Others Season Finale - The Last Weeb

[Random Asshole]

I seem to have missed some posts of yours.

>1343 pages
>26,856 posts
>losing track of one person's posts

 

[Ratchet]

I proposed we test Queen Nana by shooting her with the chance of at least saving her role if she's Town. Which a certain somebody can do.

Never fear!

I mean, I expect she'll be shot regardless, so if this is how it goes I have no issues here.

 

[MangoSenpai]

Good Morning Mango!


hmmm

how long till day ends?

Uhh still some hours left, like 5 or 6 I think

 

[Ultra]

Getting info on the first try wouldn't inform us much, though. Assuming that she is telling the truth about her passive, the large margin of votes on her wouldn't help us narrow down on any suspects that easily. Lynching again on the second try in the council, may or may not fail because the assumption in this case is that she's telling the truth. In which case, the second info isn't guaranteed.

On the assumption that she's scum and lying about this while in actuality having only a single lynch save or none at all, then prioritizing both, Xlaw, and Nana is better here. If Nana survives the council, making her flip and from her role may give us info on the council, and if she fails, well that's a win. We put ourselves in a position where we have/can effectively eliminate two scum reads that wouldn't keep pinging us at the back of our minds if left otherwise.

It wouldn't? Maybe not immediately, but over time, as more players die off, that info can come in handy as a checklist on existing players, if there's a ballpark of how many scum were in a given pool.

I'd actually consider the council vote to be less likely to be informative, it's more of just a hedge, I'd consider it about a 90% chance for that lynch to go through under those stated conditions. I'm willing to try it though, just not at the exclusion of throwing everything we can at a dangerous slot because our approach of attack is decided by information they have provided for us.

Fuck that. What sets Nana apart that she has established nigh-invincibility, *and this is before powering up* we gotta address that first and foremost. Xlaw can be dealt with using abilities until proven otherwise.

 

[Ratchet]

>1343 pages
>26,856 posts
>losing track of one person's posts

I'm connected to the network and have posts downloaded into my brain as they arrive.

 

[Naomi]

Uhh still some hours left, like 5 or 6 I think

alright ty!

 

[Juliet]

No?

I sent in the action during daytime

Don't know where you're getting this info from lmao

What day did you send it? The way how I read your post it looked like you were saying you sent it either on day 1 or night 1.

 

[Bortolomeo]

It wouldn't? Maybe not immediately, but over time, as more players die off, that info can come in handy as a checklist on existing players, if there's a ballpark of how many scum were in a given pool.

I'd actually consider the council vote to be less likely to be informative, it's more of just a hedge, I'd consider it about a 90% chance for that lynch to go through under those stated conditions. I'm willing to try it though, just not at the exclusion of throwing everything we can at a dangerous slot because our approach of attack is decided by information they have provided for us.

Fuck that. What sets Nana apart that she has established nigh-invincibility, *and this is before powering up* we gotta address that first and foremost. Xlaw can be dealt with using abilities until proven otherwise.

in conclusion what do you suggest the best course of action is?

 

[Ultra]

It doesn't really rely on anything. If she's lying, she will either be lynched, or she will survive it. In any case, she's going to be resolved sooner or later. Using the Council provides the boon that, if she does end up being Town, we get significant information on the makeup of the council - this is better than information from a 10-15 vote wagon which would almost certainly have three scum in it anyway.

Nana is being lynched because people found her play scummy and her claim scummy. Whether you agree or disagree. The passive is a side show to this. Xlaw is being lynched because also scummy, but is also compromised mechanically. That's why you lynch him first, and then Nana. It's not like if one flips town, the other must be scum, or vice versa.

Is Nana not compromised mechanically?

 

[Lindltaylor]

Do perma crushes bypass rc immunities btw?

Never fear!

I don't think they should. A role crush immunity would work against a temporary and permanent one I think.

Thing is if Queen Nana is Town, she won't survive another kill. And there's a way to test that without wasting her role...


Never fear!

If she wasn't going to survive another kill I think she would have come clean about it in her claim.

 

[Ultra]

in conclusion what do you suggest the best course of action is?

I already said it last page. Fire at will, lynch and lynch again, don't try and get cutesy.

 

[Ratchet]

It wouldn't? Maybe not immediately, but over time, as more players die off, that info can come in handy as a checklist on existing players, if there's a ballpark of how many scum were in a given pool.

I'd actually consider the council vote to be less likely to be informative, it's more of just a hedge, I'd consider it about a 90% chance for that lynch to go through under those stated conditions. I'm willing to try it though, just not at the exclusion of throwing everything we can at a dangerous slot because our approach of attack is decided by information they have provided for us.

Fuck that. What sets Nana apart that she has established nigh-invincibility, *and this is before powering up* we gotta address that first and foremost. Xlaw can be dealt with using abilities until proven otherwise.

Hogwash. If the lynch fails on the Council and Nana is truthful about her lynch conditions, then the Council has at least 3 scum in a group of about 7 or 8, which really isn't all that improbable frankly. If the lynch goes through, then at least we know the Town are in control of the Council lynch. If she's lying, then it doesn't really matter either way.

 

[Fujishiro]

I feel you bro.

 

[Ratchet]

Is Nana not compromised mechanically?

Not unless surviving a kill means you're compromised, no.

 

[Fujishiro]

Hogwash. If the lynch fails on the Council and Nana is truthful about her lynch conditions, then the Council has at least 3 scum in a group of about 7 or 8, which really isn't all that improbable frankly. If the lynch goes through, then at least we know the Town are in control of the Council lynch. If she's lying, then it doesn't really matter either way.

Ratchy has a point.

 

[Ultra]

Hogwash. If the lynch fails on the Council and Nana is truthful about her lynch conditions, then the Council has at least 3 scum in a group of about 7 or 8, which really isn't all that improbable frankly. If the lynch goes through, then at least we know the Town are in control of the Council lynch. If she's lying, then it doesn't really matter either way.

So information is the basis of this play, thank you. Also, go ahead and assign a number.

 

[MangoSenpai]

What day did you send it? The way how I read your post it looked like you were saying you sent it either on day 1 or night 1.

The same day I said I was planning on giving it to AL.

I said I was planning on giving it to AL but he died that day, so I gave it to light instead

So that would be D2

 

[Juliet]

I will stress that if you think Nana is Scum and Xlaw is Town, then you should obviously be voting Nana. The Council thing is really a compromise between those who think Xlaw is Scum and Nana Town, or think they're both Scum.

These were my thoughts from yesterday. If I turn out to be wrong on Xlaw then it would mean I missed out on the reward nova gives out.

 

[Fujishiro]

I really miss Threadmarks

Same, makes things way easier. Dunno why they arent a thing yet.

 

[Ultra]

Ratchy has a point.

...Again, I'm not proposing not lynching her on council