Magellan is literally an existence to be feared though, Shiryu could very well defeat Magellan and still die on later from the incurable kinjite poison that guarantees 100% death if landed.
it actually does.. even if match ups matter.. a post dressros luffy with better gear 4 control had an extreme diff fight.. a near YC1 luffy that is against Yc3 cracker .. and its just a matter of time Queen hype's his defenses up so that sanji can break through them..if he can then ultimately he can bypass Craker's defenses too with better DJ and Haki.. so his offense should be on par with gear 4 luffy which honestly is a requirement to beat Queen
sanji has already countered FS against katakuri.. with his speed and CoO on display atm in manga.. sanji has the tools to counter Doffy's strings and Katakuri's Mochi..
ultimately a YC1
Interesting... I got homework for you guys...
Put your brains together and figure out why Sanji who beats Queen(based on current skillset) cant beat Cracker, Doffy, Katakuri and King.
No need to rush but let me know why if you ever come up with an answer.
Interesting... I got homework for you guys...
Put your brains together and figure out why Sanji who beats Queen(based on current skillset) cant beat Cracker, Doffy, Katakuri and King.
No need to rush but let me know why if you ever come up with an answer.
Nope. Yonko level is not something given out like candy. There are very few given the title of Great Pirate in this manga. It's not going to be fucking Sanji or Jinbei or Yamato.
Interesting... I got homework for you guys...
Put your brains together and figure out why Sanji who beats Queen(based on current skillset) cant beat Cracker, Doffy, Katakuri and King.
No need to rush but let me know why if you ever come up with an answer.
Nope. Yonko level is not something given out like candy. There are very few given the title of Great Pirate in this manga. It's not going to be fucking Sanji or Jinbei or Yamato.
Even so, Shiryu = Magellan is pretty clear, and that’s very impressive considering what Magellan did in Impel Down. And Shiryu was that strong without having a broken DF. So going back to how the argument started- he is certainly no Enel relying on his DF to be strong. Of the two, that’s more Magellan
Even so, Shiryu = Magellan is pretty clear, and that’s very impressive considering what Magellan did in Impel Down. And Shiryu was that strong without having a broken DF. So going back to how the argument started- he is certainly no Enel relying on his DF to be strong. Of the two, that’s more Magellan
That makes him fairly strong ngl but still, 2 years and a suke suke no mi (which is a rather mediocre df), wont make him stay close to EoS Zoro in strength.
There is no such thing as YC1, YC2, etc. I wish people would stop with this imaginary tier. Also what exactly is the difference in strength between a Yonko and an Admiral??? And finally, I don't foresee any admirals losing in this series. They may fight to a draw with someone but I don't see a definitive winner in a battle.
That makes him fairly strong ngl but still, 2 years and a suke suke no mi (which is a rather mediocre df), wont make him stay close to EoS Zoro in strength.
Bringing back Absalom’s DF and giving it to Shiryu is a pretty clear sign to me that Absalom was not using it to anywhere near it’s full potential. If it was a mediocre fruit, then why would Oda give it to Shiryu? Why give him this supposedly poor fruit when everyone was expecting diamond Shiryu?
I think we’ll be seeing Shiryu use it to levels that Absalom barely even dreamed of. An Awakened invisible fruit could be hax, not only would Shiryu be invisible, but he could make everything around him invisible. Imagine trying to fight a guy with Ray/Oden level physical ability, plus the ability to not only turn himself invisible, but turn everything around him invisible. He might even be able to turn Zoro invisible, so Zoro can’t even see his own body or tell where he’s standing. There’s a lot of things that can be done with Shiryu’s fruit that’ll force Zoro to use high levels of CoO as well as CoC and CoA.
And it’s not like Shiryu’s been idle for two years, him and the rest of the crew at the least have conquered most of Whitebeard’s old territory and beaten his crew (with Shiryu presumably beating either Jozu or Vista, depending on how strong one-armed Jozu is). And there’s something huge to come for the Blackbeard Pirates to boost Blackbeard’s bounty up past everyone else.
If Shiryu is Zoro’s final fight, you can be sure Oda will deliver on making him the biggest possible challenge. The thing with the Blackbeard Pirates that has to be remembered is, unlike most other villains, they haven’t hit their peak yet. Like the Strawhats, they are rising in strength as the series goes on.
Bringing back Absalom’s DF and giving it to Shiryu is a pretty clear sign to me that Absalom was not using it to anywhere near it’s full potential. If it was a mediocre fruit, then why would Oda give it to Shiryu? Why give him this supposedly poor fruit when everyone was expecting diamond Shiryu?
I think we’ll be seeing Shiryu use it to levels that Absalom barely even dreamed of. An Awakened invisible fruit could be hax, not only would Shiryu be invisible, but he could make everything around him invisible. Imagine trying to fight a guy with Ray/Oden level physical ability, plus the ability to not only turn himself invisible, but turn everything around him invisible. He might even be able to turn Zoro invisible, so Zoro can’t even see his own body or tell where he’s standing. There’s a lot of things that can be done with Shiryu’s fruit that’ll force Zoro to use high levels of CoO as well as CoC and CoA.
And it’s not like Shiryu’s been idle for two years, him and the rest of the crew at the least have conquered most of Whitebeard’s old territory and beaten his crew (with Shiryu presumably beating either Jozu or Vista, depending on how strong one-armed Jozu is). And there’s something huge to come for the Blackbeard Pirates to boost Blackbeard’s bounty up past everyone else.
If Shiryu is Zoro’s final fight, you can be sure Oda will deliver on making him the biggest possible challenge. The thing with the Blackbeard Pirates that has to be remembered is, unlike most other villains, they haven’t hit their peak yet. Like the Strawhats, they are rising in strength as the series goes on.
Post TS he is 44 years old (42 before the ts) so he is basically in his prime or very very close to it. He is basically as old as Mihawk, do you sew Hawk-eyed getting much stronger during the TS? Because I don't. My point is: Suke looks like a rather mediocre df once you get CoO and 2 years isn't enough to go from Magellan level to Pre Ray level.
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