Current Events Shankstard (I guess) massive L

[Herrera95]

So it's being a while that Shankstards, or at least I believe it is them but could be any other tard, have being claim Shanks as Tenryuubito and the reason why Gorosei accepted a meeting with him. Like he having a pass to do whatever he wants because of it.

First of all that claim should have being already debunked when Doflamingo backstory came up. Doflaming a proved Tenryuubito didn't had any special treatments of WG. There is the narrative of he using CP-0 for his personal purpose but at the end he was treated like any pirate once defeated and all his crimes revealed at Dressrosa. He was arrested and took to Impel Down. So it doesn't matter if you are Tenryuubito or if you know Tenryuubitos secret etc. He was just a pirate at the end.

And same thing with Shanks. In fact this last chapter 1086 we just had another proof of it.

Even a Tenryuubito that doesn't make a living as pirate was killed by the simple fact of backing up Fishmen. Imagine what they would do with Shanks if they could (that means if he wasn't a freakingly strong Yonko) that stole the Nika DF they were so concerned about it.

Well that's it. Shanks didn't met Gorosei because he is a Tenryuubito. He can be a Tenryuubito. But Doflamingo isn't meeting with Gorosei and he is confirmed to be one. Shanks met with Gorosei because of his positon as Yonko.

 

[Paperchampion23]

You literally cant use this as an argument when his implied family is the one killing other CDs lmao. If it was a different family, then this post "may" make more sense, but clearly Figarlands are high ranking CD members if they can openly kill other CDs. Who knows if the other God Knights are Figarland's or other CD families. We dont know.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

 

[comrade]

Yes, I agree. It's just one big cope from haters.

You literally cant use this as an argument when his implied family is the one killing other CDs lmao

Nothing of that sort was implied. One member of the family who is a loyal servant to the world government and Imu executing those going against the doctrine of the World Government doesn't make the entirety of the Figarland family being having the status of executioners for the World Government; let alone one that has been abandoned since he was a toddler, sailed on Roger's ship, made his own pirate crew, became Yonko, aims for the One Piece, stole the Nika fruit the WG was deliberately hunting for centuries and feeding it to Luffy.

Either the WG is extremely retarded, or Shanks just incredibly mighty given how he can basically do whatever he wants and the highest authorities of the WG still suck him off.

Garling is still beneath the Gorosei, who in turn are beneath Imu who they worship as a god. Garling being the leader of the Holy Knights doesn't justify Shanks doing whatever he wants and fucking the WG over big time, yet still being viewed in high regards.

Doflamingo also was from the inner circle, just like the Figarlands and Neronas (Imu's very family), yet Doflamingo gets punished for a fraction of what Shanks did, lmao.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Yes, I agree. It's just one big cope from haters.

Nothing of that sort was implied. One member of the family who is a loyal servant to the world government and Imu executing those going against the doctrine of the World Government doesn't make the entirety of the Figarland family being having the status of executioners for the World Government; let alone one that has been abandoned since he was a toddler, sailed on Roger's ship, made his own pirate crew, became Yonko, aims for the One Piece, stole the Nika fruit the WG was deliberately hunting for centuries and feeding it to Luffy.

Either the WG is extremely retarded, or Shanks just incredibly mighty given how he can basically do whatever he wants and the highest authorities of the WG still suck him off.

Garling is still beneath the Gorosei, who in turn are beneath Imu who they worship as a god. Garling being the leader of the Holy Knights doesn't justify Shanks doing whatever he wants and fucking the WG over big time, yet still being viewed in high regards.

Doflamingo also was from the inner circle, just like the Figarlands and Neronas (Imu's very family), yet Doflamingo gets punished for a fraction of what Shanks did, lmao.

The fact that Figarlands can kill other CDs already alone implies their status is higher like the Gorosei lol. Not sure what the issue is. Donquixote for all we know can be low ranking on the totem poll.

Im absolutely not calling Shanks weak, but Sengoku stopped a war that he started with another Yonko. This really isnt about Yonko status, there is an obvious connection between him and his CD family.

 

[Reborn]

Meh


Garling is clearly above other CDs as he is introduced as giving punishments to other CDs who are akin to Gods for outside world.

His portrayal is next to Gorosei in line.

So, comparison doffy situation(normal CD) is like comparing apple and oranges.


Both Sengoku and Gorosei said " since it's you" so this clearly implies not yonkou status but status of Shanks as Figarland.

 

[Erkan12]

Shanks haters and ZKKtards took the L again, nothing new.

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https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...oilers-discussion.43359/page-290#post-4392803

Of course if they can kill a Celestial Dragon, they would murderstomp Shanks (if they could) who chose to be not only a pirate, become a great pirate.

 

[comrade]

The fact that Figarlands can kill other CDs

Not "the Figarlands", but a Figarland that is the supreme commander of the Holy knights and loyal servant of the World Government and Imu, sharing their doctrine without deviation.

What exactly does that have to do with a guy, Figarland or not, who is one of the most powerful and influential pirates, sailed with Roger, aims for the One Piece and attacks WG ships to steal something as essential to them as the Nika fruit, to feed it to Joyboy's reincarnation and inspire him to become Pirate King



Yes, the fact Shanks may be from the Figarland family and is an overall reasonable guy that is diplomatic is the reason why the likes of Sengoku and the Gorosei are willing to share that diplomacy. That is not the same as them just granting Shanks a free pass. They do so because he is immensely powerful both individually and politically. Otherwise he would get the Doflamingo treatment.

 

[Dragon777]

The fact that Figarlands can kill other CDs already alone implies their status is higher like the Gorosei lol. Not sure what the issue is. Donquixote for all we know can be low ranking on the totem poll.

Im absolutely not calling Shanks weak, but Sengoku stopped a war that he started with another Yonko. This really isnt about Yonko status, there is an obvious connection between him and his CD family.

Exactly.

Also, Doflamingo wasn't conidered a DC anymore (dunno about Shanks) and more than everything he was trying to blackmail the WG with the Imu's secret, which Shanks is not.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Not "the Figarlands", but a Figarland that is the supreme commander of the Holy knights and loyal servant of the World Government and Imu, sharing their doctrine without deviation.

What exactly does that have to do with a guy, Figarland or not, who is one of the most powerful and influential pirates, sailed with Roger, aims for the One Piece and attacks WG ships to steal something as essential to them as the Nika fruit, to feed it to Joyboy's reincarnation and inspire him to become Pirate King



Yes, the fact Shanks may be from the Figarland family and is an overall reasonable guy that is diplomatic is the reason why the likes of Sengoku and the Gorosei are willing to share that diplomacy. That is not the same as them just granting Shanks a free pass. They do so because he is immensely powerful both individually and politically. Otherwise he would get the Doflamingo treatment.

Because there is a difference between being related to someone who clearly is influential and can execute CDs and inviting them on that premise vs. thinking the Gorosei solely respected and responded to a Yonko who is also Roger's Protoge and allowing them to enter the heart of the WG lol.

Im really not getting how this is not registering with people. Do you really think they arent taking his bloodline into account here lol?

 

[mmd]

Even this kid understood, but Admiral fans didn't

 

[Toryu]

Not "the Figarlands", but a Figarland that is the supreme commander of the Holy knights and loyal servant of the World Government and Imu, sharing their doctrine without deviation.

What exactly does that have to do with a guy, Figarland or not, who is one of the most powerful and influential pirates, sailed with Roger, aims for the One Piece and attacks WG ships to steal something as essential to them as the Nika fruit, to feed it to Joyboy's reincarnation and inspire him to become Pirate King



Yes, the fact Shanks may be from the Figarland family and is an overall reasonable guy that is diplomatic is the reason why the likes of Sengoku and the Gorosei are willing to share that diplomacy. That is not the same as them just granting Shanks a free pass. They do so because he is immensely powerful both individually and politically. Otherwise he would get the Doflamingo treatment.

Why were the Gorosei careful over killing Uta or not, by simply fact that she could be a Figarland if they're not like one the highest family?

They weren't reluctant because she was Shanks daughter, but because she could be Figarland

 

[Dragon777]

Even this kid understood, but Admiral fans didn't

Why not, maybe the day we see any other Empeor entering the room of the Gorosei in Marijoa you could claim that you were right lol.

 

[comrade]

Why were the Gorosei careful over killing Uta or not, by simply fact that she could be a Figarland if they're not like one the highest family?

They weren't reluctant because she was Shanks daughter, but because she could be Figarland

Because there is a difference between being related to someone who clearly is influential and can execute CDs and inviting them on that premise vs. thinking the Gorosei solely respected and responded to a Yonko who is also Roger's Protoge and allowing them to enter the heart of the WG lol.

Im really not getting how this is not registering with people. Do you really think they arent taking his bloodline into account here lol?

Sorry, but that's all just a massive cope filled with assumptions.

We have confirmation that the Donquixote Family was named along Figarland and even Nerona, they effectively share the same rank, which gets revoked if they go against the WG's doctrine. Same was true for Lili, same would be true for a Figarland who will be rebellious. Mjosgard, who is a Donquixote, was literally executed for treating fishmen humanely.

And you are saying Shanks gets a free pass for the ridiculous shit he has done because he is of the Figarland family? It's bullshit.

I love how you create your own narrative and making it sound like this is super obvious and logical. Even the those among the Gorosei who wouldn't obey and lick Imu's ass would be executed, and you are talking about a great pirate who fucks over the WG by stealing the Nika fruit getting some free pass due to his bloodline.

 

[Dragon777]

and you are talking about a great pirate who fucks over the WG by stealing the Nika fruit getting some free pass due to his bloodline.

Tbh, I don't think we are: we are just saying that Shanks has a special treatment in comparison with other pirates, because he is what he is.

 

[Toryu]

Sorry, but that's all just a massive cope filled with assumptions.

We have confirmation that the Donquixote Family was named along Figarland and even Nerona, they effectively share the same rank, which gets revoked if they go against the WG's doctrine. Same was true for Lili, same would be true for a Figarland who will be rebellious. Mjosgard, who is a Donquixote, was literally executed for treating fishmen humanely.

And you are saying Shanks gets a free pass for the ridiculous shit he has done because he is of the Figarland family? It's bullshit.

I love how you create your own narrative and making it sound like this is super obvious and logical. Even the those among the Gorosei who wouldn't obey and lick Imu's ass would be executed, and you are talking about a great pirate who fucks over the WG by stealing the Nika fruit getting some free pass due to his bloodline.

Why the Gorosei were reluctant to kill Uta?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Shanks is the most privileged Yonko. Nuff said.

 

[mmd]

Why not, maybe the day we see any other Empeor entering the room of the Gorosei in Marijoa you could claim that you were right lol.

Do you think Wb would have allowed Kaido and Big Mom to enter his ship?
The obvious answer is that they are wild...Couldn't Roger come to Marineford to stop this war?
The Five Elders were worried when Shanks moved...Why should they be afraid of their ally?
Why did Shanks steal Nika from all the fruits?
They aren't stupid, they know Shanks is a traitor and if Shanks is their ally, how many people do you think know about this?

 

[Paperchampion23]

Sorry, but that's all just a massive cope filled with assumptions.

Are you sure its not the other way around lmao? Why would Gorosei invite a Yonko of all people to their most vulnerable spot if not actually accounting for his straight up canon bloodline?

We have confirmation that the Donquixote Family was named along Figarland and even Nerona,

Bro...are you reading inaccurate spoilers and not the actual chapter? Nowhere is Donquixote mentioned next to Figarland and Nerona. The only Donquixote reference in the chapter is Garling killing Mjosgard. Thats it.

they effectively share the same rank, which gets revoked if they go against the WG's doctrine. Same was true for Lili, same would be true for a Figarland who will be rebellious. Mjosgard, who is a Donquixote, was literally executed for treating fishmen humanely.

The chapter ends highlighting the leader of the God Knights having the authority to kill Celestial Dragons....

And you are saying Shanks gets a free pass for the ridiculous shit he has done because he is of the Figarland family? It's bullshit.

No im saying we dont know shit so why assume his obvious bloodline connection is not taken into account?

I love how you create your own narrative and making it sound like this is super obvious and logical. Even the those among the Gorosei who wouldn't obey and lick Imu's ass would be executed, and you are talking about a great pirate who fucks over the WG by stealing the Nika fruit getting some free pass due to his bloodline.

And yet you are doing the same by stating Shanks only was there due to his Yonko influence, yet these people started a war with another Yonko and created the Seraphim to fight Yonko. But sure sure, Shanks gets made an exception for.....what reason?

How the fuck is thinking his CD lineage plays a role more ridoculous than the Gorosei making random exceptions to meet with Shanks if hes a traitor?

Your logic literally doesnt work.

 

[Reborn]

Ace was put on execution because he was son of Roger


Akainu was hell bent on killing Luffy because he is son of Dragon


And, shanks fan somehow thinks that navy in that same arc stopped war because of mere yonkou status of Shanks (status which hold no meaning as navy fought war against a yonkou) and not because of his CD status