Powers & Abilities So...does most of Kaido’s crew not have Haki or something?
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The BMP are larger than 30k, you have her children who are the officers of the crew, unknown number of combatants, and tens of thousands of homie soldiers and non homie soldiers.
All of Big Mom's children are part of her crew, the only kids that are not part of her crew are Chiffon, Lola, and Praline.
All of Big Mom's children are part of her crew, the only kids that are not part of her crew are Chiffon, Lola, and Praline.
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P1 gets my benefit of the doubt, cause he already showed basic CoO and because Ulti also has CoA.
Drake is just Drake. He should have it.
But I'm honestly not so sure on BM and Sasaki having it. Keep in mind that Ulti and WsW only showed it in conjunction with their "signature" moves. Even though they have it, they weren't really portrayed as very haki affine either.
So when BM and Sasaki get a whole fight, while Sasaki does not even use it within his strongest attack "Magnumceratops", it doesn't do too well for them.
You could even argue that BM uses her iron knuckles as a substitute for the lack of CoA
But I like it. This way basic haki types aren't just standardized stats and more story relevant guys like Burgess, Collosseum Chinjao, Smoker and Vergo aren't just some guys out of like 20+ Veteran lvl guys.
Drake is just Drake. He should have it.
But I'm honestly not so sure on BM and Sasaki having it. Keep in mind that Ulti and WsW only showed it in conjunction with their "signature" moves. Even though they have it, they weren't really portrayed as very haki affine either.
So when BM and Sasaki get a whole fight, while Sasaki does not even use it within his strongest attack "Magnumceratops", it doesn't do too well for them.
You could even argue that BM uses her iron knuckles as a substitute for the lack of CoA
But I like it. This way basic haki types aren't just standardized stats and more story relevant guys like Burgess, Collosseum Chinjao, Smoker and Vergo aren't just some guys out of like 20+ Veteran lvl guys.
I reall don't know about this one.
Sasaki completely ripped apart the shogun anyway and his spinning blade split the Shogun's blade aswell.
I can see that fight going down in similiar fashion even if Sasaki would have used haki on his horns.
What's imo much more concerning is that if Sasaki and BM ever decided to track down Caribou, the latter could just roflstomp them, solely going by feats- which sounds ridiculous.
Sasaki completely ripped apart the shogun anyway and his spinning blade split the Shogun's blade aswell.
I can see that fight going down in similiar fashion even if Sasaki would have used haki on his horns.
What's imo much more concerning is that if Sasaki and BM ever decided to track down Caribou, the latter could just roflstomp them, solely going by feats- which sounds ridiculous.
I’m certain all the Tobi Roppo will be confirmed to be Haki users in the Vivre cards. Relatively speaking pekoms is a scrub in Linlin’s crew & he’s several times stronger than Caribou and the Tobi Roppo are basically Oven, Daifuku, Perorin etc. equivalents in the beast Pirates (I.e. > Pekoms) and neither of those 3 have shown Haki either but Oven and Daifuku were confirmed to be Haki users in the Vivre Card ^^.
That aside, with regards to Sasaki, I thought his attack power & durability were impressive (he was able to rip general Franky apart & tank a general canon) + he was pretty creative with his DF. Sure his durability isn’t Ulti level of toughness but the main reason for this was coz Oda coveniently made his belly his weak point (something neither Ulti or P1 have so it’s 100% a nerf imo). What I was referring to Haki wise tho was him not using Haki to protect his so called weak point even though he will no doubt have it in his Vivre card imo.
Take away Sasaki’s weak point & Franky would’ve lost that fight without an AP PU but then again if Oda wrote it that way then it’d result in a plot hole as it’d imply Franky’s attack > Maser Canon
That aside, with regards to Sasaki, I thought his attack power & durability were impressive (he was able to rip general Franky apart & tank a general canon) + he was pretty creative with his DF. Sure his durability isn’t Ulti level of toughness but the main reason for this was coz Oda coveniently made his belly his weak point (something neither Ulti or P1 have so it’s 100% a nerf imo). What I was referring to Haki wise tho was him not using Haki to protect his so called weak point even though he will no doubt have it in his Vivre card imo.
Take away Sasaki’s weak point & Franky would’ve lost that fight without an AP PU but then again if Oda wrote it that way then it’d result in a plot hole as it’d imply Franky’s attack > Maser Canon
I think the reason why we haven't seen Sasaki and BM use haki is because we were seeing the fight from a non-haki user POV.
Jinbe can use haki so he can see when WW uses haki, but Robin and Franky can not. We saw black coating on Ulti when she fought Luffy but not when she fought Nami and Usopp.
Are there any instances where black coating was shown against a non haki combatant?
Jinbe can use haki so he can see when WW uses haki, but Robin and Franky can not. We saw black coating on Ulti when she fought Luffy but not when she fought Nami and Usopp.
Are there any instances where black coating was shown against a non haki combatant?
Page One likely showed at least CoO when he also sensed Luffy's haki like Ulti since both transformed while the randoms though the clash was done.
Sasaki showed nothing at all.
When Black Maria used her knucle on Sanji I guessed she just wanted to keep torturing him for longer, but she didn't use haki against Robin either so I wouldn't be surprise if she doesn't have haki.
Sasaki showed nothing at all.
When Black Maria used her knucle on Sanji I guessed she just wanted to keep torturing him for longer, but she didn't use haki against Robin either so I wouldn't be surprise if she doesn't have haki.
