Future Events Sanji defeats King and Luffer defeats Kaido

#61
I knew he's about ti say USSOP is not King..


He's SOGE king.. what u on about..

aren't they characters form the same story.. if thay reality doesn't apply to king then it just straight up inconsistent writing...

Ussops nose break easily coz their fragile

King's beak bent coz he got competition and.. he supposed has a disgraceful beak..

sanji has fought worthy blade users.. that includes Diafuku.. who sliced a whole fleet.. and sanji stopped the same attack but with kuch larger force.. with no hardening visible .

sanji stopped his father's blade which has an initial momentum to it.. even Judge noted that he stopped it just bare legs and ARNAMENT haki..

Soo yea he's pretty dope at that....

sanji and king are close quarter combatant.... there is no such info that confirms that sanj gets his ass whopped by king mid diff... but there is that bent beak fuss between them... even with king's intentions he failed..

well dw when time comes they shall clash..

Ussop and king are different characters, so they'll act differently with different personalities, just cause they are from the same series doesn't mean they act and think the same way, what fucking logic are you using.

Daifuku and judge are worthy opponent? well I guess you're right considering simpji level, they can be seen that way.

Yeah close quarters combat and king has a sword and definitely better coa, is physically stronger more lethality, I don't see how judge's son is winning this matchup. The bent beak is nothing but pure headcanon.
Nah simpji ain't fighting king stop dreaming.
 
#62
Ussop and king are different characters, so they'll act differently with different personalities, just cause they are from the same series doesn't mean they act and think the same way, what fucking logic are you using.

Daifuku and judge are worthy opponent? well I guess you're right considering simpji level, they can be seen that way.

Yeah close quarters combat and king has a sword and definitely better coa, is physically stronger more lethality, I don't see how judge's son is winning this matchup. The bent beak is nothing but pure headcanon.
Nah simpji ain't fighting king stop dreaming.
ehm Daifuku is the 3rd son of BM... and we know what first 2 are capable of.. and the 4th has the toughest physique and sanji damaged him with a normal strike...

btw there is no point in arguing about ussop and king... it obvious that his beak is bent... leave it to oda to point it out when they face eachother...

Judge and his children were the ones who took the full brunt of BMP Officers in the island luffy and sanji escaped from... those officers includes Oven, Snack and others...
and someone with scientific knowledge wouldn't make a blade that won't be able to penetrate haki but to the contrary ... especially in the new world.. plus attacks with an initial momentum should be fatal for someone who uses his bare body to defend.... exactly why sanji got his leg snapped when he was nerfed severely against vegro..



exactly why said that you're oblivious when it comes to sanji.. you would low ball any character he came across to basically prove your point.. i mean he's not commander level? .. . and yet was acknowledged by someone who the admirals be chasing..
 
#64
ehm Daifuku is the 3rd son of BM... and we know what first 2 are capable of.. and the 4th has the toughest physique and sanji damaged him with a normal strike...

btw there is no point in arguing about ussop and king... it obvious that his beak is bent... leave it to oda to point it out when they face eachother...

Judge and his children were the ones who took the full brunt of BMP Officers in the island luffy and sanji escaped from... those officers includes Oven, Snack and others...
and someone with scientific knowledge wouldn't make a blade that won't be able to penetrate haki but to the contrary ... especially in the new world.. plus attacks with an initial momentum should be fatal for someone who uses his bare body to defend.... exactly why sanji got his leg snapped when he was nerfed severely against vegro..



exactly why said that you're oblivious when it comes to sanji.. you would low ball any character he came across to basically prove your point.. i mean he's not commander level? .. . and yet was acknowledged by someone who the admirals be chasing..

So he's the third son, what of it? He's not a commander lvl character like katakuri is he, whatever judge's son did to them means Jackshit in front of commanders, they're on different levels, don't use those "feats" against oven daifuku and conclude that he'll do the same to a commander.

Sure whatever you say, if the beak was bent oda would have pointed it out right then and there. Why say nothing.

Tells you a lot about the BMP officers if five vinsmoke's were able to hold them off, it's either the vinsmoke's are strong or the BMP officers are weak.

someone with scientific knowledge wouldn't make a blade that won't be able to penetrate haki but to the contrary ... especially in the new world..
Where was this stated in the manga?

plus attacks with an initial momentum should be fatal for someone who uses his bare body to defend.... exactly why sanji got his leg snapped when he was nerfed severely against vegro..
I assume you're talking about king pummeling judge's son ass to the ground here. Simpji didn't tank that hit with his bare body, it was thanks to his RS that he even survived it, and talking about momentum, if what you say about the beak bending is true, shouldn't we be amazed and applaud king for having such devastating force that he bent his own beak when he nose dive with it, what did Sanji do here to bend the beak of king, we didn't see him do anything but scream of how there'd be a hole in his stomach and crash land to ground.
If those fodders were able to deal that much damage to Sanji that his body was severely weakened to the point where's he is considered severely nerf by his fans then that's just means he was that weak to begin with. Don't you think so? Vergo cracked his bones simply because he isn't strong enough to deal with it.

What do you want from me? I'm used to witnessing stronger character fight, don't blame me that your favourite character is weak and is fighting weak opponents. They're not commander level, simple, That's just how it is.
You're gonna have to jog my memory here cause I don't remember who this person that an admiral was after that complemented him.
 
#65
So he's the third son, what of it? He's not a commander lvl character like katakuri is he, whatever judge's son did to them means Jackshit in front of commanders, they're on different levels, don't use those "feats" against oven daifuku and conclude that he'll do the same to a commander.

Sure whatever you say, if the beak was bent oda would have pointed it out right then and there. Why say nothing.

Tells you a lot about the BMP officers if five vinsmoke's were able to hold them off, it's either the vinsmoke's are strong or the BMP officers are weak.



Where was this stated in the manga?



I assume you're talking about king pummeling judge's son ass to the ground here. Simpji didn't tank that hit with his bare body, it was thanks to his RS that he even survived it, and talking about momentum, if what you say about the beak bending is true, shouldn't we be amazed and applaud king for having such devastating force that he bent his own beak when he nose dive with it, what did Sanji do here to bend the beak of king, we didn't see him do anything but scream of how there'd be a hole in his stomach and crash land to ground.
If those fodders were able to deal that much damage to Sanji that his body was severely weakened to the point where's he is considered severely nerf by his fans then that's just means he was that weak to begin with. Don't you think so? Vergo cracked his bones simply because he isn't strong enough to deal with it.

What do you want from me? I'm used to witnessing stronger character fight, don't blame me that your favourite character is weak and is fighting weak opponents. They're not commander level, simple, That's just how it is.
You're gonna have to jog my memory here cause I don't remember who this person that an admiral was after that complemented him.
what i meant in a nutshell was that your perspective is shallow and flawed and you're not well informed... there are still irrational and bias claims made throughout what u said..
 
#66
what i meant in a nutshell is that yiur perspective is shallow and flawed and you're not well informed.
And you're so deep, perfect and well informed that you mistook his "feats" against non commander level and somehow concluded that he'll be able to do the same to higher level fighters.
Very brilliant, truly magnificent.
 
#67
And you're so deep, perfect and well informed that you mistook his "feats" against non commander level and somehow concluded that he'll be able to do the same to higher level fighters.
Very brilliant, truly magnificent.
look now the notion of scaling people through commander lvl is obsolete and inconsistent and this has become the current most popular opinion among the community.... and this message just shown how less you know about characters before u deduce anything... SANCKS THE PREVIOUS COMMANDER WAS UNDER OVEN'S FLEET IN THE LAST BATTLE.. and among those who were leading fleets were Smoother and Daifuku.... feats wise Daifuku forms his sturdy base as top fighter in BMP... he sliced his own fleet with one slice... that is admirable.. portrayal wise he is on the top brass of BMP with oven up there too... even jimbe acknowledges that and bege who have been in BMO for a while..

you're just undermining characters just coz they don't do enough.. if thats the case even Smoothie should be entitled with her position.. like bruh..
 
#69
Luffy defeats Kaido
Zoro defeats King and kills Kaido
Chopper defeats Queen
Sanji & Usopp defeat Page One (foreshadowed with Sanji protecting Usopp and a callback to the Satori fight)
Page.... omg page.... top tier yonko snot lvl brat... wasn't he getting juggled by sanji during Soba Mask debut?... i'd rather ussop defeats page himself with some 500iq sniping... sanji has better stuff to do.. plus he won't be on the 3rd level of the castle if pay pay vs sanji was even a remote possibility.
 
#70
Page.... omg page.... top tier yonko snot lvl brat... wasn't he getting juggled by sanji during Soba Mask debut?... i'd rather ussop defeats page himself with some 500iq sniping... sanji has better stuff to do.. plus he won't be on the 3rd level of the castle if pay pay vs sanji was even a remote possibility.
I'd rather Usopp protect Sanji this time around.
 
#72
look now the notion of scaling people through commander lvl is obsolete and inconsistent and this has become the current most popular opinion among the community.... and this message just shown how less you know about characters before u deduce anything... SANCKS THE PREVIOUS COMMANDER WAS UNDER OVEN'S FLEET IN THE LAST BATTLE.. and among those who were leading fleets were Smoother and Daifuku.... feats wise Daifuku forms his sturdy base as top fighter in BMP... he sliced his own fleet with one slice... that is admirable.. portrayal wise he is on the top brass of BMP with oven up there too... even jimbe acknowledges that and bege who have been in BMO for a while..

you're just undermining characters just coz they don't do enough.. if thats the case even Smoothie should be entitled with her position.. like bruh..

Do tell what this other method of powerscaling that's better. Yeah, "Previous Commander" he got demoted when he lost to uroge, and just because he's under oven in rank, doesn't necessarily mean that oven is stronger, look at zombie ryuma and absalom, he's under absalom group, but zombie ryuma was stronger than Absalom. Which chapter is this feat performed by daifuku in exactly? I only remember smoothie slicing a ship.

I just don't think that saying judge's son will fight a commander alone and beat them is feasible when you used the feat from his clash with oven, daifuku as a reason for your conclusion, not to mention he didn't do any significant damage to them, oven was completely fine after that attack and daifuku wasn't shocked when his sword swing was blocked. If I use that logic then Zoro is admiral level for clashing with fujitora, overpowering his gravity and was capable of pushing him a fair distance away with a one sword style move.
 
#79
People should've atleast been open to the idea of Sanji vs Queen cause the chances of it happening were always high. I'm glad it's started so the "Sanji vs x person" stuff has ended. Sanji's taking on a Calamity and hopefully he doesn't get any help and if that's the case, I'll be content with that. Luffy will make his return soon enough so I'm looking forward to that.
 
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