Speculations Sanji is the only one capable of defeating Queen

[ShadyOjiro]

Again with this???? He low diffed a Tobbi Roppo. How can someone who's not a Top YC low diff a Tobbi Roppo? You guys have a skewed perspective on what a "YC2" is. They are not that strong.

Cracker countered Boundman, because Oda wanted to showcase Tankman. It's that simple. Stop using that as some fucked up proof of combat ability. Queen did worse than Jinbe against Big Mom.

"Low diff"


When we see characters as Holdem easily return (who as we know was beaten by Luffy)saying P1 is done for is quite dumb tbh.

Even more with the revelation of Drake being part of the marine.

If the image of YC2 is a you say "skewed" just imagine the idea of a Toppi Toppo....

 

[Chrono]

Again with this???? He low diffed a Tobbi Roppo. How can someone who's not a Top YC low diff a Tobbi Roppo? You guys have a skewed perspective on what a "YC2" is. They are not that strong.

Cracker countered Boundman, because Oda wanted to showcase Tankman. It's that simple. Stop using that as some fucked up proof of combat ability. Queen did worse than Jinbe against Big Mom.

Maybe because Meme was nerfed when Jinbe hit her.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

"Low diff"

When we see characters as Holdem easily return (who as we know was beaten by Luffy)saying P1 is done for is quite dumb tbh.

Even more with the revelation of Drake being part of the marine.

It's not at all dumb when Oda had Sanji say before the fight that he needed to take out one of their forces before the final battle!
There is no evidence to suggest that Page 1 is still kicking, but there's a heck of a lot of evidence to conclude that Sanji dealt with him quite easily. The only ones who seem to be putting forth a narrative for Page 1's return seem to be hardcore Zorofans.

And, honestly, the only reason that people put forth this narrative is that they want to propagate the claim that Sanji is still weaker than Vergo despite the fact that we had three arcs of almost 300 chapters where the SH's grow from each Island they visit and Sanji's been to Dresrossa, Zou, WCI and now Wano, where he got a huge powerup.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Not really because even if Oven can neutralize the viruses (Which I am sure he can), he still needs to deal with Queen's other powers.

Yep and Sanji doesn't have required DC to deal against Queen. Queen can survive Big Mom's rampage, which means Sanji can kick him all day and still doing nothing to Queen's body.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

Yep and Sanji doesn't have required DC to deal against Queen. Queen can survive Big Mom's rampage, which means Sanji can kick him all day and still doing nothing to Queen's body.

We haven't seen all that the RS can do, so it is not really an accurate assessment to say that Sanji doesn't have any DC feats to take out Queen. For one, we don't know the potency of his attacks when the raid suit and DJ are combined not to mention how HM is going to be affected by the RS either. Until, we have seen Sanji's full capabilities with the raid suit, you can't say that his DC is insufficient.

Also, Queen was eating non-haki'd fists from BM and was reeling, so it isn't all that impressive. Oda stated that Sanji along with Luffy was able to offset the power of BM's punch with DJ alone and this was with Zeus as well and that was Sanji defending himself not going on the offensive. Now with the acceleration granted by the suit and hardness of the suit as well combined with Sanji's kicking ability not counting any improvements to DJ from the Raid Suit, I am not sure you could conclude that.

Also Sanji in water 7 barely was able to break the tekkai of Blueno but the next day was tangoing with Jabra whose Tekkai was 3 times more potent than Blueno. The point being that if Oda wants a SH to win against an opponent, he will make that happen.

Also, the reason why I said Oven is incapable of beating Queen is that we know that he is a veteran level character and hence can't beat a commander level character.

 

[sanjikun]

Yep and Sanji doesn't have required DC to deal against Queen. Queen can survive Big Mom's rampage, which means Sanji can kick him all day and still doing nothing to Queen's body.

Queen got KOed with

(1) no Haki

(2) no named attack

(3) no DF

(4) no weapon

That was the most embarrassing combat display ever put forth by a big name pirate. Saying Sanji doesn't have the DC to KO him is blasphemy.

 

[Topi Jerami]

We haven't seen all that the RS can do, so it is not really an accurate assessment to say that Sanji doesn't have any DC feats to take out Queen. For one, we don't know the potency of his attacks when the raid suit and DJ are combined not to mention how HM is going to be affected by the RS either. Until, we have seen Sanji's full capabilities with the raid suit, you can't say that his DC is insufficient.

Also, Queen was eating non-haki'd fists from BM and was reeling, so it isn't all that impressive. Oda stated that Sanji along with Luffy was able to offset the power of BM's punch with DJ alone and this was with Zeus as well and that was Sanji defending himself not going on the offensive. Now with the acceleration granted by the suit and hardness of the suit as well combined with Sanji's kicking ability not counting any improvements to DJ from the Raid Suit, I am not sure you could conclude that.

Also Sanji in water 7 barely was able to break the tekkai of Blueno but the next day was tangoing with Jabra whose Tekkai was 3 times more potent than Blueno. The point being that if Oda wants a SH to win against an opponent, he will make that happen.

Also, the reason why I said Oven is incapable of beating Queen is that we know that he is a veteran level character and hence can't beat a commander level character.

Jack, who is ranked lower than Queen survived:
- fighting against an island of Natutal Born Warriors, fighting their dukes for 5 days non stop
- fighting the greatest manpower of the Navy, Admiral Fujitora, Former Fleet Admiral Sengoku, and Vice Admiral Tsuru. Still managed to sink half of their fleets despite the legendary names' appearance there
- Fighting a hundred years old, island sized beast
- Fighting Wanokuni's strongest scabbard
And neither of them all managed to make Jack out of the game!!!

And now you are saying that Jack's senior, Queen, will be soloed and defeated by tiny Sanji and his trash suit????

 

[kurwa]

Jack, who is ranked lower than Queen survived:
- fighting against an island of Natutal Born Warriors, fighting their dukes for 5 days non stop
- fighting the greatest manpower of the Navy, Admiral Fujitora, Former Fleet Admiral Sengoku, and Vice Admiral Tsuru. Still managed to sink half of their fleets despite the legendary names' appearance there
- Fighting a hundred years old, island sized beast
- Fighting Wanokuni's strongest scabbard
And neither of them all managed to make Jack out of the game!!!

And now you are saying that Jack's senior, Queen, will be soloed and defeated by tiny Sanji and his trash suit????

So no one will beat them?

Commanders can only be beaten by Luffy?

 

[sanjikun]

Jack, who is ranked lower than Queen survived:
- fighting against an island of Natutal Born Warriors, fighting their dukes for 5 days non stop
- fighting the greatest manpower of the Navy, Admiral Fujitora, Former Fleet Admiral Sengoku, and Vice Admiral Tsuru. Still managed to sink half of their fleets despite the legendary names' appearance there
- Fighting a hundred years old, island sized beast
- Fighting Wanokuni's strongest scabbard
And neither of them all managed to make Jack out of the game!!!

And now you are saying that Jack's senior, Queen, will be soloed and defeated by tiny Sanji and his trash suit????

You mean this Jack?

Yeah. Yes he can.

 

[kurwa]

You mean this Jack?

Yeah. Yes he can.

Even with the W Jack is still Wack

 

[Topi Jerami]

So no one will beat them?

Commanders can only be beaten by Luffy?

They will be defeated by tag teams.
Anyone don't actually believe the Calamities who have hummiliated Big Mom will be taken down in 1 vs 1 by these Wano alliances.

You mean this Jack?

Yeah. Yes he can.

Panel proves nothing.
Jack can be injured, but he endures it like a God. The current Endurance God.

 

[Inspector_Mu]

Again with this???? He low diffed a Tobbi Roppo. How can someone who's not a Top YC low diff a Tobbi Roppo? You guys have a skewed perspective on what a "YC2" is. They are not that strong.

Cracker countered Boundman, because Oda wanted to showcase Tankman. It's that simple. Stop using that as some fucked up proof of combat ability. Queen did worse than Jinbe against Big Mom.

Cracker countered Boundman coz Boundman is crap to beat his defensive skills

Post automatically merged: Jan 7, 2020

So cracker fighting Boundman isnt combat proof of him being powerful

But Doffy getting pummeled is combat proof? Lol

Typical sanjikun who still cant accept Boundman is trash to Cracker

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Sanji will fight King

Zolo will fight Queen or Kyoshiro

Why would Zoro fight Queen ?

 

[Chrono]

Why would Zoro fight Queen ?

Because Sanji always fights the FM of the arc after his own arc.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Because Sanji always fights the FM of the arc after his own arc.

 

[kurwa]

Why would Zoro fight Queen ?

Both 3rd highest bounty
Both have connection to Hiyori
Both 3rd strongest
Queen has the fruit that resembles Kaku's
Queen uses 2 swords
Both are grounded fighters

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Man, shit’s getting bad around here...are y’all so insecure that we really need another “SANJI-SAN OMG SO STRONK” thread every 45 minutes?

Sanji will fight Queen, unless he doesn’t, then he’ll end up fighting someone else in the Yonko alliance, unless he doesn’t do that either, then he’ll bake a cake that’ll make Big Mom faint, unless that ALSO doesn’t happen...like, God damn, chill out for a bit and let the manga run its course.

Whatever Oda decides to do with Sanji will end up working out and making sense; the same goes for Zoro and literally every other character in this story. It SEEMS likely that he’ll face Queen, but who really knows? All that is certain is we didn’t need YET ANOTHER THREAD about this topic when there are no fewer than two others on the front page of this section right now. Christ, before I read the actual post, I could have sworn this was more Chrono bullshit, but the disease seems to be spreading.

This wasn't a Sanji wank thread. Or at least it wasn't supposed to be one. The only thing I was trying to do was speculate how Sanji's fire abilities could theoretically counter Queen's plagues, making Sanji the only one capable of taking Queen on apart from the lead supernova(luffy, law, kid) who will obviously be fighting the yonko.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

This wasn't a Sanji wank thread. Or at least it wasn't supposed to be one. The only thing I was trying to do was speculate how Sanji's fire abilities could theoretically counter Queen's plagues, making Sanji the only one capable of taking Queen on apart from the lead supernova(luffy, law, kid) who will obviously be fighting the yonko.

Fair enough, sorry for snapping. Just seen a lot of overt wanking for seemingly no reason lately, so I made a snap judgment in error. I don’t disagree with the point you’re trying to make, there are a bunch of reasons why it makes sense for Sanji to take on Queen...Oda’s thrown us some curveballs before, but this seems predetermined since the start.

 

[Dr. Spook]

Queen uses plagues. Biological warfare. While chopper could create some cure for the plagues used by his subordinates, those were just the plagues used by his subordinates. He himself likely wields even stronger plagues. However, there is a counter to Queen's powers. Bacteria are killed by heat, meaning that people who have heat related powers can counter Queen. This is where sanji comes in.

With his ability, hell memories, Sanji engulfs his entire body in flames. Doing so, he could likely kill any of Queen's bacteria(or even viruses, those also get heat killed) that have infected him.

It is because of this, that sanji is the only person in the alliance capable of defeating Queen.

That may be true, but it doesn't apply to all bacteria.

Thermophilic bacteria have the capability of surviving temperatures that are even 5 times the heat compared to normal bacteria in the real world.. and if we're going by One Piece standards, said bacteria could even survive in temperatures a lot more than this.... Hell, Nami was afflicted by a virus that existed in pre-historic times in Little Garden, so it's not impossible to assume such things could occur.

I'm not discrediting your way of thinking though, as it makes sense.. but if Sanji fights Queen and has the advantage of killing Queen's viruses using his fire, Queen will definitely have something up in his sleeve against Sanji.. and I'm talking about thermophilic types of bacteria.. it'll prove to be disastrous for him.

 

[Worst]

It will be these guys vs Queen