeta).

Unknown
  • Light D Lamperouge
    • Given Tobi's result, he's either Town or Godfather of the Knights of Zero.
    • Nat seems very certain he's the Godfather.
    • I'm not too sure of him.
  • Jew D Boy
    • I read him very wrongly
    • If he's Scum he's a Knight of Zero.
    • I'm not too sure on him.
  • silverfire
    • I don't have enough to solidly read him.
    • If he's Scum he's a Knight of Zero.
    • Leaning Town
  • Ali
    • If he's Scum he's a Knight of Zero.
    • Probably Town

I think there are 4 members of each Mafia faction, 1 third party and 16 Town players.


@Natalija is Charles Zi Britannia and I want her to go today. Nat's character has me spooked. I am worried that she has a Super Kill.
Marimo disappeared thanks to Cinera.

Cinera changed his read on Marimo from Knight of Zero into town.

Marimo might be Nunally. I'm not sure about this.
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Cinera made Melontonin disappeared too but Melontonin was Schneizel so it leaves Marimo who disappeared too because of Cinera.
 
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Me
Marimo( i believe i know exactly who he is)
Queen
NW
Worth to look into. Fujishiro read Marimo as town and knew who Marimo was. I don't think Marimo is scum but that D1 lynch on Dragomir from Marimo still bother me. Could be scum ability or town ability (with Fujishiro flipped Schneizel and he had ability to control lynch)).
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I think marimo is nunnally
And I think nunnally is town or harmless neutral
Can you answer my question about Natalija's character? It's post number #2,826
 
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The only player Fujishiro sus was RedGloverKing and Silverfire yesterday. And Natalija but with Fujishiro's flip and it turned out it was Melontonin/Fujishiro who controlled the lynch D3 (Rhea got lynched) and D4 (Jew D Boy got lynched).

@NeutralWatcher it's safe to assume fuji investigated marimo using check
What do you think about my question regarding Natalija's character? Look at page 141 post number #2,820.
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Natalija's character:
1. She defended Melontonin and seemes to know Melontonin's character (Schneizel). means character that shares a bond with Schneiizel.
2. FOund guilty whether town or not. (Lanji was sure Natalija was scum).
3. Immune to lynch (D2).
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@NeutralWatcher it's safe to assume fuji investigated marimo using check
Yeah Marimo might be harmless independent or town if he's Nunally.
 
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wordyworm

Fuji changed the lynch to Jew. It's interesting that he had an ability to look at people at night, yet I don't remember him bringing a case against Jew. If he knew, why didn't he try to lead us?

His two suspects were Nat and Silver.
I say vote lynch Nat
 
The only player Fujishiro sus was RedGloverKing and Silverfire yesterday. And Natalija but with Fujishiro's flip and it turned out it was Melontonin/Fujishiro who controlled the lynch D3 (Rhea got lynched) and D4 (Jew D Boy got lynched).


What do you think about my question regarding Natalija's character? Look at page 141 post number #2,820.
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Natalija's character:
1. She defended Melontonin and seemes to know Melontonin's character (Schneizel). means character that shares a bond with Schneiizel.
2. FOund guilty whether town or not. (Lanji was sure Natalija was scum).
3. Immune to lynch (D2).
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Yeah Marimo might be harmless independent or town if he's Nunally.
there is a character who fits the first requirement, but being lynch immune and found guilty would make no sense at all
anyways
I have a more solid theory about a character being in the game
filler me in
 
I can’t comment on my character, BUT

Super shocked Jew is mafia. He’s been playing town. I think he awakened or something like Kiwi last game.

And
Vote lynch silverfire
 
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