General & Others "Shanks vs Mihawk" and "Itachi vs Minato" social experiment

[comrade]

Sage Mode won't be much of a factor as per Minato's own words.

So I'd only judge base Minato. That being said, Amaterasu and Susanoo won't be much of a factor against Minato given his speed and capabilities of his space time Ninjutsu (being able to relocate large objects like Susanoo quickly). So it will come down to Itachi's feints and Genjutsu. Minato is a sensor, but we know that this alone won't make a battle with a Genjutsu expert like Itachi easy, who could force you into eye contact one way or another.

Also, it depends on whether the relocation of Susanoo counts as a W, because he would not have beaten Itachi effectively, though Susanoo on the other hand won't really be able to land a hit either. Sounds like a stalemate.

I think it's an either way, both have a case

 

[zenox]

but I can see Shanks defeating more opponents than Mihawk.

an opinion without any basis but pure wank

 

[Cruxroux]

Itachi ran away from Jiraya alongside Kisame.

Minato was likely stronger than Jiraya lol.

 

[kekaro]

Mohawk should be 1 inch stronger unless no one will take zori seriously
Itachi is a greater genius and competent fighter so

We saw Minato fighting he wasn't impressive

Then don’t comment if you haven’t read or watched Naruto retard

Ey lmao, classic schizo must be included again

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

The only reason I don't consider this a ban worthy offense is the fact that you're a CSM truther like me

It do be faxxx tho.


Mello clears him in every way imaginable.


Near is just a bland boring toned down version of L without any of L's charisma.


Near is in large part why part 2 of Death Note fell off compared to the greatness that was part 1.

Huge W my brother. I used to hate Mello eventually but oh boy he grew so much on me. Probably my second fave in the series after Light lol

Mello is awesome. Deffo in my top 5 faves. Light and L are the undisputed top 2, but Mello is definitely up there.

Itachi ran away from Jiraya alongside Kisame.

Itachi was a double agent...

Itachi was there to just make a ruckus to remind Danzo that he is still alive so he doesn't mess with Sasuke.
And it's abundantly clear that Itachi wasn't going to kidnap Naruto there and used Jiraiya as an excuse, because he was still on Konoha's side.


A younger version of Itachi literally negged a stronger sannin than Jiraiya.

 

[kekaro]

Itachi was a double agent...

Itachi was there to just make a ruckus to remind Danzo that he is still alive so he doesn't mess with Sasuke.
And it's abundantly clear that Itachi wasn't going to kidnap Naruto there and used Jiraiya as an excuse, because he was still on Konoha's side.


A younger version of Itachi literally negged a stronger sannin than Jiraiya.

Oh no, someone who reads

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Oh no, someone who reads

The bane of Worstgen ngl.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Itachi ran away from Jiraya alongside Kisame.

Minato was likely stronger than Jiraya lol.

Itachi had no incentive to fight jiraiya. He can neg jiraiya if they fight. Jiraiya's equal in orochimaru was dominated by base itachi.

 

[Cruxroux]

Itachi had no incentive to fight jiraiya. He can neg jiraiya if they fight. Jiraiya's equal in orochimaru was dominated by base itachi.

Orochimaru was overconfident in his abilities lol.
He wasn't over outclassed in terms of skills.

Itachi was a double agent...

Itachi was there to just make a ruckus to remind Danzo that he is still alive so he doesn't mess with Sasuke.
And it's abundantly clear that Itachi wasn't going to kidnap Naruto there and used Jiraiya as an excuse, because he was still on Konoha's side.


A younger version of Itachi literally negged a stronger sannin than Jiraiya.

Yea the reason was there.

But why bother going to a length to neg Kakashi but leaving Jiraya scratchless lol.

Kirana nearly beat 3 clones of Pain alone.

Not only that, Jiraya was capable breaking out from genjutsu from rinnegan, Far superior than Sharingan, not sure about Mangekyou abilities.

The legendary sanins are not equal strong either lol, you can't tell me on straight face Tsunade is even remotely close Jiraya or Orochimaru, then why bother equating Jiraya to orochimaru.

And orochimaru was really considered Real genjutsu resistant type a shi compared to jiraya.

Even if I were to assume, Itachi only did that warn Danzo.

Why would Kisame blindly trust Itachi words on Jiraya being that strong lol. This is same guy who's wasn't scared to go fight Eight tales and raikage simultaneously. Though lost but he had his own plans.

Jiraya has counter to at the very least Sharingan level Genjutsu, Mangekyou is skeptical, koto~whatever which shisui gave is kinda tough.

But at the same time Jiraya has a lot in his prowess as well. Orochimaru simply had no counter to Itachi Genjutsu.

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Oh no, someone who reads

@Blazing Lion
Told ya, bitch cries everywhere.

 

[kekaro]

>Orochimaru gets his ass so hard whooped he dreams of Itachi in his nightmares years later
>"He wasnt outmatched he was just confident"
>"bitch"
Shoutout to flaunting that sig btw. prouding your sakazuki akainu skills, you should also include "you retard" there

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Near is just a bland boring toned down version of L without any of L's charisma.

Wasn't that part of the point with them or am I tripping

 

[MonsterKaido]

Orochimaru was overconfident in his abilities lol.
He wasn't over outclassed in terms of skills.

Bruh he got dominated by base sharingan itachi. Jiraiya is helpless against amaterasu or tsukiyomi.

 

[MonsterKaido]

>Orochimaru gets his ass so hard whooped he dreams of Itachi in his nightmares years later
>"He wasnt outmatched he was just confident"
>"bitch"
Shoutout to flaunting that sig btw. prouding your sakazuki akainu skills, you should also include "you retard" there

Jiraiya is one of my favs but he is massively overrated. I have seen some say jiraiya with knowledge about pain's ability could have beaten him yet 3 paths which didn't include deva were dominating him bad.

 

[kekaro]

Jiraiya is one of my favs but he is massively overrated. I have seen some say jiraiya with knowledge about pain's ability could have beaten him yet 3 paths which didn't include deva were dominating him bad.

Its double funny cause its also miss characterization. If anything i would argue the story implies narrtivly Jiraiya was the strongest (just like the "Naruto" of the trio usually tends to be) but he was the overconfident/death seeker one, thats what results in his dead in the first place even Tsunade calling him out for it before it happens

Orochimaru meanwhile has back up plans for his back plans for immortality

Didnt we also get the scene with Hanzo around the pain fight and that Nagato murked Hanzo so its even clearly narratively etablishes before the fight the leader of Akatsuki > Sannin

This also ignores the fact that someone like Orochimaru who was equal to jiraiya somehow worked under a guy he was supposed to be stronger

 

[[No Name]]

Minato was more of a genius than Itachi at the academy.
It is implied he has better overall intelligence and BIQ, also people misunderstand how hiraishin and body flicker works (Minato is better than Tobirama at both, Alive Minato doesn't even extreme diff Tobirama, lower difficulty).
Minato is also a seal kind of typer, his seals are Hashirama level application.

Itachi is underrated by his haters, lmao, he stomps strongest sannin orochimaru twice, and one in an horrible state. He also scared Obito enough from making him decide to accept an ultimatum for him.

And yes, Obito is the guy stronger than Pain confirmed by Minato.

Pretty much both Minato and Itachi scale above Obito, who scales above Pain.
But Minato has slightly edge thanks to the fact Itachi's stamina doesn't shine, so match up and statement favor Minato as more of a genius at the academy, Itachi lives the hype as the best student after the yellow flash.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Minato was more of a genius than Itachi at the academy.
It is implied he has better overall intelligence and BIQ, also people misunderstand how hiraishin and body flicker works (Minato is better than Tobirama at both, Alive Minato doesn't even extreme diff Tobirama, lower difficulty).
Minato is also a seal kind of typer, his seals are Hashirama level application.

Itachi is underrated by his haters, lmao, he stomps strongest sannin orochimaru twice, and one in an horrible state. He also scared Obito enough from making him decide to accept an ultimatum for him.

And yes, Obito is the guy stronger than Pain confirmed by Minato.

Pretty much both Minato and Itachi scale above Obito, who scales above Pain.
But Minato has slightly edge thanks to the fact Itachi's stamina doesn't shine, so match up and statement favor Minato as more of a genius at the academy, Itachi lives the hype as the best student after the yellow flash.

Pain is strongest imo.

 

[[No Name]]

Pain is strongest imo.

No, he is like kaido. Random hype statement, characters literally state the opposite and the scaling as well.

 

[MonsterKaido]

No, he is like kaido. Random hype statement, characters literally state the opposite and the scaling as well.

Pain beats itachi , minato and orange mask obito.

 

[park_min young]

Pain was stronger than Itachi and Minato lmfao, that’s pretty clear to me. Obito is tricky but Pain had stronger everything tbh, Rinnegan is the ultimate eye ability. Kamui is just really broken but it’s not full-proof, especially not the one-eyed version. There’s a small window where Tobi has to deactivate his intangibility after 5 minutes iirc. If Nagato catches on then he can hit Obito after exploiting that weakness. Obito also had to touch his opponent for Kamui to be used offensively iirc.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Pain was stronger than Itachi and Minato lmfao, that’s pretty clear to me. Obito is tricky but Pain had stronger everything tbh, Rinnegan is the ultimate eye ability. Kamui is just really broken but it’s not full-proof, especially not the one-eyed version. There’s a small window where Tobi has to deactivate his intangibility after 5 minutes iirc. If Nagato catches on then he can hit Obito after exploiting that weakness. Obito also had to touch his opponent for Kamui to be used offensively iirc.

Even if itachi or minato wins , it will be an extreme diff and in general pain is far stronger let it be DC or number of jutsus.