Powers & Abilities Shiryu İnvisibility Problem

#1
We know that Shiryu ate invisibility devil fruit.

And also , we expect that shiryu will match zoro in BB vs SH arc.

But , we have a problem. İnvisibility can be easily detected by observation haki. That is confirmed . How . King's CoO realized Sanji also For Fujitora , everybody is invicible.

That is question why did shiryu choose this devil fruit among of thousand ones ?

How this devil fruit help zoro fight ?

Any thoughts ?
 
#5
We know that Shiryu ate invisibility devil fruit.

And also , we expect that shiryu will match zoro in BB vs SH arc.

But , we have a problem. İnvisibility can be easily detected by observation haki. That is confirmed . How . King's CoO realized Sanji also For Fujitora , everybody is invicible.

That is question why did shiryu choose this devil fruit among of thousand ones ?

How this devil fruit help zoro fight ?

Any thoughts ?
Luffy said in Katakuri fight CoO Haki can finish as well. Instead of using CoO Haki economically whoever fights Shiryu needs to use CoO Haki all the time. Which means at some point they will get tired and won't be able to use CoO Haki to detect Shiryu.

Also he can make his sword slashes invisible, he can make his surrounding invisible, Absalom was making his ship invisible. Shiryu obviously knows Invisibility can be detected by CoO, otherwise Absalom wouldn't get killed by BB pirates. But he still wanted that power for the reasons I mentioned above and perhaps for another reason that we will see.

Also the guards in the many places are not CoO users and before he can encounter with a CoO user it might be too late. If BB pirates went to Wano by making their ship invisible how Beast pirates will understand it? Obviously the guards are fodders and they just see and report to their officers. They can't report something they can't see, so if BB pirates with invisible ship would replace Big mom pirates at Wano, guards wouldn't see anything thus they couldn't report to others like Kaido or King. Its the same with Marijoa or Marine bases, if they want to infiltrate their bases with a invisible ship it would be too late before CoO users can detect their invisible ship. Marines couldn't even detect when WB used coated ships from underwater.
 
#6
It will be awakened and will not be sensed by CoO, no way Oda gives him the fruit just to be easily countered.
awakening of invisibility. seem interesting.
Maybe not. Doflamingo couldn't sense absolam save moriah from in front of his face. In fact he was that lost at what happened he thought it was moriahs fruit that saved him.
doff can not notice. but we know from certain example to be noticed.
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I don't think King saw Sanji invisible, he just thought about the possibility of something carrying Momonosuke, the proof is that he suddenly kicks the air aiming Momonosuke. It's definitely not common to see invisible dudes in OP.
King said that that is a just trick that means ı can see you . Also , think fujitora, everybody invincible
 
#9
Luffy said in Katakuri fight CoO Haki can finish as well. Instead of using CoO Haki economically whoever fights Shiryu needs to use CoO Haki all the time. Which means at some point they will get tired and won't be able to use CoO Haki to detect Shiryu.

Also he can make his sword slashes invisible, he can make his surrounding invisible, Absalom was making his ship invisible. Shiryu obviously knows Invisibility can be detected by CoO, otherwise Absalom wouldn't get killed by BB pirates. But he still wanted that power for the reasons I mentioned above and perhaps for another reason that we will see.

Also the guards in the many places are not CoO users and before he can encounter with a CoO user it might be too late. If BB pirates went to Wano by making their ship invisible how Beast pirates will understand it? Obviously the guards are fodders and they just see and report to their officers. They can't report something they can't see, so if BB pirates with invisible ship would replace Big mom pirates at Wano, guards wouldn't see anything thus they couldn't report to others like Kaido or King. Its the same with Marijoa or Marine bases, if they want to infiltrate their bases with a invisible ship it would be too late before CoO users can detect their invisible ship. Marines couldn't even detect when WB used coated ships from underwater.
this seems very sense. Very useful.
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No one has noticed an invisible opponent so far?
Fujitora , King
 
#17
Since most characters forget to use their Coo or that Coo is very often nerfed postskip I am afraid that it will still happen.

It reminds me of how stupid it is that Zoan users almost never use their animal senses in One Piece to hear or smell someone hidden or at distance. Logically invisibility shouldn't be too much of a problem to them, no more than to skilled Coo users.
 

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#18
Yes it's better this way. Oda could not have allowed invisibility to be so OP or else Shiryu could have in all likelihood come up with so many cheap shots to damage the Grandmaster.

I think invisibility can still make one more unpredictable, that could likely be the way not to render the ability fundamentally useless.
 
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