Episode Discussion So wtf is wrong with Toei and the people approving this?

[MarineHQ]

Tbf Oda is trash at drawing sword fights. His best work is still Zoro vs Ryuuma and even that was mediocre compared to other manga

That's why he lets the anime take over and extend his fights.

 

[NikaInParis]

That's why he lets the anime take over and extend his fights.

They extend all others as well. And not in a good way most of the time.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

The Wano staff have completely missed what made Zoro fights so legendary. Their bright colors and fluid animation looks pretty, but is still behind the good old days.

Nice to see there's another who think pre ts animation was better

 

[BleakAsh]

Those weren't random frames, it was an entire sequence of King looking like a caricature. It's essentially like the Naruto filler episode of Tendo vs Kyuubi. People rightfully called this shit out and made fun of it.

You present a dichotomy, not an analogy.

 

[yorosenpai]

Like honestly. This absurdly oversaturated animation with an overload of special effects and color, coupled with the caricatural appearance of the characters, stretched out through filler content, to display very simple and minimalistic manga scenes. I'm not watching the anime for that specific reason, but wonder

1) wtf is Toei doing and
2) why tf do people enjoy that bullcrap?

I agree that some frames are over the top, still this trend was for whole cake island too, Oda want this in the anime, Toei is following what Oda want.

Still the fluidity of the fight was super fine, loved every clash, I hope they will improve a bit the haki effect but overhall was the best episode in OP

 

[Nikuzi]

The Wano staff have completely missed what made Zoro fights so legendary. Their bright colors and fluid animation looks pretty, but is still behind the good old days.

Every time someone posts this shit as something that looks good I realize that most people here don't have animation literacy. This is fucking SHIT animation lmfao. The first and last gifs are like 4 fucking frames repeated and the middle one isn't anything at all. What is this man come on

 

[Cinera]

Those weren't random frames, it was an entire sequence of King looking like a caricature. It's essentially like the Naruto filler episode of Tendo vs Kyuubi. People rightfully called this shit out and made fun of it.

FWIW, I really loved that filler episode of the fight.

 

[MarineHQ]

Every time someone posts this shit as something that looks good I realize that most people here don't have animation literacy. This is fucking SHIT animation lmfao. The first and second gifs are like 4 fucking frames repeated and the middle one isn't anything at all. What is this man come on

I never said the animation was better. We all know that the current animation is objectively superior, doesn't mean it fits the style of OP any better.

 

[Nikuzi]

I never said the animation was better. We all know that the current animation is objectively superior, doesn't mean it fits the style of OP any better.

But the scale since then has increased. None of Zoro's fights are like that anymore. What we got in the latest episode is closer to the current manga than those old scenes are.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Every time someone posts this shit as something that looks good I realize that most people here don't have animation literacy. This is fucking SHIT animation lmfao. The first and last gifs are like 4 fucking frames repeated and the middle one isn't anything at all. What is this man come on

I think they’re talking about art style not animation.

Cause although Zoro vs Kings animation is objectively better, it really doesn’t fit the vibe of one piece. It honestly felt more like a high budget DBZ style fight (not that that’s a bad thing at all)

And even the manga fight didn’t match the kind of stuff we saw in Zoro vs king anime fight.

 

[MarineHQ]

But the scale since then has increased. None of Zoro's fights are like that anymore. What we got in the latest episode is closer to the current manga than those old scenes are.

They exaggerated it big time. The Zoro vs King fight in the manga wasn't even close to the scale the anime portrayed it to be

King was portrayed like a final villain in an anime game.

 

[kurwa]

toddler spectacle of lights for a toddler character fanbase

idk, seems kinda staple thing for Zoro fights. Toei knows that Zorofans are attracted to bright lights. I think Toei has enough of data that shows them which fanbases react to bright, aura colors.

There is a reason why underage fan fav characters like Zoro, Kaido and Luffy have colors flashing most of the time in their fights
and why characters with a more mature fanbase like Admirals, Sanji, Law don't have auras/colors.

1 needs constant stimulation or they get bored and think attacks are weak
others look at the story, choreography, fluidity

 

[Nikuzi]

I think they’re talking about art style not animation.

Cause although Zoro vs Kings animation is objectively better, it really doesn’t fit the vibe of one piece. It honestly felt more like a high budget DBZ style fight (not that that’s a bad thing at all)

And even the manga fight didn’t match the kind of stuff we saw in Zoro vs king anime fight.

They exaggerated it big time. The Zoro vs King fight in the manga wasn't even close to the scale the anime portrayed it to be

King was portrayed like a final villain in an anime game.

They 100% did exaggerate it in comparison to the manga, but when people say that the newer episodes don't look like One Piece i posit that they are closer to the current form of one piece than the older stuff is. The older stuff doesn't look like One Piece anymore either but people say its better than the new animation, its just nostalgia imo

 

[Peroroncino]

toddler spectacle of lights for a toddler character fanbase

idk, seems kinda staple thing for Zoro fights. Toei knows that Zorofans are attracted to bright lights. I think Toei has enough of data that shows them which fanbases react to bright, aura colors.

There is a reason why underage fan fav characters like Zoro, Kaido and Luffy have colors flashing most of the time in their fights
and why characters with a more mature fanbase like Admirals, Sanji, Law don't have auras/colors.

1 needs constant stimulation or they get bored and think attacks are weak
others look at the story, choreography, fluidity

''my fanbase is mature bro we don't like auras they put them in zoro fights cause they like'em''
anime:

 

[kurwa]

''my fanbase is mature bro we don't like auras they put them in zoro fights cause they like'em''
anime:

so your argument is a gag scene where Drake and Hawkins are looking at their comic book hero and getting blinded by fanboyism?

 

[Peroroncino]

so your argument is a gag scene where Drake and Hawkins are looking at their comic book hero?

oh now he changed and it's about the type of scene and not the animation of said scene

 

[kurwa]

oh now he changed and it's about the type of scene and not the animation of said scene

Wait, does Sanji constantly glow and produce auras in the anime or was this just 1 time thing?

Is this a fighting screenshot or a screenshot of a funny scene?

 

[Peroroncino]

it's always the sanji fans that like to talk about how mature they are as they stan a creep

 

[WorstMan]

All I will say is, the anime did it better even if it took some creative liberties to interpret the fight completely different to the manga panels. The animation throughout is fantastic in this episode, nitpicking with a few still-frames is weak sauce.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

They 100% did exaggerate it in comparison to the manga, but when people say that the newer episodes don't look like One Piece i posit that they are closer to the current form of one piece than the older stuff is. The older stuff doesn't look like One Piece anymore either but people say its better than the new animation, its just nostalgia imo

They’re not close to current one piece. Look at 1061 and 1062. Which of these two felt more like a one piece episode? One piece has always been a grounded anime.