General & Others So since Whitebeard was the worlds strongest MAN, weren't Big Mom and Kaido not considered?
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Yeah, you mean this type of rumor?
Even in one piece world characters are not sure whether Mihawk is the WSS or not lol.
In king's flashback he refers to Kaido as the strongest, and people will dismiss that too (just like with many others), but Baggy's words are considered as absolute facts.
Even in one piece world characters are not sure whether Mihawk is the WSS or not lol.
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context also says its a belief of skull
in the same quote another character cant make out what to think of shanks .
its an opinion not a fact . the title tags however is undeniably a fact not from the viewpoint of one character . if you have read enough of these novels some marines had contrasting viewpoints on the wss title as well.
wb was the strongest pirate touted as the man on par with roger in strength and when roger passed it was crowned his era by shiki another one of roger's rivals mind you.
a title killer referred to kaido as only in current time.
in the same quote another character cant make out what to think of shanks .
its an opinion not a fact . the title tags however is undeniably a fact not from the viewpoint of one character . if you have read enough of these novels some marines had contrasting viewpoints on the wss title as well.
wb was the strongest pirate touted as the man on par with roger in strength and when roger passed it was crowned his era by shiki another one of roger's rivals mind you.
a title killer referred to kaido as only in current time.
In king's flashback he refers to Kaido as the strongest, and people will dismiss that too (just like with many others), but Baggy's words are considered as absolute facts.
Yeah, you mean this type of rumor?
Even in one piece world characters are not sure whether Mihawk is the WSS or not lol.
In king's flashback he refers to Kaido as the strongest, and people will dismiss that too (just like with many others), but Baggy's words are considered as absolute facts.
Even in one piece world characters are not sure whether Mihawk is the WSS or not lol.
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In king's flashback he refers to Kaido as the strongest, and people will dismiss that too (just like with many others), but Baggy's words are considered as absolute facts.
How does Marines viewing whoever they witness as they strongest swordsman changed that?
Yeah, you mean this type of rumor?
Even in one piece world characters are not sure whether Mihawk is the WSS or not lol.
In king's flashback he refers to Kaido as the strongest, and people will dismiss that too (just like with many others), but Baggy's words are considered as absolute facts.
Even in one piece world characters are not sure whether Mihawk is the WSS or not lol.
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In king's flashback he refers to Kaido as the strongest, and people will dismiss that too (just like with many others), but Baggy's words are considered as absolute facts.
Yes, it specifically says he's the strongest man, so Big Mom is not included. Oda also didn't reveal whether Kaidou earned the "strongest" title after Shirohige's death or if he had it all along.
What I'm trying to say is that Oda is good at planning and preserving ambiguity.
I didn't read the Ace Novels. I might. Is it canon? Is Kaidou referred to as the Strongest Creature in the novels?
What I'm trying to say is that Oda is good at planning and preserving ambiguity.
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I didn't read the Ace Novels. I might. Is it canon? Is Kaidou referred to as the Strongest Creature in the novels?
WB and Kaido both have their own set of hype. Some prove WB>Kaido, others prove Kaido>WB. I consider them as 1A and 1B, pick anyone you want and you wont be wrong. However, we are talking about old WB here, prime WB should be above Kaido with a small gap.
I dont know why Big Mom didnt even get the world's strongest female title because we know that a similar title exists. Catarina Devon was called the most dangerous female pirate in the history of Impel Down.
I dont know why Big Mom didnt even get the world's strongest female title because we know that a similar title exists. Catarina Devon was called the most dangerous female pirate in the history of Impel Down.
IDK. Whitebeard has been referred to both as the "World's Strongest Man" and also as the "World's Strongest Pirate"
Killer also referred to Kaido as the "World's Strongest Pirate" but we generally hear that Kaido is the "World's Strongest Creature"
I think Oda likes to be purposely ambiguous with these titles because he doesn't like power-scaling. And to be honest it makes sense considering in real life it is often difficult to measure how "good" people are at certain things, even in sports we have stats for players and there are still endless debates about who is better/the best.
There is barely any tangible way to determine how "strong" someone is in One Piece. Even the word "strong" is ambiguous.
But yes I would consider BM and Kaido part of the WSM grouping because WB has also been called the WSP. So while he was healthy and alive Whitebeard was #1 in the verse along with Roger.
Killer also referred to Kaido as the "World's Strongest Pirate" but we generally hear that Kaido is the "World's Strongest Creature"
I think Oda likes to be purposely ambiguous with these titles because he doesn't like power-scaling. And to be honest it makes sense considering in real life it is often difficult to measure how "good" people are at certain things, even in sports we have stats for players and there are still endless debates about who is better/the best.
There is barely any tangible way to determine how "strong" someone is in One Piece. Even the word "strong" is ambiguous.
But yes I would consider BM and Kaido part of the WSM grouping because WB has also been called the WSP. So while he was healthy and alive Whitebeard was #1 in the verse along with Roger.