[FNZ] Role Madness [Season 2] Round 13 - Harry Potter

[Nick]

So the tinfoil of the day is gram is mafia (janitor) who hinted I was town because they know I’m Harry already from what they were told by host. He was caught visiting dest who was killed and janitored and then he outed himself as Ginny who could have been dest janitored role and claimed it. Then was blocked tonight by xlaw and there was no janitored kill.

therefore we think mafia always knew I was Harry to use to their advantage and gram is actually mafia janitor.

I say this isn’t the worst idea I’ve heard and could be very plausible

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I wanna reiterate that Mel (scum) knew who I (townie) was in the FMA game - even though my role didn’t mention her at all - and was able to use a janitored role to convince me and everyone else for a while that she actually was who she said she was, so make of that what y’all will.

 

[Fujishiro]

He later said it needed a claim to work.

Did Gram and Dest interract D1?

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

It cant be the Rej kill it was a super kill

But do you think Scums would have two Super Kills same night phase?
Will simple role block stop it?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

2 scenario then:

Gram visited as Ginny Dest to check him out, did he claim why he did that btw and what results he got?, and someone else visited him and janitored him so a minimum of 3 people visited Dest that night.

Gram knows who Nick is, the whole mafia does, and they used it to gain town points with him and us, then visited Dest to janitor him and when caught he fell back on the Ginny claim and him saying Nick is town for a mechanical reason D1.


I wanna know what Gram got as a result of visiting Dest.

He didn’t get one because he needed to ask Dest a question for it to work. That’s my understanding. Which is pretty convenient..

 

[Nick]

But do you think Scums would have two Super Kills same night phase?
Will simple role block stop it?

No that’s why I pointed out the fail on Rej wasn’t from xlaw blocking gram. His block could only be for the janitor ability that didn’t happen.

 

[Fujishiro]

He later said it needed a claim to work.

Claim of what? If its a role claim then that invest and ability has no point and makes no sense.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Did Gram and Dest interract D1?

Dest didn’t interact with anyone D1. He just sheeped the leading wagon and said he’d catch up next phase.

 

[Nick]

Does anyone believe that one of the hocruxes could have been the reason kills were being janitored?

 

[Fujishiro]

Does anyone believe that one of the hocruxes could have been the reason kills were being janitored?

Idk man , ill have to read up on the WUs to understand what determines Horcrux destruction.

So the tinfoil of the day is gram is mafia (janitor) who hinted I was town because they know I’m Harry already from what they were told by host. He was caught visiting dest who was killed and janitored and then he outed himself as Ginny who could have been dest janitored role and claimed it. Then was blocked tonight by xlaw and there was no janitored kill.

therefore we think mafia always knew I was Harry to use to their advantage and gram is actually mafia janitor.

I say this isn’t the worst idea I’ve heard and could be very plausible

Also Gram was rbed last night and no janitoring happened.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Gramma has claimed that his investigation works when compared to a claim. Think of it like a boolean test. He doesn't investigate posts, he targets a player and, when they claim, he has his investigation to compare it to. Similarly, if he investigates someone who has claimed, his investigation will give him something with which to compare it. This was discussed earlier in the day.

This is how Ratchet understood it @Fuji

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

@Ryu Kishi may have had TMI with the lynch on Rej failing.


This came after he saw that Rej was leading wagon and voted Rej.

He was tinfoiling Rej lynch would fail for while last day phase. But don't really think he would announce that and then vote if he were scum. He could be, bt this don't add up imo.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Does anyone believe that one of the hocruxes could have been the reason kills were being janitored?

It sounds possible, but not something we can verify in any way at this point.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

He was tinfoiling Rej lynch would fail for while last day phase. But don't really think he would announce that and then vote if he were scum. He could be, bt this don't add up imo.

He said that right after he voted Rej. But way earlier he tinfoiled that it would destroy votes. I thought it was worth bringing back up at least.

 

[Fujishiro]

This is how Ratchet understood it @Fuji

Thats a useless ability then and makes no sense, if your ability only works when someone claims then it becomes very hard to verify it. Unless someone fake claims to trap them. Likely scenario is mafia has a role cop and they came up with this convoluted story.


Though the one problem i have is if Mafia gets to know the role of the people they janitor or not, if they do then i think it wouldve been easier for Gram to claim role cop or ability cop instead and then results on Dests role, thats the one thing that gives me pause here.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Thats a useless ability then and makes no sense, if your ability only works when someone claims then it becomes very hard to verify it. Unless someone fake claims to trap them. Likely scenario is mafia has a role cop and they came up with this convoluted story.


Though the one problem i have is if Mafia gets to know the role of the people they janitor or not, if they do then i think it wouldve been easier for Gram to claim role cop or ability cop instead and then results on Dests role, thats the one thing that gives me pause here.

If he did then he couldn’t claim Ginny.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Assuming Dest was Ginny in this hypothetical.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Grammaton : Seraphoenix.

Damn he subbed out, can't even ask why he didn't vote Rej.
For record he n Ratchet had Rej townie since D1. Whether good or bad.

Do you guys think scums voted Rej easily knowing lynch would fail, or they knew we might think that way and tried resisting voting Rej anyway?
There's also second possibility, scums didn't start the fire. Malfoy did. But Rej behavior made it pretty obvious imo he knew Lynch would fail. So it's mute.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Like D1 was between Don and Sera right, and Don flipped town so why would Rej decide that bding himself with someone that may get vigged is a good idea lmao.

Sounds pretty easy right. Was not to Town yesterday when i was pushing this shit.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Damn he subbed out, can't even ask why he didn't vote Rej.
For record he n Ratchet had Rej townie since D1. Whether good or bad.

Do you guys think scums voted Rej easily knowing lynch would fail, or they knew we might think that way and tried resisting voting Rej anyway?

I was also considering this and trying to digest how likely I thought it could be.