Questions & Mysteries Should Ryuma be compared to Joyboy

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
#23
Maybe

He was WSM of his era most likely, just like the ancient Joy Boy most likely was

If we don't consider Im eventually proving even stronger

I wonder if Joy Boy was truly more potent than Ryuma at his peak
 
#27
And yet they're willing to give up Oden's sword to get back Shusui.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt but maybe you're goofy enough to like Char because of his slight resemblance to Sanji
and enma made zoro stronger
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No
ryuma is a wano legend
joyboy has expanded past just 1 region. various references to that figure in multiple islands in the story .
Its not close
oda did a bad job at even hyping ryuma in wano and was busy wanking oden
 

Shisui

3 Palestine
#34
Kaido's own child wants to become someone who couldn't even beat him. Heart wants what it wants.
Everyone in Wano knows about Oden tho. Did you even read the other guys comment before replying to mine??:pepeke:
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Joyboy as an individual is still unknown. All we know is that he's famous for having someone else's power... his best friend can't even tell the difference now that someone else has it.
He is still known and two ppl spent a bulk of their lives obsessing about hi. Can't say the same about Ryuma. Kaido has been in Wano for over two decade and didn't name drop him once. Hell, Enma got more props from Kaido than Ryuma
 
#36
Everyone in Wano knows about Oden tho. Did you even read the other guys comment before replying to mine??:pepeke:
Of course they know Oden, they all watched him get killed by Kaido lol

I don't agree that Joyboy was a loser, but I will point out that his last testament seems to have been an apology

The country of Wano apologizes to Ryuma, for not keeping his shit safe and the resulting bad luck
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The previous owner of the sword murking Kid in your avatar. Which bet did you lose?
 
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#37
Yes. Ryuma was the past moon (also indicated by his surname).

Within the context of Wano, which is one of the most powerful countries in the world (second only to Elbaf probably) and also for historical reasons the most essential country to conquer for the WG:
  • Ryuma was known as the god of the blade
  • Worshiped like a deity despite knowing of Oden and his power. The loss of Shusui threw the country into a great depression. Both Scabbards and Hiyori are willing to trade Oden's blade for Shusui
  • Ryuma was the sole force to fight off the entire WG
  • Ryuma's existence alone cast fear into the outside world centuries later
And while Ryuma's hype was purely power based, Joyboy in the first place had the role of the liberator, who brings joy to the people of the world.
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
#39
Of course they know Oden, they all watch Which bet did you lose?
I have made a bet that kid and law will beat Big Mum in a specific chapter. When we were at some other place in wano. I just threw it in the room, high risc. Result: they beat her exactly one chapter later.
 
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