Questions & Mysteries Shanks' missing arm will be his downfall

[zenox]

this thread is just a theory -

so we know shanks sacrificed his arm for the new gen

it was to show luffy what it means to be a pirate

but ofc a sacrifice means something
shanks and blackbeard are destined to clash in the future

with shanks monitoring every step of black beard and being very cautious of him

sooner or later , the inevitable clash will come

and if their will be a winner
it will def not be shanks since bb is supposed to be put down by luffy
who also wants to surpass shanks

luffy's best way of surpassing shanks and his crew will be by beating the winner of that clash

now, it has been portrayed that shanks has lost strength after he lost his arm
thus mihawk stopped dueling with him since shanks killed off his potential of growing any stronger and surpassing mihawk

blackbeard was alrdy able to scar 2-armed shanks

imo he was able to scar shanks with the same cause on why he has 2 devil fruits
blackbeard is hiding something within him
something which brings out a secret strength capable of scarring even shanks


but this time shanks will be even weaker than that
his cause of downfall in the fight will be his missing arm

and then the very reason why he gave up that arm is gonna beat blackbeard

closing all of their rivalry and shanks's goal perfectly

 

[CensoredbyWG]

This isn't bleach, losing an arm doesnt make a swordsman weaker.

 

[zenox]

This isn't bleach, losing an arm doesnt make a swordsman weaker.

Literally any swordsman
Fictional or real will lose their strength after losing an arm
This isn’t supposed to be rocket science

 

[style]

There is a panel in the Jaya arc where Luffy suddenly thinks about Ace and Shanks after the meeting with Teach

Both Ace and Shanks are Blackbeard's victims, directly or indirectly

 

[nik87]

Number of arms is definitely not the issue, lmao.
It is all about haki and Kaido's "dying words" have made that clear.
Zoro has 2 arms, even 6 arms when he wants to and you think that changes anything in regards to beating Mihawk?

He doesnt lack more arms in order to beat Mihawk, he lacks haki.
And when it comes to Shanks vs Blackbeard, he doesnt lack haki, he is superior hakiman than BB.
It is simply that Blackbeard plays dirty, he will gang up on Shanks with his whole crew if that's what it takes to win.

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

I don’t think Oda is going in the obvious direction where BB will beat Shanks before facing Luffy. Instead Luffy, Shanks, and BB will all fight each other in a battle royal. Something similar to Ohm vs Zoro vs Ganfall vs Wyper.

Just like in that fight I don’t expect anyone to win, but IMU to show up and defeat them all, like Enel in that fight.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Literally any swordsman
Fictional or real will lose their strength after losing an arm
This isn’t supposed to be rocket science

Cope, it was already stated in universo that shanks didnt lose a single ounce of strength after sacrificing his arm to motivate luffy.

You are just afraid to get even more embarassed after it gets revealed that shanks is the strongest pirate while being a one armed swordsman hahahahahaah.

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I don’t think Oda is going in the obvious direction where BB will beat Shanks before facing Luffy. Instead Luffy, Shanks, and BB will all fight each other in a battle royal. Something similar to Ohm vs Zoro vs Ganfall vs Wyper.

Just like in that fight I don’t expect anyone to win, but IMU to show up and defeat them all, like Enel in that fight.

I was expecting a davy back fight for when SHs fight shanks tbh.

 

[NAMELESS]

This isn't bleach, losing an arm doesnt make a swordsman weaker.

Where was this stated?We saw Roger using both hands to grip his sword.Shanks fights just like him.Mihawk perceives one-armed Shanks as a downgrade too.Shanks got nerfed.

 

[zenox]

cope, it was already stated in universo that shanks didnt lose a single ounce of strength after sacrificing his arm to motivate luffy.

which version of onepiece are u reading ?
3 piece ?

You are just afraid to get even more embarassed after it gets revealed that shanks is the strongest pirate while being a one armed swordsman hahahahahaah

ok retard

Number of arms is definitely not the issue, lmao.
It is all about haki and Kaido's "dying words" have made that clear.
Zoro has 2 arms, even 6 arms when he wants to and you think that changes anything in regards to beating Mihawk?

He doesnt lack more arms in order to beat Mihawk, he lacks haki.
And when it comes to Shanks vs Blackbeard, he doesnt lack haki, he is superior hakiman than BB.
It is simply that Blackbeard plays dirty, he will gang up on Shanks with his whole crew if that's what it takes to win.

in a battle , both haki and limbs are needed to fight
ofc even if shanks has both of his arms , he will still lose against blackblade mihawk cause of his inferior haki

but that doesnt mean arms are irrelevant
ur example itself proves that

Zoro has 2 arms, even 6 arms when he wants to

the crazy hakiman zoro's ultimate move isnt some stuff like powering up his haki and going full berserk
its simply adding more limbs to his arsenal and that makes him way stronger than before
that legit shows that limbs matter especially when u lose one

 

[nik87]

the crazy hakiman zoro's ultimate move isnt some stuff like powering up his haki and going full berserk
its simply adding more limbs to his arsenal and that makes him way stronger than before
that legit shows that limbs matter especially when u lose one

Zori's ultimate move isnt adding more limbs... It is tripling everything.
And his ultimate move absorbs everything he is capable of.
His ultimate move doesnt need more limbs to beat Mihawk, it needs stronger haki/swords.

Not like Ittoryu swordsmen need the other limb to begin with, they arent doing anything with a spare hand anyway.
Only Mihawk's dual-wielding Kriegs Messer requires two hands, sometimes.
We never saw hakimen swing a sword with one arm and do something else with the other hand so Shanks aint handicapped in that way.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Shanks wasn't even supposed to lose an arm, it was an advice from an editor, so it may be inconsequential to the big picture.

 

[zenox]

Shanks wasn't even supposed to lose an arm, it was an advice from an editor, so it may be inconsequential to the big picture.

the same way supernovas were just a recommendation from the editor , but now look where we are

both the arm and novas got heavy story around them

Zori's ultimate move isnt adding more limbs... It is tripling everything.
And his ultimate move absorbs everything he is capable of.

all he does is triples his heads / limbs and swords
it doesnt unlock some new haki like i said
all i wanted to say with that was limbs matter since zoro increases them in his ultimate

his ultimate move doesnt need more limbs to beat Mihawk, it needs stronger haki/swords.

he needs all of them , if u suddenly slice off zoro's hands b4 his duel with mihawk
he will struggle

Not like Ittoryu swordsmen need the other limb to begin with, they arent doing anything with a spare hand anyway.

they are using that 1 hand to powerup their sword
both of these hands are shown on 1 sword styles for a reason

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

the same way supernovas were just a recommendation from the editor , but now look where we are

Not saying you're wrong, but that's a possibility.

 

[Nadel]

Shanks with one arm has no way to stop Mihawk's attack......Yoru would just destroy it.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Nah man you just gotta wait for shanks to use his Haki Kamehameha or Haki Purple

That missing arm don’t matter clearly for a hakiman

 

[nik87]

all he does is triples his heads / limbs and swords
it doesnt unlock some new haki like i said
all i wanted to say with that was limbs matter since zoro increases them in his ultimate

Demon God is Zoro's imagination of the peak of strength, it is not as simple as increasing number of heads and arms/swords.
That's Zoro's definition of the strongest being.

You can see what level one needs to be to handle Enma, we can assume that handling Supreme grades could be similarly as challenging.
We dont know about single guy with 2 Supreme Grades. Santoryu Zoro will be handling 3 Supreme Grades.
In Demon God form, he will handle 9 supreme grades. Demon God absorbs everything Zoro has and multiplies it, weapons and haki.

he needs all of them , if u suddenly slice off zoro's hands b4 his duel with mihawk
he will struggle

That's because Zoro is a Santoryu swordsman to begin with so he would be handicapped.
However, Shanks never was a Nittoryu swordsman to be handicapped.

they are using that 1 hand to powerup their sword
both of these hands are shown on 1 sword styles for a reason

Yes but Oda will not nerf Shanks due to that, he will simply do with one hand what others do with 2.
Proof of it is Shanks having no issues clashing with Whitebeard's two-handed naginata.
Especially when you factor in the no-touching haki, number of arms really doesnt affect Shanks.
He wouldnt be stronger if he had 2 arms. No technique of his requires another arm.

 

[Paperchampion23]

the same way supernovas were just a recommendation from the editor , but now look where we are

both the arm and novas got heavy story around them

Sure, they get concentrated plotlines in specific arcs, but the Supernova's are largely inconsequential to the overal story of the series.

Drake, Apoo, Hawkins and Bege are all fodder to the arcs they were part of, arguably Bege had the best role.

Kid, Killer and Law all were destroyed by Shanks and Blackbeard respectively, thereby removing them from the PK race without Luffy even being involved.

Bonney is essentially viewing lens into Kuma's life, and it wouldnt surprise me that she existed as a concept before the Supernova (him saving his daughter), but he decided to then make her a pirate. But yes, less about her and more about him.

Arguably out of all of this, Law actually felt like a consequential character since he is Luffy's biggest ally throughout multiple arcs. And who knows about Urouge and what his purpose is, but my guess is he will act as an expository character on Moon Lore.


Compare these characters to Kuma and how influential he is to the crew's history and survival, Blackbeard and what he did to cause the Paramount War, Akainu and his killing of Ace/Scarring Luffy, and Shanks being the reason Luffy even is a pirate. There really is no comparison.


Tldr: Really none of the Supernova's are important to the plot, you can remove all of them, save for maybe Law, and still have the arcs flow in a way where the plot makes sense (yes defeating Kaido without Kid/Law would have been a hard sell, but then you could just as easily remove Big Mom from the arc too).

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Didn't one of the databooks mention that Shanks' missing arm didn't affect his strength at all? Or was it just fake info?

Anyway, if the number of arms was so important, Mihawk would never be the strongest swordsman with just his mere two arms. Zoro proved the point very early in chapter #85 ("3 swords style vs. 6 swords style", see in the spoiler below).

Spoiler

 

[OGshine]

if only he could manifest extra arms like zoro