Break Week Sake and Meat
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What was seen cannot be unseen. 
Now that you know that Luffy is the Big Mom of the new generation, that will always follow Luffy around.
I know that you would have no issues if the roles were reversed so this will bother you forever, I guess...
Now that you know that Luffy is the Big Mom of the new generation, that will always follow Luffy around.
I know that you would have no issues if the roles were reversed so this will bother you forever, I guess...
I mean, I either believe you are mocking everyone or that you truly believe this absurdity; which is better for you?
Oda didn't aim for them, don't be ridiculous. These aren't parallelisms, these are confirmation biases, spurious relationships and unsupported assumptions all over the place. The train of thought in this thread is idiotic and anybody buying it needs some lessons on how to think properly.
This is exactly why I said the dimwits applauding this thread need some lessons on rational thinking, starting by falsifiability, which is what always, always fails with people depending on finding similarities to make a case. It's a structural lack of reasoning abilities.
It's just exhaustion that so many people here are this malfunctioning. You guys are scaring great content away because you can't think beyond these idiocies, yet you seem happy to be wasting a community, as usual. That you are defending this crap isn't surpising, white goose: whenever I find a post of yours is kindergarten level anyways.
Whatever, seriously. I'll just try to focus on content that doesn't make my brain cells cringe.
Whatever, seriously. I'll just try to focus on content that doesn't make my brain cells cringe.
Why are you so butthurt about a harmless thread and throwing insults around?
If you disagree with @nik87, just ignore the thread or counter his arguments. If the arguments are such low quality and kindergarten level like you imply, then you should be able to easily counter them instead of crying and insulting others.
If you disagree with @nik87, just ignore the thread or counter his arguments. If the arguments are such low quality and kindergarten level like you imply, then you should be able to easily counter them instead of crying and insulting others.
Fine by me, I'm not even a Sanji fan.
You have no fact and your parallels are laughable. A minimum effort of a review:
Zoro isn't the strongest of his generation. Certainly not now, certainly not in the future with Luffy (minimum) around.
Big Mom was never the greatest name of her era. Xebec, Roger and Whitebeard, and now probably Kaido, all took that place while she has been a pirate.
Luffy is a haki master (at each level he's beyond Zoro, by the way) plus just has consistently made the fullest out of his devil fruit. Far from a master of none.
Luffy is the one here who consistently bounces back from facing death. We don't even know what the Reaper was. If there's a definition of someone hard to kill that's Luffy.
So has Luffy (Arlong and Hody; Crocodile; Doflamingo).
Everybody in One Piece has an animalistic theme.
Just some quick alternative lectures on what you assume to be intended parallels:
1 - Wano's villain "had" to be an oni and onis have to be drink lovers. In other words, Kaido and Zoro loving to drink is coincidence.
2 - Luffy is a food lover because of Goku (and probably beyond with a shared Sun Wukong inspiration) while Big Mom is a food lover because of the likely Ukemochi inspiration (goddess of food and fertility); plus many other food references in fairy tales.
3 - Whole Cake Island is Sanji arc and Wano is Zoro arc. Adding food to Big Mom's character reinforces Sanji's role.
On top of that, nowhere in the story has been addressed any comparison between Luffy-Zoro and Kaido-Big Mom on this basis. And this is the problem with focusing on similarities with no further thought: we can connect the dots between virtually anything if we don't go beyond the surface, like you did.
No argument supporting that the Soru Soru should be considered the most ridiculous ability.
Apart from the fact that we can make many counterarguments by focusing on the falsifiability of your hypothesis, such as Luffy being the actual Joy Boy while Kaido is portrayed as a failed one; Luffy and Kaido being both mythical zoan users with advanced forms of armament, observation and conqueror's; Big Mom and Zoro both using swords to fight and portrayed behind Kaido and Luffy...; Big Mom and Kaido are both emperors sharing an ally relationship while Zoro is Luffy's subordinate...
Again, making comparisons between these two pairs is absurd: not only yours are weak and simplistic, but counterexamples are found with ease. And more importantly: they're all different characters, no need to reduce them to Zoro cheap wank (which is clearly what you intend).
You have no fact and your parallels are laughable. A minimum effort of a review:
Zoro isn't the strongest of his generation. Certainly not now, certainly not in the future with Luffy (minimum) around.
Big Mom was never the greatest name of her era. Xebec, Roger and Whitebeard, and now probably Kaido, all took that place while she has been a pirate.
Luffy is a haki master (at each level he's beyond Zoro, by the way) plus just has consistently made the fullest out of his devil fruit. Far from a master of none.
Luffy is the one here who consistently bounces back from facing death. We don't even know what the Reaper was. If there's a definition of someone hard to kill that's Luffy.
So has Luffy (Arlong and Hody; Crocodile; Doflamingo).
Everybody in One Piece has an animalistic theme.
Just some quick alternative lectures on what you assume to be intended parallels:
1 - Wano's villain "had" to be an oni and onis have to be drink lovers. In other words, Kaido and Zoro loving to drink is coincidence.
2 - Luffy is a food lover because of Goku (and probably beyond with a shared Sun Wukong inspiration) while Big Mom is a food lover because of the likely Ukemochi inspiration (goddess of food and fertility); plus many other food references in fairy tales.
3 - Whole Cake Island is Sanji arc and Wano is Zoro arc. Adding food to Big Mom's character reinforces Sanji's role.
On top of that, nowhere in the story has been addressed any comparison between Luffy-Zoro and Kaido-Big Mom on this basis. And this is the problem with focusing on similarities with no further thought: we can connect the dots between virtually anything if we don't go beyond the surface, like you did.
No argument supporting that the Soru Soru should be considered the most ridiculous ability.
Apart from the fact that we can make many counterarguments by focusing on the falsifiability of your hypothesis, such as Luffy being the actual Joy Boy while Kaido is portrayed as a failed one; Luffy and Kaido being both mythical zoan users with advanced forms of armament, observation and conqueror's; Big Mom and Zoro both using swords to fight and portrayed behind Kaido and Luffy...; Big Mom and Kaido are both emperors sharing an ally relationship while Zoro is Luffy's subordinate...
Again, making comparisons between these two pairs is absurd: not only yours are weak and simplistic, but counterexamples are found with ease. And more importantly: they're all different characters, no need to reduce them to Zoro cheap wank (which is clearly what you intend).
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OH MY GOD THATS SO TRUE 
Zoro is also a depressed suicidal alcoholic that's jealous he couldn't be Mr main character Joyboy who will always be weaker than Luffy as he achieves the things Zoro can't, They are so identical..........or did I just describe all the toxic Zoro fans in this thread.....hmmm same thing I guess.
Zoro is also a depressed suicidal alcoholic that's jealous he couldn't be Mr main character Joyboy who will always be weaker than Luffy as he achieves the things Zoro can't, They are so identical..........or did I just describe all the toxic Zoro fans in this thread.....hmmm same thing I guess.
It's not butthurt but exhaustion from such crappy content to be seen over and over in this community; which is why I barely participate, anyways.
His arguments are just random; I wouldn't even call "counter" what I just did in my previous post because all his points feel like someone trying to convince me on all swans being white just because he never paid attention to the black ones. Just like you don't debate flat-earthers because their points are too much of a mess for a serious counterargument to be done.
As I said, a reasoning style that was refuted decades ago; reasoning based on similarities is arguably one of the dumbest methods of thought because it ultimately favors verifiability over falsifiability. Sad to see it's still around, but again, the average person doesn't know how to think, so not surpising.
His arguments are just random; I wouldn't even call "counter" what I just did in my previous post because all his points feel like someone trying to convince me on all swans being white just because he never paid attention to the black ones. Just like you don't debate flat-earthers because their points are too much of a mess for a serious counterargument to be done.
As I said, a reasoning style that was refuted decades ago; reasoning based on similarities is arguably one of the dumbest methods of thought because it ultimately favors verifiability over falsifiability. Sad to see it's still around, but again, the average person doesn't know how to think, so not surpising.
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OH MY GOD THATS SO TRUE
Zoro is also a depressed suicidal alcoholic that's jealous he couldn't be Mr main character Joyboy who will always be weaker than Luffy as he achieves the things Zoro can't, They are so identical..........or did I just describe all the toxic Zoro fans in this thread.....hmmm same thing I guess.
Zoro is also a depressed suicidal alcoholic that's jealous he couldn't be Mr main character Joyboy who will always be weaker than Luffy as he achieves the things Zoro can't, They are so identical..........or did I just describe all the toxic Zoro fans in this thread.....hmmm same thing I guess.
Except his goal is literally to be World's Strongest... 
Keep Looney Tunes Luffy out of World's Strongest business.
He doesnt belong there, just like Big Mom doesnt.
She is literally the greatest pirate name in the post-Whitebeard era, lmao.
Kaido isnt anywhere close to the greatest pirate name compared to LinLin.
He can do everything, just like LinLin can.
And he is just as incompetent.
Jacks of all trades, masters of none, indeed.
And then there is Zoro who takes all of Luffy damaji on top of his own and says No to Death on that day.
Reaper was Death, it is obvious but I know y'all want it cousin Brook to be instead.
Your boy Sanjino is the one who said that Zoro is hard to kill and even called him a thing, just like people call Kaido.
Zoro beat Hody first.
There is no better representative of Land than Landmass Pica himself.
King, the ruler of skies is strongest than any character Luffy has ever beaten, by a huge margin.
Land, sea or air, always bet on Zoro. Never bet on Luffy, he loses countless times and needs tons of help.
Are they also the animal that is a natural enemy of Kaido's animal? No, Zoro is.
Let me guess, Oda didnt spell it out for ya so you couldnt put 2 and 2 together?
25 years and you still dont know that Luffy has nakama and not subordinates?
You are a low-effort troll.
Keep Looney Tunes Luffy out of World's Strongest business.
He doesnt belong there, just like Big Mom doesnt.
She is literally the greatest pirate name in the post-Whitebeard era, lmao.
Kaido isnt anywhere close to the greatest pirate name compared to LinLin.
He can do everything, just like LinLin can.
And he is just as incompetent.
Jacks of all trades, masters of none, indeed.
And then there is Zoro who takes all of Luffy damaji on top of his own and says No to Death on that day.
Reaper was Death, it is obvious but I know y'all want it cousin Brook to be instead.
Your boy Sanjino is the one who said that Zoro is hard to kill and even called him a thing, just like people call Kaido.
Zoro beat Hody first.
There is no better representative of Land than Landmass Pica himself.
King, the ruler of skies is strongest than any character Luffy has ever beaten, by a huge margin.
Land, sea or air, always bet on Zoro. Never bet on Luffy, he loses countless times and needs tons of help.
Are they also the animal that is a natural enemy of Kaido's animal? No, Zoro is.
Let me guess, Oda didnt spell it out for ya so you couldnt put 2 and 2 together?
25 years and you still dont know that Luffy has nakama and not subordinates?
You are a low-effort troll.
Except his goal is literally to be World's Strongest...
Keep Looney Tunes Luffy out of World's Strongest business.
He doesnt belong there, just like Big Mom doesnt.
Keep Looney Tunes Luffy out of World's Strongest business.
He doesnt belong there, just like Big Mom doesnt.
World strongest my ass, got snubbed to one of the real strongest
looney tunes luffy will lol diff EOS zolo, ya'll fools wouldn't even like it. :cheers: