Character Discussion Shanks already wifi diffed Kaido 2 years ago.

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#81
Mickey mouse fights, of course Oda won’t show who can actually have the upper hand. He can’t even show Kaido looking superior to BM in their offscreen fight. Go reread the implications I brought up, Roger still has the edge over WB however small is the only issue that is up to interpretation.

And yes, it’s a mickey mouse fight because Roger pirates were never serious. Think about it, if they were truly fighting to the death then WBP shouldn’t exist already. Roger has Rayleigh and Gaban. Even if Roger was weaker than WB, the sheer difference in strenght between the crew members would be too much.
WB literally says we tried to kill each other so no they werent Mickey Mouse fights. Regardless of the strenght of their crews, Odas intent was to show that WB and Roger fought seriously multiple times.
 
#82
Do you know why that one IS the exception?
Because he is the reason Kaido's title and 1vs1 are a rumor in the present.
He is the one who invalidated Kaido's title. Dont hand out Mihawk's feats to Shanks...
Mihawk couldn't even invalidate Whitebeard's WSM title, which according to you falls short of the WSC title. And out of the living people, he pictured Shanks as the one capable of fighting him. Inb4 you are saying Kaido specifically left out the people that would be able to even defeat him, which would be weird in a statement that asked how high Luffy's ceiling would be.

It would also invalidate not only King's statement (unless you say the mid gen wasn't included due to age, but that would be true for both Mihawk and Shanks), but also Kaido's who said there is no one in the world capable of defeating him and the one destined to defeat him would be Joyboy himself.
 
#84
WB literally says we tried to kill each other so no they werent Mickey Mouse fights. Regardless of the strenght of their crews, Odas intent was to show that WB and Roger fought seriously multiple times.
If they seriously intended to kill each other, then why weren’t the WBPs obliterated? Do you believe Teen Marco and Jozu = Prime Ray and Gaban?
 
#85
WB literally says we tried to kill each other so no they werent Mickey Mouse fights. Regardless of the strenght of their crews, Odas intent was to show that WB and Roger fought seriously multiple times.
Cop out answer. You think Rayleigh just stood still and watch Roger and WB fight? The competition was a prepubescent Marco and angsty teen Jozu. This just reaffirms that these were Mickey Mouse fights lol.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#86
Cop out answer. You think Rayleigh just stood still and watch Roger and WB fight? The competition was a prepubescent Marco and angsty teen Jozu. This just reaffirms that these were Mickey Mouse fights lol.
Not really, autho intent> All.

If WB says they tried to kill each other then they did, his words> Your thoughts.
If they seriously intended to kill each other, then why weren’t the WBPs obliterated? Do you believe Teen Marco and Jozu = Prime Ray and Gaban?
Like I said its the authors intent that matters, Rayleigh and Gaban and the whole WBP and RP werent introduced yet. So I mean unless you wanna say WB is a liar which btw Shanks didnt disprove what he said then they indeed fought seriously multiple times.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#87
Mihawk couldn't even invalidate Whitebeard's WSM title, which according to you falls short of the WSC title. And out of the living people, he pictured Shanks as the one capable of fighting him. Inb4 you are saying Kaido specifically left out the people that would be able to even defeat him, which would be weird in a statement that asked how high Luffy's ceiling would be.

It would also invalidate not only King's statement (unless you say the mid gen wasn't included due to age, but that would be true for both Mihawk and Shanks), but also Kaido's who said there is no one in the world capable of defeating him and the one destined to defeat him would be Joyboy himself.
He didn't have to invalidate WSM, Whitebeard's age and illness did that themselves.
Kaido didn't leave out anyone, to his knowledge, a stronger being than him doesn't exist.
That's why a guy stronger than Shanks isn't among his top 5.

Of course mid gen wasn't included, lol.
It wouldn't be true for Shanks as well because Kaido knows Shanks and fought him.
Which isn't the case with Mihawk.
 
#88
But it hasnt been proven wrong lol, you repeating it wont make it reality.


Yeah I knew you would bring this up, see he jumped there to meet Kidd and co because Apoo informed him of where they were.

Next.

No there is none. They are canonically equal.

Kaido mustve really gotten in your nerves for you to be acting this way about a fictional character lol.
Kaido said there is no one in this world capable defeating me in front of G5 Luffy , meaning despite the current circumstances he believed so.He lost against same G5 Luffy therefore his statement got proven wrong . No idea why you are saying it has not been proven wrong probably agenda bias.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#90
Kaido said there is no one in this world capable defeating me in front of G5 Luffy , meaning despite the current circumstances he believed so.He lost against same G5 Luffy therefore his statement got proven wrong . No idea why you are saying it has not been proven wrong probably agenda bias.
He litteraly told King that Joyboy would defeat him, and Jobyoy defeated him.

When he said nobody can defeat him, he meant alive or people he knows of.

There is no contradiction and nothing was proven wrong.
 
#91
He litteraly told King that Joyboy would defeat him, and Jobyoy defeated him.

When he said nobody can defeat him, he meant alive or people he knows of.

There is no contradiction and nothing was proven wrong.
Luffy isn't Joyboy he is just using same devil fruit Joyboy did so still wrong. Its Nika fruit not Joyboy fruit.
 
#94
Shanks giving Kaido barrel of wine and telling him not to go to Marineford because Ace is not Joyboy with proof sounds way more plausible.

Moreso when he was expecting Joyboy to show up in Wano and the fact that WB also wanted to make Ace a Pirate King for a reason (he knew all about Joyboy and D clan).
 
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#95
>Sets out of Wano to backstab Whitebeard, someone he wanted to get rid of for decades
>Gets wifi diffed and sent back home by the upstart Yonko Shanks
>Afraid of Meme entering Wano
>Used hostages to defeat Oden & rookie Luffy
Summary of the miserable life of pirate Kaido
 
#97
The more I think about it the more I believe that Kaido in fact retreated once shanks unleashed his Haki which shocked Kaidou and pushed him to not wanting a full scale war.

He was wanting to go and kill whitebeard you couldn’t just talk him out of this, Shanks made his aura known to Kaido and used it to prevent him from going over to marineford.

In the panel the marine soldiers were surprised at how quickly shanks neutralized the threat of another Yonko.
 
#98
Ok lets see what we actually know for a fact :

- Shanks and Kaidou had encounter



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- Just day after Shanks arrived quickly without any damage / wound being mentioned or visible






- Shanks is on Kaido list of 5 people capable of fighting him.

This list consists of people with greater portrayal and bounties than Kaido like Roger and Whitebeard and Oden guy who already proved his capability to wound and defeat Kaido were it not for old hag assistance.

This proves Kaido did witness Shanks power , otherwise he would never include him into his list.

Now stacking evidence is that we have Egghead and Wano feats of Haki negating devil fruits power regardless is it logia or zoan type . One of them was Shanks himself with Grenbull but another one was Joyboy haki against Gorosei. Yet said haki used against Gorosei got compared to Shanks own haki power.


Conclusion :

As we saw in first image I provided its said Shanks was involved in minor clashes , that it was minor clash against Kaido is also supported by fact Shanks arrived so quickly without any wounds at Marineford.

People may say nothing happened at all , but if that was case Kaido would not have witness Shanks power so he would not list him as someone capable of fighting him, If he didnt saw Shanks power Kaido would never place Shanks in same basket as Whitbeard and Roger.

Given all this facts and feats we had in Egghead its pretty clear Shanks used his Haki to wifi diff Kaido and made him return home without trying to take Whitebeard head.

Shanks > Crydo pretty much everything but confirmed.
What was Odens bounty
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