Questions & Mysteries Sengoku's data puts him on a par with Garp but does Oda try not to make him look more impressive than Garp?

#1
Is Oda trying not to make him look more impressive than Garp for obvious reasons?

This is the Sengoku information:

Roger declares that the next time he is chased by the marines, they will bring him Sengoku or Garp. Textually the strongest possible character in history is putting Sengoku and Garp on the same level.

According to the vivre card databook Sengoku is one of the legends of the navy for facing Roger and Whitebeard in the old era. According to the same databook it has conquerors haki.
That is to say that among Akainu, kizaru, aokiji, fujitora and Garp, Sengoku is the only one that Oda has confirmed conquerors haki.

In Chapter 0 Sengoku is sent to the imminent clash between Roger and Shiki and according to another databook Shiki was in the same league as Roger and Whitebeard.

It was the fleet admiral for decades and I do not think that becoming an fleet admiral means that you are not very strong and you are only raised to that rank for other reasons considering that admirals are the greatest power of the world government and that is why pirates fear meddle with the celestial dragons for fear of retaliation from the navy admirals.

It has a mythological zoan fruit, it has all the qualities of the zoan that provide superior physical qualities among those, the hybrid form plus of being more rare than the logia, it only remains in the imagination as it would be Sengoku in buddha form with the whole body covered in armament haki either in its hybrid form or its awakening. In addition, the powers of the devil fruits do not age and it would be a plus to say that it would be stronger than Garp.

However, the little seen in Marineford was very disappointing and that's why I get confused with all that there is about Sengoku.
 
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#2
If you think Marineford Sengoku was disappointing, just wait until you see Marineford Garp jobbing to Gear 2 and then popping up for one panel just to make it seem like Sengoku wasn’t solo’ing Blackbeard and his crew by himself lol.

Garp is actually the real mooch, never accomplishing a single thing for himself and bumming off of Sengoku for hype lol. Every aspect of his character and writing are shit tier, and Sengoku is the real leader of the Marines, not this one dimensional fart named Garp lol.

Sengoku >>>> Garp.
 
#4
I hope he and Garp get their time vs someone in the future. Both are severely underutilized and Oda definitely had to stretch the limits of imagination to make us believe Sengoku couldn't stop Luffy right there when he rescued Ace. I do have a feeling that it will be retconned to say that not only Garp, but Sengoku allowed Luffy to save Ace.
 
#9
If you think Marineford Sengoku was disappointing, just wait until you see Marineford Garp jobbing to Gear 2 and then popping up for one panel just to make it seem like Sengoku wasn’t solo’ing Blackbeard and his crew by himself lol.

Garp is actually the real mooch, never accomplishing a single thing for himself and bumming off of Sengoku for hype lol. Every aspect of his character and writing are shit tier, and Sengoku is the real leader of the Marines, not this one dimensional fart named Garp lol.

Sengoku >>>> Garp.
:seriously:
 

BangOO🍅

Pepebusi Spammer
#11
Say anything what you want, but Sengoku has to be in the same level as garp.
Oda still hiding his true power + Kong's power for a reason.
 
F

Formerly Seth

#12
If you think Marineford Sengoku was disappointing, just wait until you see Marineford Garp jobbing to Gear 2 and then popping up for one panel just to make it seem like Sengoku wasn’t solo’ing Blackbeard and his crew by himself lol.

Garp is actually the real mooch, never accomplishing a single thing for himself and bumming off of Sengoku for hype lol. Every aspect of his character and writing are shit tier, and Sengoku is the real leader of the Marines, not this one dimensional fart named Garp lol.

Sengoku >>>> Garp.
I can actually imagine Garp and Sengoku from the past.

Both OP as fuck.

Sengoku: Garp we need to prep..... Garp?????? Oh for fucking sake he went solo again I'm going after him!

Tsuru: Idiots...
 
#13
Garp is objectively a fraud. Sry to say this, but it's the truth. People ignore the fact that he acquired his legendary title through a false report because they stan him so much.

The World literally thinks that Garp solo'ed Rocks, WB, Big mom, Kaidou etc with his Marine forces. Let's tell em that the PK was actually his assist and see how the public perception of him changes.

Garp ~ Sengoku

They were never portrayed to be having a gap in strength between them, ever.

Sengoku is the most competent Marine ever.
 

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
#14
I don't think he deserves to be put on par with Garp

He was FA but that doesn't equate stronger than an average admiral

Garp himself was VA even

No, Garp simply has the better feats and portrayal between the two :)
 
#15
Imo Sengoku is similar in powerlevel to Garp. Garp one punched Phoenix Marco to bleed and blown away while Kizaru couldn't manage it. But Sengoku's beam injured BB and his crewed, moreover his fruit is deity-themed so he's real freaking strong.
 
#16
Imo Sengoku is similar in powerlevel to Garp. Garp one punched Phoenix Marco to bleed and blown away while Kizaru couldn't manage it. But Sengoku's beam injured BB and his crewed, moreover his fruit is deity-themed so he's real freaking strong.
Of course Sengoku is really strong. Should never be a debate, same with Garp. But people with an agenda trying to downplay for some agenda or another. Quiet pathetic.
 
#17
Imo Sengoku is similar in powerlevel to Garp. Garp one punched Phoenix Marco to bleed and blown away while Kizaru couldn't manage it. But Sengoku's beam injured BB and his crewed, moreover his fruit is deity-themed so he's real freaking strong.
Marco wasn't bleeding, it's the same damage that Fujitora took from G4-Less Luffy.



 
#18
I agree that Sengoku is underrated. He was acknowledged by people like Roger and WB which alone puts him on their league. But between him and Garp, I feel that Garp coud be a bit stronger considering the hype and potrayal
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
#19
We saw Sengoku turn into a giant golden Buddha and clown the newly reinforced Blackbeard Pirates, and that’s before we even mention the fact that Roger explicitly listed him alongside Garp as the only two Marines worth his time. The goat’s caretaker has done all right so far.
 
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